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Offline Catholic Samurai

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« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2012, 10:41:01 AM »
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    It isn't that we have to hate them, Deo-- it's that they hate us. Islam is literally full of people-- kids, most of 'em-- who look forward eagerly to the chance to blow themselves up to kill a few of us. How many Christians do you know who'd commit ѕυιcιdє to kill a few Muslims?


    Quite a few actually.
    "Louvada Siesa O' Sanctisimo Sacramento!"~warcry of the Amakusa/Shimabara rebels

    "We must risk something for God!"~Hernan Cortes


    TEJANO AND PROUD!


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    « Reply #16 on: April 06, 2012, 10:56:02 AM »
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    ...rainfall capture....


    An act that has been criminalized in several jurisdictions already.


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    « Reply #17 on: April 06, 2012, 11:21:27 AM »
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  • Good to see that some practicing Catholics are awake and aware of the trajectory of current events.

    I'd like to add a few considerations.

    Growing season.  Unless one wants to eat "Eskimo ice cream" (rancid blubber, sugar, and berries) for a significant portion of the year, I would advocate a location that has a decent growing season—and, of course, fertile soil and water. Those of us who are cold weather weenies would also find a decent growing season commensurate with an amiable climate.

    Skill sets and preps. One may certainly acquire a laudable and decent set of skills while being deficient in some critical skills. One may make marvelous acquisitions of "preps" that will eventually run out. For the long term then locating in a convivial Catholic community makes more sense than a grubby hidey-hole.

    Fishing.  Ongoing Fukushima and Deepwater oil volcanos have destroyed the desirability of coastal access for fishing. To some degree, the presence of Fukushima radiation in California milk, vegetables, and cattle is increasingly problematic.

    Speaking as a sinner, the most critical item to me is access to the sacraments.  What doth it profit me if I "save" my life and lose my soul?

    These considerations have slowed my "preps."  Where is there a Catholic community with a climate that doesn't freeze methane or vaporize steel (poetic license), fertile soil, plenty of water, and enough folks with complimentary skill sets and resources without an immediately overbearing presence of the enemies of Jesus Christ Our King?

    The Idaho panhandle is attractive in many ways, but the growing season is short and the Federal undercover presence is pervasive.  Arizona is attractive in many ways but the growing season is shorter than you'd think because the blistering summer heat fractures the climate into two short growing seasons and there is a major fusion center and lawless police state. Most secular requirements can be met in Northern CA/Southern OR but there are no Sacraments between San Francisco and Eugene.

    All this underscores what the Blessed Mother has warned—that there will be NO place to be safe.... and that all we will have will be her Rosary.

    Ideas?


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    « Reply #19 on: April 06, 2012, 12:47:22 PM »
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    How many Christians do you know who'd commit ѕυιcιdє to kill a few Muslims?


    Quote from: Catholic Samurai
    Quite a few actually.


    You can't be serious. I don't know of any.

    Guess I don't get out enough.


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    « Reply #20 on: April 06, 2012, 09:38:12 PM »
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  • ѕυιcιdє is a mortal sin. Any "Catholic" willing to commit ѕυιcιdє for any reason is either mentally unbalanced or doesn't have the faith.

    A crusade on the other hand...

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    « Reply #21 on: April 06, 2012, 10:30:55 PM »
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  • Dittos on the crusade.

    I know there are sharply divided opinions on this site about our proper relationship with Muslims. Let me preface my following remarks by saying that I'm a retired Army officer with a foreign area officer specialty & a Middle Eastern emphasis. During the Iranian Hostage Crisis back in the '80s I was a low-level advisor because of contacts I'd made with Iranians. Later, as I worked in the field, I developed other acquaintenceships with numerous Muslims, mostly Sunni but a few Shi'ite, whom in other circuмstances I would have called friends-- except that Muslims aren't allowed to have Jєωιѕн or Christian "friends".

    Based on my experience, it is my strongly held belief that Islam is pervaded by an irrational hatred of Christianity, Christians, & Western civilization in general. Forced conversion at the point of a sword is a central tenet of Islam, & Mohammed was a military leader who set that example. Unlike Christianity, Islam was spread mainly by military conquest, & nowadays they feel that Christianity has unjustly replaced Islam as the default religion in much of the world. They'd like to reclaim their pre-eminent position, & can see no nonviolent way of doing so. Hence the doctrine that if you die killing infidels for Allah then in the afterlife you get 72 virgins.

    Given the above, our only proper relationship with Islam is war. I was once banned from another site for saying that, because the mods thought I was advocating ethnic cleansing. What I'm advocating isn't ethnic & it isn't cleansing-- it's a measured response to acts of war committed by Muslims against the United States, & against Christianity.

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    « Reply #22 on: April 07, 2012, 02:06:03 AM »
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  • So, Graehame, what is your opinion on "our only proper relationship" with Judaism?


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    « Reply #23 on: April 07, 2012, 02:10:43 AM »
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  • Quote from: Deo Vindice
    ... But then again, I really have no idea of what I'm talking about when it comes to opus dei....


    Read these summaries and you will begin to understand the change agents of Opus Judei.


    "Chapter III : The Hidden Judaism of Opus Dei"
    http://www.alcazar.net/Opus_Dei.pdf

    Opus Judei
    http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2007/02/opus-judei.html

    Opus Judei Glosses on the тαℓмυdic Novus Ordo "Offertory"
    http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2010/02/o...udic-novus.html

    Opus Judei Founder, Escriba Preached Kabbalistic Doctrine, Tikkun Olam
    http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2007/07/opus-judei-founder-escriba-preached.html

    "Opus Dei" "Hebrew Catholic" Connection
    http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2008/02/opus-dei-hebrew-catholic-connection.html

    "Hebrew Catholics" see: Khazar тαℓмυdists
    http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2007/11/hebrew-catholics-see-khazar-тαℓмυdists.html

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    « Reply #24 on: April 07, 2012, 02:17:48 AM »
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    At the very minimum, half an acre of good, arable land is actually sufficient for nearly complete self sufficiency, given enough rainfall capture and ideally an aquifer....


    In 21st century standards, one-half acre per person would likely find you calorie deficient.

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    « Reply #25 on: April 07, 2012, 05:52:46 AM »
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    At the very minimum, half an acre of good, arable land is actually sufficient for nearly complete self sufficiency, given enough rainfall capture and ideally an aquifer....


    In 21st century standards, one-half acre per person would likely find you calorie deficient.


    Not really. See how to live off 1 Acre of Land, and other similar articles. The full process requires a greenhouse, chickens, worm farm, fruit trees, and a supply of compost (this is where half an acre will fall over). Really one would need more than half an acre, as with that small amount of land (eg: in a suburban setting) there needs to be supplementation by bringing in manure and garden waste, but this is not a great expense, and over time the requirements for this decrease gradually.



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    « Reply #26 on: April 07, 2012, 11:10:57 AM »
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    So, Graehame, what is your opinion on "our only proper relationship" with Judaism?


    Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, &tc. don't teach in their schools hatred of Christianity. They don't have policies or histories of conversion by the sword. They don't impose a sentence of death on apostates-- those who convert to other religions. So I'd say evangelize them, & otherwise it's live & let live.

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    « Reply #27 on: April 07, 2012, 01:50:38 PM »
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    Most secular requirements can be met in Northern CA/Southern OR but there are no Sacraments between San Francisco and Eugene.



    There is a SSPX priory in Los Gatos, and independent chapel (SSPX-friendly) in San Jose, and a SSPX chapel in Sacramento (mass on Sundays only).

    There are two or three Eastern Catholic churches in Sacramento and several more in the Bay Area and in case of absolute emergency, there are various Orthodox churches in Northern California - some of them in the most unlikely places.

    For those comfortable with Indult, there is a Institute of Christ the King chapel in Santa Clara, a ICK church in Oakland, and a large FSSP parish in Sacramento.

    There have been traces of sedevacantist/independent activity elsewhere in Northern California (i.e., Bay Area), but all that I could find is remnants of old websites with dysfunctional links.

    There are also some secluded Novus Ordo monasteries.






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    « Reply #28 on: April 09, 2012, 09:33:14 AM »
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    So, Graehame, what is your opinion on "our only proper relationship" with Judaism?


    Judaism, ...&tc. don't teach in their schools hatred of Christianity. .... They don't impose a sentence of death on apostates....


    On the contrary:

    Judaism teaches hatred of Christ, Christians, and Christianity.  

    The тαℓмυd teaches that Jesus was a "mamzer" [bastard] conceived adulterously in "niddah" [menstrual filth] by a Roman soldier named Pandera [Kallah 51a] of a whore [Sanhedrin 106a] and that He is now in Hell boiling in feces and, in some editions because Jesus is accused of sɛҳuąƖ perversion, semen [Gittin 57a]. The тαℓмυd claims that the Sanhedrin justly executed Jesus because he was an idolater [Sanhedrin 43a] who worshipped a brick [Sanhedrin 67a], even boasting that the Sanhedrin overcame Roman opposition to the execution of Jesus [Sanhedrin 43a].

    "And for Christians let there be no hope..." Birkat HaMinim, "Benediction" #12 of the Shmone Esreh

    "It is our duty to praise the Master of All, to ascribe greatness to the molder of primeval creation, for He has not made us like the nations of the lands, for He has not assigned our portion like theirs nor our lot like theirs, for they bow to vanity and emptiness and pray to a god who cannot save--man, ash, blood, bile, stinking flesh, maggot, defiled men and women, adulterers and adulteresses, dying in their iniquity and rotting in their wickedness, worn out dust, rot of maggot [and worm]--and pray to a god who cannot save." Aleinu from Judaic prayer book, Two Nations in Your Womb, Israel Jacob Yuval, University of California Press, 2006, p.119

    “I want to attack their souls.” Rabbi Abraham Heschel, interviewed by Geula Cohen for Ma'ariv, January 4, 1965 as translated by AJC/Paris
    http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2007/12/vatican-ii-kabbalist-sage-rabbi-abraham.html

    “You and your f@#king Jesus can kiss my a$%....We killed Jesus and we’re proud of it...”

    “We killed Jesus and we’ll kill you too!” http://www.palsolidarity.org/main/2006/11/18/hebron-day-06/

    Holy Week 1954 Israelis desecrate  Christian cemeteries in Haifa

    March 20, 2008  16 year old son of Protestant pastor injured by bomb in a Purim gift basket http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?c=JPArticle&cid=1205420741251&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

    May 20, 2008 Orthodox Jєωιѕн youths burn New Testaments http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/985362.html

    December 12, 2009 “Death to Christians”: Hebrew graffiti next to Upper Room in Jerusalem
    http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=17106&size=A
    http://tinyurl.com/yjj7stb

    December 14, 2009 Russian cathedral in Jerusalem vandalized
    http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=news&div=6737
    http://tinyurl.com/yzm4ers

    December 16, 2009 More anti-Christian death threats and almost daily urinations at the Cenacle, sacred site of the Last Supper
    http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=17130&size=A
    http://tinyurl.com/yh37jq9

    December 27, 2009 Before Christmas Israelis steal sacred Mary’s Gate from the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.
    http://palestinecry.blogspot.com/2009/12/special-palestine-cry-blog-articles-why.html

    December 30, 2009 Christian convert repeatedly attacked in Jerusalem, police do nothing
    http://www.crosswalk.com/news/religiontoday/11624325/

    December 30, 2009 Christians in Jerusalem want Jєωs to stop spitting on them by Amiram Barkat
    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=487412&contrassID=2&subContrassID=5&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y

    October 18, 2010 Senior Sephardi Rabbi Ovadia Yosef announces that Gentiles only exist to serve Jєωs:
    “Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel… In Israel, death has no dominion over them... With gentiles, it will be like any person – they need to die, but [God] will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money. This is his servant... That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jєω. Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat. That is why gentiles were created.”
    “Yosef: Gentiles exist only to serve Jєωs” by Jonah Mandel, Jerusalem Post, 10/18/2010
    http://www.jpost.com/JєωιѕнWorld/JєωιѕнNews/Article.aspx?id=191782

    Easter 2011 Israeli TV mocks Crucifixion on Easter
    http://www.therightperspective.org/2011/04/24/israeli-tv-mocks-christ-crucifixion/

    Christmas 2011 “As long as I hold office, no non-Jєωιѕн symbol will be presented in the city.”
    How the mayor (of a Nazareth suburb) stole Christmas
    http://972mag.com/how-the-mayor-of-a-nazareth-suburb-stole-christmas-2/6979/



    Their beit din (halachic courts) impose death sentences on apostates.

    The most famous example is Spinoza who received a knife in the neck for his part in the Haskalah (Judaic 'enlightenment," a repudiation of the rabbis and their laws).

    “From the 11th century the persecution of Karaites (a heretical Jєωιѕн sect) [“heretical” because Karaites follow Mosaic Law, not тαℓмυdic Law, “halacha”] by flogging them to death if unrepentant was common in Castile. Jєωιѕн women who cohabited with Gentiles had their noses cut off by rabbis who explained that 'in this way she will lose her beauty and her non-Jєωιѕн lover will come to hate her'. Jєωs who had the effrontery to attack a rabbinical judge had their hands cut off. Adulterers were imprisoned, after being made to run the gauntlet through the Jєωιѕн quarter. In religious disputes, those thought to be heretics had their tongues cut out ...” Prof. Israel Shahak, Jєωιѕн History, Jєωιѕн Religion–the Weight of Three Thousand Years
    http://www.bandung2.co.uk/books/Files/Religion/Jєωιѕн%20History,%20Jєωιѕн%20Religion%20%28The%20Weight%20of%20Three%20Thousand%20Years%29%20-%20Israel%20Shahak.pdf

    "It is a mitzvah [religious duty], however, to eradicate Jєωιѕн traitors, minim [Christians], and apikorsim, ["heretics," i.e., sincere Judaic converts to Christianity] and to cause them to descend to the pit of destruction, since they cause difficulty to the Jєωs and sway the people away from God, as did Jesus of Nazareth and his students, and Tzadok, Baithos, and their students. May the name of the wicked rot." [Maimonides, Mishneh Torah, Chapter 10]


     
    They teach that Christians (and all Gentiles) should be killed.

    "The Christians are idolaters, and Sunday is their holiday..." [Maimonides, Mishneh Torah, Avodah Zorah, 9;4]

    "The Christians are worshipers of Avodah Zorah ["idolatry"]" [Maimonides, Mishneh Torah, Ma'akhalot Assurot, 11:7]

    "It is a mitzvah [religious duty], however, to eradicate Jєωιѕн traitors, minim [Christians], and apikorsim, ["heretics," i.e., sincere Judaic converts to Christianity] and to cause them to descend to the pit of destruction, since they cause difficulty to the Jєωs and sway the people away from God, as did Jesus of Nazareth and his students, and Tzadok, Baithos, and their students. May the name of the wicked rot." [Maimonides, Mishneh Torah, Chapter 10]
    Chabad’s rabbis discuss Maimonides’ advice on killing Gentiles:
    http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/7ab984ab464622535f2770556e1388f6.jpg
    Scroll down to the Commentary on Halacha 1:
    http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/912369/Jєωιѕн/Chapter-Ten.htm


    "... a gentile who worships false gods is liable, [for the death penalty] provided he worships them in the accepted manner [in other words, insincere worship such as (1) faking worship to obtain business or social advantage, as the Marranos, or (2) denying Jesus' divinity, does not earn the death penalty]. A gentile is executed for every type of foreign worship which a Jєωιѕн court would consider worthy of capital punishment." [Maimonides, Hilchot Melachim XI, Mishneh Torah]

    The Jєωιѕн Encyclopedia affirms that the punishment for Christian "idolatry" is beheading. See:
    "Laws, Noachian," Jєωιѕн Encyclopedia entry,
    http://www.Jєωιѕнencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=113&letter=L

    “The best of the gentiles: kill him; the best of snakes: smash its skull; the best of women: is filled with witchcraft.” Kiddushin 66c The uncensored version of this text appears in Tractate Soferim (New York, M. Higer, 1937), 15:7, p. 282. "The best of the gentiles should all be killed."
    http://тαℓмυdical.blogspot.com/2010/09/truth-about-тαℓмυd.html

    Chabad’s rabbis discuss Maimonides’ advice on killing Gentiles:
    “…although our Sages declared, ‘Kill even the best of the gentiles,’ and that, as mentioned above, the Rambam [Maimonides] states in Hilchot Melachim 8:10 that any gentile who does not accept the seven universal laws commanded to Noah and his descendants should be slain. These directives, however. can be interpreted to apply only in a time of war or in a time when the Jєωs have control over the gentiles.”
    http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/7ab984ab464622535f2770556e1388f6.jpg
    Scroll down to the Commentary on Halacha 1:
    http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/912369/Jєωιѕн/Chapter-Ten.htm
    "If we see that a Gentile's life is in danger, we should not save him." (Mishneh Torah, Hilchot Avodah Kochavim, 10:1)
    and so they dumped this dying man off their property without even calling an ambulance:
    http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2012/03/chabadniks-leave-purim-celebrating.html
    Connect the dots:
    (1) what Chabad teaches about killing Gentiles &
    (2) what the Chabadniks did—they dumped a dying man off their property, a man who had celebrated Purim with them. They didn’t call an ambulance. They let the Gentile die, EXACTLY as their Master Race creed teaches.

    The Complete Guide to Killing Non-Jєωs
    Ma’ariv 09.11.09 (p. 2) by Roi Sharon
    http://www.nrg.co.il/online/1/ART1/964/186.html?hp=1&loc=1&tmp=3416
    Here is a full translation of the article in the Maariv newspaper of Israel
    http://didiremez.wordpress.com/2009/11/09/settler-rabbi-publishes-the-complete-guide-to-killing-non-Jєωs/

    Rabbi Eliyahu exhorts the killing of women and children:
    http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=63137

    “The prohibition ‘Thou Shalt Not Murder’” applies only “to a Jєω who kills a Jєω,” write Rabbis Yitzhak Shapira and Yosef Elitzur of the West Bank settlement of Yitzhar. Non-Jєωs are “uncompassionate by nature” and attacks on them “curb their evil inclination,” while babies and children of Israel’s enemies may be killed since “it is clear that they will grow to harm us.”
    http://forward.com/articles/123925/


    They evangelize their Satanic precepts.

    Maimonides legislates that it is incuмbent upon the Jєωιѕн people even to coerce the rest of the world if necessary to accept the Noahide laws [Mishneh Torah , Laws of Kings 8,10] ... we certainly must proselytize every human being to keep those seven laws." (Rabbi Shlomo Riskin, Center for Jєωιѕн-Christian Understanding and Cooperation
    http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2011/01/pope-we-need-to-work-together-with.html)

    Who Says Judaism Isn't a Proselytizing System?
    http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2008/01/who-says-judaism-isnt-proselytizing.html

    USCCB States Principles for "Dialogue" Fraud
    http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2009/10/usccb-statement-of-principles-for.html

    Here are the plans for your re-education:
    http://www.chabad.org/multimedia/media_cdo/aid/142887/Jєωιѕн/Education-Day-USA.htm


    There is nothing "live and let live" about Judaism.

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    « Reply #29 on: April 09, 2012, 09:44:45 AM »
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    Most secular requirements can be met in Northern CA/Southern OR but there are no Sacraments between San Francisco and Eugene.



    There is a SSPX priory in Los Gatos, and independent chapel (SSPX-friendly) in San Jose, and a SSPX chapel in Sacramento (mass on Sundays only).

    There are two or three Eastern Catholic churches in Sacramento and several more in the Bay Area and in case of absolute emergency, there are various Orthodox churches in Northern California - some of them in the most unlikely places.

    For those comfortable with Indult, there is a Institute of Christ the King chapel in Santa Clara, a ICK church in Oakland, and a large FSSP parish in Sacramento.

    There have been traces of sedevacantist/independent activity elsewhere in Northern California (i.e., Bay Area), but all that I could find is remnants of old websites with dysfunctional links.

    There are also some secluded Novus Ordo monasteries.





    Thank you. Having assisted at Mass there, I am very familiar with all the Catholic options there.  Unfortunately they are all urban, hence not what my family would need in a refuge or redoubt.  I am sorry that I did not specify that I am looking for something that will be removed far from the near-certain violence of urban hellholes.