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Offline Neil Obstat

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Rick Wiles the Protestant preaches repent but not penance
« on: September 06, 2018, 01:21:33 PM »
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    90-year old Norwegian woman claimed to have prophetic vision told in 1968.
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    https://www.trunews.com/stream/did-a-90-yr-old-norwegian-women-prophesy-world-war-3
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    You can download the audio --- skip the first 23 minutes unless you want to hear the same old same old for 23 minutes.
    (IF you're hollingsworth you might be impressed with the same old same old.)
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    24:06 "I saw the world like a kind of globe, and I saw Europe, land by land..."  
    You know it's not colloquial American because it doesn't say, "I seen the world... and I seen Europe..."
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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: Rick Wiles the Protestant preaches repent but not penance
    « Reply #1 on: September 06, 2018, 01:58:23 PM »
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    In the second half, they repeat over and over that they're talking about sin, convict you of your sin, preaching sin...
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    Somehow they miss the sin of Protestantism, the sin of denial of works, miracles, sanctifying grace, penance, Purgatory....
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    They do talk about a number of specific sins, and how certain other popular Protestant preachers don't mention sin.
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    It's ironic how they criticize other Protestants for having this blind spot, when they have a very nearly identical blind spot.
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    Re: Rick Wiles the Protestant preaches repent but not penance
    « Reply #2 on: September 06, 2018, 07:29:08 PM »
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    ETA: They seem to never mention the sin of presumption.
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    Part of that ongoing blind spot. prolly.
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    Wiles says at one point, addressing the e-mail he received, if you aren't concerned with people falling into hell then I have to question your salvation. 
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    (For a so-called evangelical that constitutes a severe blow to the listener's ego since they believe that when you "get saved" -- by accepting Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior {which BTW is a "work" but they deny the spiritual efficacy of "works" which is another contradiction} -- then you receive "baptism of the spirit" {which amounts to their own particular version of Baptism of Desire, but that's another topic} which is your redemption AND justification without distinction.) Because anyone who isn't deeply affected by thousands of souls falling into hell, well, you can't really be a Christian, he says.
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    When evangelicals say they are "saved" it is an act of presumption, which is a deadly sin. 
    They make unusual faces when you tell them, "You're not saved until you're dead."
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    They deny the power of the priest to forgive sins, so for them repentance consists of making a private prayer to God asking for forgiveness which for some reason they can never explain evokes a vending-machine-like transaction with God that automatically forgives your sins.  This private prayer to God, this repentance on your own terms, is a "work" which they don't recognize as a work, since they deny that works have any spiritual value. But it presumes the mercy of God without the intervention or review or graces of the Sacrament of Penance, and as such is a sin of presumption. But evangelicals never talk about the sin of presumption.
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    Here we go again with the hermeneutic of continuity of Ben XVI, because presuming forgiveness and effectively auto-absolution is a sin, but evangelicals say it is the negation of sin, IOW the same thing would be objectively a sin and subjectively be not a sin at the same time. Not only they say it's not a sin but it removes all your other sins, too. What they're really trying to say is PERFECT CONTRITION, which is objectively a noble goal, but subjective denial of the dogma of the Church is a contradiction of perfect contrition, so we're back to something BEING and NOT BEING at the same time, a deadly denial of the principle of non-contradiction, IOW the hermeneutic of continuity of B16. It's a vicious cycle.
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