I don't know anything about this guy -- but apparently I got on his 'e-mail list" --

I just wanted to post it because he recounts yet ANOTHER interesting anecdote of how the "powers that be" in the Church treat those fighting for tradition, dignity of worship, truth...


God Bless, Friends in Christ.   I had also considered the subject, "The Calming of
the Stormy Sea".    We must most assuredly pray and plea that Our Lord calm the
'stormy sea' which might be compared to the current situation in Our Church.  
 
If I read Our Church history correctly, the past instances of severe problems in Our
Church were NEVER solved by the hierarchy - but - Our Lord answering the prayers
and pleas of the faithful; the apostles in the boat in that instance and He would need
to intercede for us now.    I firmly believe that we are now being offered an 'answer'
to calm those seas but in addition to our prayers and pleas, however, it may take
a revolt?
 
It doesn't appear that we could do this with a short and concise message but I would
hope to encourage you to act with commitment, to additional prayer and to respond
in your own way in what we view as an 'answer'.
 
On Monday, Feb 12, 2007, there were approximately 30-40 people attending what was
announced as a 'workshop' regarding the Latin Mass community here in Tucson.
At the 'moderator's table' were three Catholic priests, whom I would refer to as the
moderator, the principal representative and a priest who assists at the community.
 
At the introduction we were told that the discussion would be "open to any comments
and participants could ask any questions".    Following the opening presentation, a
participant expressed his deep concern about the 'various ceremonies of folk song
masses, picnic masses', and a few other illustrations of past novus ordo masses.
The moderator readily agreed and, that if time permitted, he might add '3 to 4
hundred' more.
 
Another participant asked the question, "Father, does the Catholic Church still teach
that outside the Catholic Church, there is no salvation".   Receiving an affirmative
Yes, he went on to explain his personal experiences with the 'implementation' of the
G.I.R.M. at a local parish.  In essence, when he asked the three priests at that parish,
' why the Instructions were not being complied with', he was told that the 'hierarchy'
would simply chose which of the Instructions would be - and those that were still being
considered.   The moderator explained to him that many times 'other circuмstances
 are present which we laity may not understand'.
 
Then I, asked, "Father, in an earlier reply you asked the question, 'What can we do'
(the tape recording has the question being asked twice in repetition) and would you
then be accepting suggestions"?    I then went on to emphatically suggest that a beginning
to the solution of the problem would be that "Vatican II should be eradicated, redacted,
eliminated, erased, burnt and buried - along with all the changes it represented".
 
Please take a moment to reflect upon the three previous paragraphs, 'open to
comments/questions', 'complete agreement on the hundreds of past novus ordo
masses' and the 'teaching that outside the Church - no salvation'.
 
Following my emphatic suggestion, the principal representative of the community
chose to respond in lieu of the moderator's responding.   What the participants then
heard was a more emphatic response (which included pounding of the table!) that
"The community would demand that all the teachings of Vatican II must be accepted-
that all would need to accept the SANCTITY OF THE NOVUS ORDO   - AND -
unless you accept that, YOU WOULD NOT BE CATHOLIC".
 
Does Vatican II 'teach' Ecuмenism?   Of course it does!  and how pray tell, does that
teach  that - - 'outside the Church - there is no salvation'?
 
Did 'Indian feather', 'hockey', 'basketball', 'folk dance', 'picnic', 'baptism of dolls', 'clown'
etc, etc (300-400 others!) actually add sanctification to the Novus Ordo?    Dear Friends
in Christ, we are unable to describe the utter depth of 'spiritual deprivation' that would
have EVER permitted - 'sanctity' and the 'novus ordo' might  ever come to be used
in the same positive  phrase.    'Sanctity'  and the 300-400 illustrations of the 'abuses of the
N.O.'  are further APART than we are from the extremities of far outer space!
 
My most earnest suggestion is that the time for 'meekness, patience and sheep-like
acceptance' of the crumbs and left-overs of 'available facilities, available clergy and
available times' for the Traditional Liturgy and Sacraments provided by our forefathers
for the Salvation of our souls and the souls of our families, MUST BE OVER - - THE
TIME IS OVER!
 
We are in contact with an organization that would consider the application of Canon
Law and Civil Law to insure our RIGHT AS CATHOLICS to the Traditional Liturgy and
Sacraments.   We would need more commitment as Catholics - than money.   We
must be willing to act as a group of Traditional Catholics.  We must be willing to deal
with disappointment, chastisement and disagreement.    All of which we could handle
with PRAYER, Pleadings and a complete acceptance of the Will of Our Lord.
 
Use word of mouth, the telephone, the internet and mail to pass the word.    We would
anticipate an urgent plea to the 'hierarchy' for a truly open meeting that would result in
at least ONE sanctuary in the Tucson area being DEDICATED EXCLUSIVELY, SOLELY
AND WHOLLY TO THE CONDUCT OF THE TRADITIONAL LITURGY AND SACRAMENTS!
You might expect that task to be formidable?   Accept our caution that it will likely not be
accomplished with 'lip service'.    Our intent is to replicate Gideon's Army!
 
Will our 'spiritual starvation' for the One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Church of our forefathers
and of the Communion of Saints not DRIVE us to act?
 
In view of the debacle of the 'workshop' described above, is it at all possible that the
PRIMARY purpose of the Latin Mass community is to generate funds for the financial
problems of the Diocese?
 
If our experiences at the 'workshop' are indicative of the others who were present,
could there have been a more vivid illustration of the hypocrisy of the teachings of
Vatican II, of the myriad multitude of abuses of the fraudulent liturgy known as the Novus
Ordo and that almost the entire effort of the 'hierarchy' of the counterfeit church is being
directed toward the 'salvation of the properties of the church' and almost none
whatsoever toward 'SALUS ANIMARUM SUPREMA LEX' - 'Supreme law is the
salvation of souls'?
 
You may chose to accept my effort as a 'hod carrier'.   I offer to help carry the 'mortar'
and it will eventually be up to a multitude responding that will 'lay the bricks' which
would rebuild our crumbling Church.     God Willing and Directing our efforts might
yet - in our lifetime -  'Instaurare Omina in Christo' - restore all things in Christ!
 
God Bless, JMJ, pray for us, hod carrier, leo
 
Leo Kimminau

I agree.

Everyone wants to be the one who "starts something" -- oh darn, I guess they'll have to consent to be interviewed by the mass media and everything. I guess they'll have to cast humility aside as they tell the world (in so many words) "it was all my idea".

No, I'll stick with giving out advice that the Church came up with -- so if it works, I can't take any credit.

Matthew