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Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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Re: Saint Charlie?
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2025, 07:19:11 AM »
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  • We don’t need any sculpture of anyone.  

    I see Masonic artwork at the Vatican and even local cathedrals. 
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    Re: Saint Charlie?
    « Reply #16 on: October 05, 2025, 10:22:16 AM »
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  • You are fooled by a 'nice' artwork. It's an 'abomination' because Kirk is LOST as he died outside the Church.
    Is nearly everyone on this group (apart from Boru and myself ) a believer in the Feenyite heresy?

    Non Catholics can get to Purgatory, though often they’ll have fewer people to pray for them.

    Already in the second century St Justin spoke of the latter: “Those who acted in accordance with what is universally, naturally and eternally good were pleasing to God and will be saved by Christ … just like the righteous who preceded them” (Dialogue with Tryphon, 45).
    This teaching was stated officially by the Holy See in answer to the errors of Fr Leonard Feeney, S.J., who had been professor of theology at Boston College and chaplain of the St Benedict Center at Harvard from 1945 on. Fr Feeney taught literally that outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation and only Catholics can go to heaven.
    To clarify the Church’s teaching, the Holy Office, with the approval of Pope Pius XII, sent a letter to the Archbishop of Boston, Cardinal Richard Cushing, on 8 August 1949. It stated, among other things, that in order for someone to be saved, “it is not always required that he be incorporated into the Church actually as a member, but it is necessary that at least he be united to her by desire and longing. However, this desire need not always be explicit, as it is in catechumens; but when a person is involved in invincible ignorance God accepts also an implicit desire, so called because it is included in that good disposition of soul whereby a person wishes his will to be conformed to the will of God”.


    Fine if you don’t like the sculpture but Kirk was on his way to converting to be Catholic by all accounts. It’s possible he’s in Purgatory and it could be said he died for the Christian faith.


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    Re: Saint Charlie?
    « Reply #17 on: October 05, 2025, 12:06:03 PM »
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  • Heresy. 

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    Re: Saint Charlie?
    « Reply #18 on: October 05, 2025, 12:33:50 PM »
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  • Those of us who noticed were (unfortunately) proven right. It's why I called his memorial a "state funeral" when talking about it with people. 

    It must be said, but Charlie Kirk has become Republican George Floyd. Immediately canonized with a memorial worthy of princes and kings on one side and demonized on the other.
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    Re: Saint Charlie?
    « Reply #19 on: October 05, 2025, 07:04:24 PM »
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  • New Agers to bring on the One world religion, are they not? On yeah they are!!

    Now I still wonder, is he buried, or cremated?


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    Re: Saint Charlie?
    « Reply #20 on: October 05, 2025, 09:21:39 PM »
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  • He seemed to be a catechumen, and catechumens can be martyrs (e.g., St. Emerentiana).
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    Re: Saint Charlie?
    « Reply #21 on: October 05, 2025, 10:40:39 PM »
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  • He seemed to be a catechumen, and catechumens can be martyrs (e.g., St. Emerentiana).
    He was a blasphemer and St emerentiana has already been debunked, her so called bob was added in the martyrology around 1000ad.

    Also Florence specifically states that shedding your blood for Christ does not save you unless you are a member of the Church. Pius 12th taught that only those baptised and profess the true faith are members of the Church.

    Baptism of blood is an emotional falsehood contrary to authoritative Catholic doctrine.

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    Re: Saint Charlie?
    « Reply #22 on: October 05, 2025, 10:41:43 PM »
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  • Is nearly everyone on this group (apart from Boru and myself ) a believer in the Feenyite heresy?

    Non Catholics can get to Purgatory, though often they’ll have fewer people to pray for them.

    Already in the second century St Justin spoke of the latter: “Those who acted in accordance with what is universally, naturally and eternally good were pleasing to God and will be saved by Christ … just like the righteous who preceded them” (Dialogue with Tryphon, 45).
    This teaching was stated officially by the Holy See in answer to the errors of Fr Leonard Feeney, S.J., who had been professor of theology at Boston College and chaplain of the St Benedict Center at Harvard from 1945 on. Fr Feeney taught literally that outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation and only Catholics can go to heaven.
    To clarify the Church’s teaching, the Holy Office, with the approval of Pope Pius XII, sent a letter to the Archbishop of Boston, Cardinal Richard Cushing, on 8 August 1949. It stated, among other things, that in order for someone to be saved, “it is not always required that he be incorporated into the Church actually as a member, but it is necessary that at least he be united to her by desire and longing. However, this desire need not always be explicit, as it is in catechumens; but when a person is involved in invincible ignorance God accepts also an implicit desire, so called because it is included in that good disposition of soul whereby a person wishes his will to be conformed to the will of God”.


    Fine if you don’t like the sculpture but Kirk was on his way to converting to be Catholic by all accounts. It’s possible he’s in Purgatory and it could be said he died for the Christian faith.
    Florence specifically states that shedding your blood for Christ does not save you unless you are a member of the Church. Pius 12th taught that only those baptised and profess the true faith are members of the Church.
    Baptism of blood is an emotional falsehood contrary to authoritative Catholic doctrin
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    Re: Saint Charlie?
    « Reply #23 on: October 05, 2025, 10:42:25 PM »
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  • Fine if you don’t like the sculpture but Kirk was on his way to converting to be Catholic by all accounts. It’s possible he’s in Purgatory and it could be said he died for the Christian faith.
    You are definitely Boru (Salza).

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    Re: Saint Charlie?
    « Reply #24 on: October 05, 2025, 11:34:42 PM »
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  • Could Charlie Kirk had been a free mason
    N Fuentis is saying Kirk was " hanging around Bohemian Grove" :popcorn:
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    Re: Saint Charlie?
    « Reply #25 on: October 05, 2025, 11:42:38 PM »
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  • You are fooled by a 'nice' artwork. It's an 'abomination' because Kirk is LOST as he died outside the Church.
    Could someone pls refer us to a pic of Kirk( or anyone else) bleeding? or w/ blood on them? :popcorn::confused: or on any non- living matter. ? 
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'


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    Re: Saint Charlie?
    « Reply #26 on: October 06, 2025, 07:20:09 PM »
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  • He was a blasphemer
    Up to the moment of his death?
    St emerentiana has already been debunked, her so called bob was added in the martyrology around 1000ad.
    Debunked? You mean she wasn't a catechumen when she was martyred?
    Also Florence specifically states that shedding your blood for Christ does not save you unless you are a member of the Church.
    So you think that means catechumens cannot be martyrs because they are not yet actual members?
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    Re: Saint Charlie?
    « Reply #27 on: October 06, 2025, 08:28:41 PM »
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  • charlie was bringing in the one world religion, which is going into the schools under the name Turning point USA.  

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    Re: Saint Charlie?
    « Reply #28 on: October 07, 2025, 01:09:20 AM »
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  • Up to the moment of his death?Debunked? You mean she wasn't a catechumen when she was martyred?So you think that means catechumens cannot be martyrs because they are not yet actual members?
    We have no external evidence that suggests he repented.

    The Saint was actually baptised with water as canonization is infallible and bob was refuted by Florence.

    Unbaptised catechumans cannot be martyrs as per Florence 

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    Re: Saint Charlie?
    « Reply #29 on: October 07, 2025, 01:10:11 AM »
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  • Up to the moment of his death?Debunked? You mean she wasn't a catechumen when she was martyred?So you think that means catechumens cannot be martyrs because they are not yet actual members?
    Debunked as in the term she was baptised by her blood was an addition. There is no reason to assume she wasn't already baptised. There are plenty of saints who were miraculous baptised before death.