Author Topic: Robert Kennedy? (Read 1916 times)

Matto · « **on:** June 11, 2018, 10:08:19 AM »

Hi. What are your thoughts about Robert Kennedy? I don't know much about him. What are your thoughts? People have been saying he was a good Catholic and that he died with a Rosary in his hands. And as evidence of his Catholicism they point to the fact that he had eleven children. What do you think about him? I know very little about him.

JezusDeKoning · « **Reply #1 on:** June 11, 2018, 11:35:20 AM »

Unlike his president brother, he actually lived the Faith. JFK was a womanizing trashbag who pretended to be Catholic and Ted Kennedy at some point, completely apostatized.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #2 on:** June 11, 2018, 12:35:31 PM »

Quote from: JezusDeKoning on June 11, 2018, 11:35:20 AM

JFK was a womanizing trashbag who pretended to be Catholic

If for one think that much of that was made up to smear him. Didn't JFK go to Mass and Confession the morning he died?

forlorn · « **Reply #3 on:** June 11, 2018, 01:02:29 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on June 11, 2018, 12:35:31 PM

If for one think that much of that was made up to smear him. Didn't JFK go to Mass and Confession the morning he died?

There's good reason to think this, especially seeing as he was probably αssαssιnαtҽd by the CIA. There is no crowd better at manufacturing narratives than the ʝʊdɛօ-Masons in the CIA.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #4 on:** June 11, 2018, 01:16:55 PM »

Quote from: forlorn on June 11, 2018, 01:02:29 PM

There's good reason to think this, especially seeing as he was probably αssαssιnαtҽd by the CIA. There is no crowd better at manufacturing narratives than the ʝʊdɛօ-Masons in the CIA.

Hoover was notorious for fabricating "evidence". I've seen someone go through and show that JFK could not have been with Marilyn Monroe. And Marilyn was on the government payroll too.

President Truman said this:

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... we want no Gestapo or secret police. The FBI is tending in that direction. They are dabbling in sex-life scandals and plain blackmail. J. Edgar Hoover would give his right eye to take over, and all congressmen and senators are afraid of him.

Pax Vobis · « **Reply #5 on:** June 11, 2018, 01:49:00 PM »

I've seen about 1/3 of a fairly lengthy docuмentary on Robert Kennedy. When he was working at the justice dept, he was wrapped up in all the civil rights protests and helping Martin Luther King Jr out of jail. He also ordered the Feds into Alabama and other states to stop race riots and to force Alabama to let african americans into college. As one commentator said of him, "When Robert thinks a goal is worth reaching, he can be very forceful, even ruthless, in attempting to reach that goal." I think this applied to civil rights, where he obviously trampled upon state's rights in order to use Federal force to get what he wanted.

Personally, (though I haven't finished the docuмentary) he seemed like a good family man and a man who acted on principles and cared about America. I'm sure he would've won the presidency; there's a reason he was killed. I doubt he was a globalist or part of the elite, though he may have been liberal in some areas (who wasn't in the 60s?)

klasG4e · « **Reply #6 on:** June 11, 2018, 04:40:09 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on June 11, 2018, 12:35:31 PM

If for one think that much of that was made up to smear him. Didn't JFK go to Mass and Confession the morning he died?

Obviously, he was smeared, but in the post-Camelot smearing department he may very well have been his own worst enemy. He certainly was no choir boy.

As far as JFK going to Mass and Confession the morning he died, I've heard that before and even tried to research it once, but could find absolutely nothing even approaching hard evidence for same. If he did, I believe it would have been rather out of character for him since he was not a daily nor even semi-daily communicant when it would have been much more easy for him assuming that he could have had a Catholic priest saying Mass in the White House for him if he so requested. I don't think that would have been in any violation of the 1917 Code, although I could be wrong on that. it would certainly not have been in violation of the U.S. Constitution then or even now. If it was in violation of Canon Law he could have gone to daily Mass outside the White House. Imagine what an inspiring (and converting?) thing that would have been for a lot of the public and a soul assisting thing it would have been for him.

In any event, I very much doubt that JFK would have squeezed in a Mass and Confession on the morning of his being shot. If indeed, he actually did go to Mass on the very morning he died it should be fairly easy to find some real docuмentation for same.

The powerful Israeli Jєωs and some other Jєωs hated Kennedy. I just wish he had given them a very strong (or at least a much stronger) CATHOLIC reason for hating him. That said, I very much hope the dear American President saved his soul and meets up with another president who was αssαssιnαtҽd 20 days before him. That earlier murdered president WAS a daily communicant and that president had indeed assisted at Mass the morning he was murdered by a military coup sponsored by the U.S. government. See, for instance, https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2016/01/18/two-catholic-presidents-and-the-escalation-of-the-vietnam-war/

poche · « **Reply #7 on:** June 12, 2018, 02:10:44 AM »

This is from the last words of Robert Kennedy;

Juan Romero, who was 17 during the 1968 incident, was working on that early June night when the presidential hopeful made remarks at the Ambassador Hotel, he recalled during an interview with StoryCorps, according to NPR.
After Kennedy spoke, he was reportedly ushered through the hotel’s kitchen, where he paused to greet employees, including Romero.
"I remember extending my hand as far as I could, and then I remember him shaking my hand," Romero reportedly said during the interview. "And as he let go, somebody shot him."

Romero, now 67, recalled Kennedy's final words.
“Is everybody OK?” he asked, to which Romero said he replied, “Yes” before cushioning the senator’s head with his hands.
"I could feel a steady stream of blood coming through my fingers," Romero reportedly said. "I remember I had a rosary in my shirt pocket and I took it out, thinking that he would need it a lot more than me. I wrapped it around his right hand and then they wheeled him away."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/...words.html

I think we should pray for the repose of his soul that his soul and the souls of all the faithful departed rest in peace.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #8 on:** June 12, 2018, 09:58:48 AM »

Quote from: klasG4e on June 11, 2018, 04:40:09 PM

The powerful Israeli Jєωs and some other Jєωs hated Kennedy. I just wish he had given them a very strong (or at least a much stronger) CATHOLIC reason for hating him. That said, I very much hope the dear American President saved his soul and meets up with another president who was αssαssιnαtҽd 20 days before him. That earlier murdered president WAS a daily communicant and that president had indeed assisted at Mass the morning he was murdered by a military coup sponsored by the U.S. government. See, for instance, https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2016/01/18/two-catholic-presidents-and-the-escalation-of-the-vietnam-war/

Is there any evidence that JFK knew about and approved of the Diem assassination? Or was it carried out by the same rogue elements who finished off JFK soon afterward.

Last Tradhican · « **Reply #9 on:** June 12, 2018, 10:14:26 AM »

A rich and famous educated Catholic man with 11 children from one wife he never divorced, says a lot to me. At the very least I give him the benefit of doubt concerning bad reports from the media.

Incredulous · « **Reply #10 on:** June 12, 2018, 10:15:09 AM »

Quote from: klasG4e on June 11, 2018, 04:40:09 PM

Obviously, he was smeared, but in the post-Camelot smearing department he may very well have been his own worst enemy. He certainly was no choir boy.

As far as JFK going to Mass and Confession the morning he died, I've heard that before and even tried to research it once, but could find absolutely nothing even approaching hard evidence for same. If he did, I believe it would have been rather out of character for him since he was not a daily nor even semi-daily communicant when it would have been much more easy for him assuming that he could have had a Catholic priest saying Mass in the White House for him if he so requested. I don't think that would have been in any violation of the 1917 Code, although I could be wrong on that. it would certainly not have been in violation of the U.S. Constitution then or even now. If it was in violation of Canon Law he could have gone to daily Mass outside the White House. Imagine what an inspiring (and converting?) thing that would have been for a lot of the public and a soul assisting thing it would have been for him.

In any event, I very much doubt that JFK would have squeezed in a Mass and Confession on the morning of his being shot. If indeed, he actually did go to Mass on the very morning he died it should be fairly easy to find some real docuмentation for same.

The powerful Israeli Jєωs and some other Jєωs hated Kennedy. I just wish he had given them a very strong (or at least a much stronger) CATHOLIC reason for hating him. That said, I very much hope the dear American President saved his soul and meets up with another president who was αssαssιnαtҽd 20 days before him. That earlier murdered president WAS a daily communicant and that president had indeed assisted at Mass the morning he was murdered by a military coup sponsored by the U.S. government. See, for instance, https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2016/01/18/two-catholic-presidents-and-the-escalation-of-the-vietnam-war/

Good points KlasG4e.

In memory of Vietnamese president, Ngo Dinh Diem, the Catholic who relentlessly resisted communism

He is likely in Heaven since he was murdered while praying his Holy Communion "Thanksgiving" at a Lourdes Shrine after Mass.

BTW, there's a Youtube video where LBJ calls him corrupt and admits the US αssαssιnαtҽd him.

Back to topic, my memory and impressions of RFK is one of a liberal/confused Catholic.

The whole Civil rights thing, with the Jєω-media agenda to pump-out images of "white hate".
Perfect for their national "racial divide & conquer" strategy.
The Kennedy's fell prey to this mentality.

I've read where JFK was weak in standing-up for the Faith due to anti-Catholic and political pressures.

But my take is that he was inherently, Irish Catholic and did lead sometimes, by example.

JFK leaving Sunday Mass

If you study the Kennedy family, it might be a good example of Father Ripperger's excellent "Generational Spirits" lecture.

The patriarch, Joe Kennedy, was smart and had some success in beating the Jєωs at their own games.
(e.g. His position in the Canadian liquor business during Prohibition).

I'm not aware of his Catholic devoutness, but it seems, he was naive enough to think he could groom his sons for politics and keep beating the tribe. If anything, this was the origins of the "Kennedy curse".

To make a long story short, the ʝʊdɛօ-masonics ultimately αssαssιnαtҽd Joe's two sons and grandson.

Why?

Because, JFK had denied Israel nuclear weapons, RFK was on the criminal trail of LBJ & John Connolly and JFK Jr. was eager to dig up evidence of these assassination cօռspιʀαcιҽs.

klasG4e · « **Reply #11 on:** June 12, 2018, 05:28:23 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on June 12, 2018, 09:58:48 AM

Is there any evidence that JFK knew about and approved of the Diem assassination? Or was it carried out by the same rogue elements who finished off JFK soon afterward.

Excellent questions! Let's go with the first one first. As far as I can determine, there is no evidence that JFK knew about and approved of the Diem assassination, but that really doesn't let him off the hook in my opinion for the assassination. It merely reduces the degree of presumed culpability. I say presumed culpability because short of a divine insight we would never know enough on the matter to know what actual degree of culpability, if any, JFK may have had before Almighty God in the matter of assassination.

As I said, I think it merely reduces the presumed culpability of JFK for the assassination of Diem. JFK definitely knew about the coup desired by certain Vietnamese Generals and knowing that he was in a position to halt the coup or -- at the very least -- attempt to halt the coup, he did neither. (See the below audio/transcript link for some direct testimony of the president himself concerning the coup.) It would not have taken a rocket scientist or a POTUS for that matter to know that a coup by the Vietnamese Generals against the Catholic President they did not want to rule them might very well result in a dead president. Assassination of the overthrown leader, if not always inevitable in a coup, is certainly quite common -- especially in a coup carried out during time of war.

Some of what JFK recorded (http://www.wbur.org/news/2013/11/21/kennedy-records-private-vietnam ) on November 4, 1963 concerning the military coup which violently overthrew a fellow Catholic President: "Monday, Nov. 4, 1963. The — over the weekend, the coup in Saigon took place, culminated three months of conversation about a coup, conversation which divided the government here and in Saigon. I feel that we must bear a good deal of responsibility for it, beginning with our cable of early August, in which we suggested the coup."

A good source pointing to incrimination or lack thereof for JFK's alleged involvement in the coup resulting in the death of President Diem depending on your interpretation of same is seen here: https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB101/ Of particular note is the AUDIO CLIP found between DOcuмENT 18 and DOcuмENT 19.

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As for your second question, the actual physical assassination of Diem was by all accounts that I've ever run across carried out solely by Vietnamese who were in no way involved with the assassination of JFK. I strongly suspect, however, that there were at least some people who had varying degrees of knowledge of the planned coup of Diem and who also exerted some varying degree of influence in pushing for the coup to go forward with the very likely assassination of Diem in the process who also had varying degrees of knowledge and culpable influence in the moving forward of the plan to αssαssιnαtҽ JFK. I think some of the names of these people are included in the names of the people found here: https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB101/

klasG4e · « **Reply #12 on:** June 12, 2018, 05:53:56 PM »

Quote from: Incredulous on June 12, 2018, 10:15:09 AM

I'm not aware of his Catholic devoutness, but it seems, he was naive enough to think he could groom his sons for politics and keep beating the tribe.

I think that Pappa Joe was dead set on getting one of his sons in the White House. I also think he was well aware of the Jєωιѕн Question and could not stand the Jєωs. At the same time, I believe he came to the clear realization that the only chance for getting his boy into the WH was if he made some sort of a strained peace with the Tribe. Let's hope he made it or makes it into heaven where if he did or does he won't have to worry out making a false peace with any Jєωs.

Last Tradhican · « **Reply #13 on:** June 12, 2018, 06:25:46 PM »

This thread is about Robert Kennedy, since you gentlemen are discussing JFK, let me add my part:

The Cubans in the know, after much study after the fact, concluded that the Bay of Pigs invasion was a gimmick to sponge up all of the fighting Cuban youth in Miami and turn them over to Castro. Everything points to that, and that is why the Miami Cubans hate the Kennedy's (the old guys, the young, under 40, have become just like any American). Moreover, the US Coast Guard protected Castro for years from attacks from Miami Cubans. The NWO put Castro in power because they wanted to spread communism in South America (communists make good slave labor) , and Cuba was chosen because it is an island, easy to defend. In Nicaragua, it was not defendable and it fell to a handful of patriots who kept the fight going against the communists from all the bordering countries. Although years later they voted for a commie.

Incredulous · « **Reply #14 on:** June 12, 2018, 09:43:32 PM »

Quote from: Last Tradhican on June 12, 2018, 06:25:46 PM

This thread is about Robert Kennedy, since you gentlemen are discussing JFK, let me add my part:

The Cubans in the know, after much study after the fact, concluded that the Bay of Pigs invasion was a gimmick to sponge up all of the fighting Cuban youth in Miami and turn them over to Castro. Everything points to that, and that is why the Miami Cubans hate the Kennedy's (the old guys, the young, under 40, have become just like any American). Moreover, the US Coast Guard protected Castro for years from attacks from Miami Cubans. The NWO put Castro in power because they wanted to spread communism in South America (communists make good slave labor) , and Cuba was chosen because it is an island, easy to defend. In Nicaragua, it was not defendable and it fell to a handful of patriots who kept the fight going against the communists from all the bordering countries. Although years later they voted for a commie.

Right on LT!
And to solve the Castro mystery... it turns out he was a Jєω. Ha, ha, ha.

Unbelievable, but it is true and that's what explains his regime's resilience.

The Jєωιѕн "Internationale" saw to his survival.

Castro was a scuм-bag and would have died in the 1960's if it were not for his ʝʊdɛօ-masonic protection.

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