At least, if Roe is overturned, the pro-life states enacting laws will not be challenged and held unconstitutional . There will be states that will outlaw abortion. Then again there will be states that will be crazy "abortion" destinations. We will see abortion mills collecting  just over the borders of the pro-life states,  kind of like liquor stores and firework stands.

That's the problem.  States that have passed laws restricting abortion basically out of existence HAVE already been upheld without this ruling.  I'm sorry, but this is a huge setback for Pro Life, not a help.

Excerpt from an analyst newsletter:

Progressive and Far Left groups are encouraging protests and political violence in response to the leaked Supreme Court ruling set to overturn Roe v Wade. Yesterday afternoon, Chief Justice John Roberts confirmed the leaked docuмent was authentic and called for an investigation.

Meanwhile, efforts online ranged from organizing protests to calling for political violence. Some of the more extreme so-called “anti-fascist” accounts encouraged setting fires to churches, which were characterized as meeting places of conservatives, nationalists, and fascists.

There were several instances of violence overnight as Far Left groups took to the streets in Los Angeles. Protests have been largely peaceful, although unrest is likely to worsen heading into the weekend and again when the Supreme Court officially announces the ruling.

An important note: revolutionary anarchist social media accounts yesterday began re-circulating best practices for organizing and conducting direct action demonstrations, similar to activities during the George Floyd riots of 2020. …

Far Left Activity Rollup & Outlook

CENTRAL

FUTURE

St. Paul, Minnesota

Size: TBD

Activity: Far Left Activist organizations plan a rally and protest for “ voting rights, campaign finance, and other reforms that offer proven, achievable and powerful solutions to build the multiracial and representative democracy that lives up to the promises of our Constitution. “

Location: 75 Rev Dr Martin Luther King Jr Boulevard. Rapist Sadist Adulterer Plagiarist Communist Boulevard, St Paul, MN 55155

Time: 1400 CST; Wednesday, 04 MAY

EAST

FUTURE

Columbia, South Carolina

Size: TBD

Activity: Following the SCOTUS ruling leak regarding the possible reversal of Roe v Wade, far left activists plan a protest for Roe v Wade at the South Carolina state house. The protest is coordinated by the Socialists of Carolinas.

Location: 1100 Gervais St, Columbia, SC 29208

Time: 1800 EST; Wednesday, 04 MAY

Jersey City, New Jersey

Size: TBD

Activity: New Jersey Democrat Socialists of America coordinate a protest in support of abortion after the leaked SCOTUS ruling on Roe v Wade. Protestors are demanding abortion “on demand and without apology,” a far cry from the previous requirement of “safe, legal, and rare.”

Location: 210 Hudson St New Jersey NJ 07302

Time: 1800 EST; Wednesday, 04 MAY

Staten Island, New York

Size: TBD

Activity: Elected Democrat officials and candidates in the state of New York organize a rally to garner support to codify Roe v Wade into federal law. Elected officials and candidates hope to garner political capital during the rally for support of abortion.

Location: 1911 Richmond Ave Staten Island NY 10314

Time: 1730 EST; Wednesday, 04 MAY

I agree with Ladislaus on all the above.  I also read a comment this morning about Alito's draft that made me think--the upshot of the article was this: the Feds would be able to do anything to preserve the life of the unborn baby at any stage; to do anything.  This would give them the ability to ban home-births--because of the potential risk to the baby.  It could possibly be made illegal to have more than a certain number of children, or having children past a certain age because of the increased risk of fetal death, etc.  

I just thought it was an interesting viewpoint.  Of course these people are going to want to control ALL aspects of our lives! 

Yes, the states are kindof like independent nations ... except for the fact that they formed a union based on a Constitution that binds them all, and that Constitution protects the Right to Life (among other things), that right being the first inalienable right granted by God and not by the Constitution itself.

Alito's claim that there's no mention of abortion (one way or the other) in the Constitution is incredibly dangerous, in that it implies that abortion doesn't fall under the category of Right to Life, and that therefore an unborn child is not Life under the Constitution.  This opens the door to various states legislating what "life" is, to the point that the next steps are to claim that people who are in "vegetative state" are not "life" (like Terri Schiavo) or that people who are mentally retarded to the point of not being functional are not "life".  If the states are left to determine what life means, then the Satanic blue states are just a hair's breadth away from euthanasia and eugenic murder.

So, between the fact that Alito claims there's not inherent protection for unborn children in the Constitution (false) and the fact that he asserts that the federal union has no role in regulating abortion (thus precluding federal laws being able to trump state laws permitting abortion), this is an incredibly harmful ruling that does more damage long term to Pro Life than if it hadn't been made and if the current progress of states gradually making abortion (effectively) illegal had been allowed to continue as is.

This is to say nothing of the fact that in the practical order this is going to energize the Satanic Left to the point that they'll expand abortion in the Blue States, and the moderate states that may have been "thinking about" passing anti-abortion legislation are gong to be cowed and intimidated by the Left.  If any "on the fence" politician is thinking about voting for it, they'll be attacked politically, economically, and perhaps even physically ... so that they'll be much less inclined to come off the fence on the right side.

This is very clear to me, and I don't understand why others don't see it ... except due to the emotional baggage attached to "Roe" over the years that's causing an emotional celebration.  Please engage intellect before allowing yourself to be carried away with emotion.

Unfortunately, the definition of when life begins ( the right to life in the constitution) doesn't seem to matter anymore. They want the right to kill life, period. They don't care about conception, heartbeats, viability or any parameters. If they are killing one month old infants legally in Colorado, a life provision isn't going to matter. They don't care when life begins- they just want the legal right to kill. We have passed that Rubicon.

It's got to be banned or it isn't by the states. That is where this is. I 'm actually afraid that passing a human life amendment might have little effect now.

Yes, the prospect of a federal law were slim anyway.  Over time, perhaps, if enough states banned it (and they were already doing so), perhaps enough of them could pressure toward a federal law.  At least the federal laws, however, could restrict abortion somehow ... like no partial birth, putting all kinds of regulatory pressure on abortion clinics, no infanticide, etc.  But this ruling, if the wording stands, would allow the states to contest any restrictions on abortion, well, because Alito says this belongs with the states and their representative.  So I fear that the Blue State laws are going to get worse.  And now that the Left has been energized, the moderate states will be pressured in all kinds of ways not to regulate abortion.

As I said, the only way this problem will go away is when the Church is restored through the Immaculate Heart of Mary.  Until then, it's about fighting individual battles.

Praise God Wisconsin is hostile to baby murder. Now we just need to eject this worthless lib governor 

It's true "the Constitution makes no mention of abortion" (p. 1 of the draft).

No, it's not.  Constitution mentions the right to life.  Issue is that the court needs to interpret life as extending to the pre-born.  Only way in which the Constution doesn't preclude abortion is if you exclude pre-born infants from life; otherwise, the states would have no authority to legislate away life.

Alito's wording is an absolutely disaster.  It implicitly states that pre-born human life is something other than the "life" protected by the Constitution.

Yes, the states are kindof like independent nations ... except for the fact that they formed a union based on a Constitution that binds them all, and that Constitution protects the Right to Life (among other things), that right being the first inalienable right granted by God and not by the Constitution itself.

Alito's claim that there's no mention of abortion (one way or the other) in the Constitution is incredibly dangerous, in that it implies that abortion doesn't fall under the category of Right to Life, and that therefore an unborn child is not Life under the Constitution.  This opens the door to various states legislating what "life" is, to the point that the next steps are to claim that people who are in "vegetative state" are not "life" (like Terri Schiavo) or that people who are mentally retarded to the point of not being functional are not "life".  If the states are left to determine what life means, then the Satanic blue states are just a hair's breadth away from euthanasia and eugenic murder.

So, between the fact that Alito claims there's not inherent protection for unborn children in the Constitution (false) and the fact that he asserts that the federal union has no role in regulating abortion (thus precluding federal laws being able to trump state laws permitting abortion), this is an incredibly harmful ruling that does more damage long term to Pro Life than if it hadn't been made and if the current progress of states gradually making abortion (effectively) illegal had been allowed to continue as is.

All of these dangerous implications that Alito makes are ALREADY today a reality.  There's no new evils from this ruling.  They already exist today.

a) Abortion rights ignore the constitutional right to life.  This has been ignored for the last 50 years.
b) "no mention of abortion in constitution" = RoeVwade wasn't approved based on this, so this is nothing new.
c) An unborn child hasn't been considered life, ever.  Especially not for the last 50 years.
d) Terri S and the battle against euthanasia has been going on for a while now; nothing new.

No states have been abortion effectively illegal.  Have they put restrictions on it?  Absolutely.  And that will not be impeded by this ruling.

I think many of you have PTSD and think that nothing good can happen in the world.  And/or you think that the elites have so much control that everything that happens is a "trick" to beat the good guys.  This is true to some extent, but not to the extent that your fear is projecting.  We are catholics, not defeatists!  God is still in control; prayers can move mountains.