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Offline SkidRowCatholic

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+Sanborn on FE, Helocentrism, and Trump
« on: December 13, 2025, 09:23:32 PM »
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  • The OP title questions start at 1:03:00


    ::) to his stance on FE.
    :facepalm: to his stance on Heliocentrism.
    :mad: to his stance on voting for Trump.

    Offline gladius_veritatis

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    Re: +Sanborn on FE, Helocentrism, and Trump
    « Reply #1 on: Yesterday at 10:20:15 AM »
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  • Sad to see, although not surprising.  His take on the Kill-Shots (among other things) demonstrated for all who care to see, which is not as many as he might like to think, that he is woefully uninformed about a great many important things.

    His take on Trumpenstein was particularly pathetic.  No mention of DJT's insane support of Iz-Ra-Hell, the ongoing Ritual Sacrifice in Gaza, etc., but clearly he was concerned about the fact that he had to pay a $700 tariff on a chalice from Europe.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."


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    Re: +Sanborn on FE, Helocentrism, and Trump
    « Reply #2 on: Yesterday at 10:41:01 AM »
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  • His comments upon the Miracle of the Sun at Fatima in 1917 are not exactly reassuring, either.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."

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    Re: +Sanborn on FE, Helocentrism, and Trump
    « Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 01:37:40 PM »
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  • I have sensed among many SVs an attitude simlar to neo-SSPX where they don't want to say things that might make them see "kooky".

    Does anyone know any of them who would ever touch the Jєωιѕн problem with a 100-foot pole?

    I've never heard an SV discussing the question.  In fact, Bishop Williamson stood mostly alone on that, as far as I know.

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    Re: +Sanborn on FE, Helocentrism, and Trump
    « Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 01:39:41 PM »
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  • Does anyone know any of them who would ever touch the Jєωιѕн problem with a 100-foot pole?
    Well, we know it isn't +Sanborn based on his answers to that question above.


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    Re: +Sanborn on FE, Helocentrism, and Trump
    « Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 01:57:50 PM »
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  • Sad to see, although not surprising.  His take on the Kill-Shots (among other things) demonstrated for all who care to see, which is not as many as he might like to think, that he is woefully uninformed about a great many important things.

    His take on Trumpenstein was particularly pathetic.  No mention of DJT's insane support of Iz-Ra-Hell, the ongoing Ritual Sacrifice in Gaza, etc., but clearly he was concerned about the fact that he had to pay a $700 tariff on a chalice from Europe.

    So, the Trump thing was pathetic.  During the 2024 election cycle, he was stronger on the question, correctly denouncing Trump as "pro abotion", and saying, at least, that a Catholic would not be obliged to vote for him ... but, yeah, here he totally gloss over the evils that Trump has been behind.

    While I can't disagree with him that the "young earth" question could be debated among Catholics (per PBC under St. Pius X), that question really needs to then be qualified by insisting that you must hold that human beings have only been around for about 6,000 years.  But regard to heliocentrism, he largely derided the arguments used by St. Robert Bellarmine to condemn Galileo ... but then just refused to talk about the shape of the earth and the firmament, saying those issues don't matter.

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    Re: +Sanborn on FE, Helocentrism, and Trump
    « Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 02:03:26 PM »
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  • His take on Trumpenstein was particularly pathetic.  No mention of DJT's insane support of Iz-Ra-Hell, the ongoing Ritual Sacrifice in Gaza, etc., but clearly he was concerned about the fact that he had to pay a $700 tariff on a chalice from Europe.

    Yeah, that wasn't a good look.  I recognize that this was a bit of a digresson onto the tariffs, saying Trump's wrong about those, but it leaves a very poor perception, that and when he complained about the cost of groceries ... as if he has to actually pay for them himself.  But no mention of the horrific genocide, and all the other wickedness perpetrated by the Jews and supported / enabled by Trump.  I can't help think that it's reminiscent of Fr. Cekada's horribly scandalous statement on Terri Schiavo, where he was bitching about how much it would cost him to keep Terri alive ... undoubtedly as he's downing one of their typicaly $100 bottles of wine.

    Absolutely no mention of the moral depravities of Trump, the Epstein stuff, the Jews, Gaza.

    When he does gloss over the Jєωιѕн problem, he says that the Jews obtained disproportionate representation in and influence over various institutions due to their drive and ambition ... as if this was to their credit, not that this happened due to their gross immorality, where they accuмulated wealth through usury and therefore had a tactical advantage over Catholics, who considered it immoral ... and because the Jews lie, cheat, steal, and murder with reckless abandon.

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    Re: +Sanborn on FE, Helocentrism, and Trump
    « Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 02:03:49 PM »
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  • Father Sanborn

    So you're back with yoru slanderous nosense.  Bishop Sanborn.

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    « Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 02:05:34 PM »
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  • I also think it's not a very good look for him to have adopted the old "pay for questions" format made popular by Taylor Marshall and other grifters.  Just not a good look.

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    Re: +Sanborn on FE, Helocentrism, and Trump
    « Reply #11 on: Yesterday at 02:28:41 PM »
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  • I am not bashing Bp. Sanborn or any clergyman in particular, but "Trads" are naive when they think that their priests and bishops are very wise, knowledgeable and responsible like the clergy of old.

    Most of them know only the bare mininum to administer the sacraments and preach sermons.

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    Re: +Sanborn on FE, Helocentrism, and Trump
    « Reply #12 on: Yesterday at 02:31:01 PM »
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  • I am not bashing Bp. Sanborn or any clergyman in particular, but "Trads" are naive when they think that their priests and bishops are very wise, knowledgeable and responsible like the clergy of old.

    Most of them know only the bare mininum to administer the sacraments and preach sermons.
    Yes. Our condition in that regard is quite pathetic. They are often, "blind leaders leading the blind", but we often assume goodwill nonetheless...

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    Re: +Sanborn on FE, Helocentrism, and Trump
    « Reply #13 on: Yesterday at 05:26:23 PM »
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  • I am not bashing Bp. Sanborn or any clergyman in particular, but "Trads" are naive when they think that their priests and bishops are very wise, knowledgeable and responsible like the clergy of old.

    Most of them know only the bare mininum to administer the sacraments and preach sermons.

    They needs data to apply Catholic teaching. The data is secular and not their business most often.

    Where do you get that "most" of them only know the bare minimum? Did you take a poll?

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    Re: +Sanborn on FE, Helocentrism, and Trump
    « Reply #14 on: Yesterday at 06:28:09 PM »
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  • They needs data to apply Catholic teaching. The data is secular and not their business most often.

    Where do you get that "most" of them only know the bare minimum? Did you take a poll?

    I speak from experience. If your experience with them has been different, good for you, because you will have an easier time.