In conclusion one cannot be for both. One must either be a traditionalist or one must be a libertarian.
I sure wish that was the choices in front of us.
In the absence of a Catholic monarchy or a Catholic republic, then I say keep the state as small as possible. Big, strong, atheistic states have a nasty habit of placing the boot firmly on man's neck. After all, why shouldn't they? The atheist state sees man as a commodity to do with as it wishes.
But, like I said either I said in this thread or any other, until the modernists are evicted from the Vatican, a "Catholic"state would actually be a conciliar state, whether that is actually worse than an atheist state is the topic of another thread. :wink: