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Offline Darcy

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« Reply #30 on: June 10, 2011, 01:10:02 AM »
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    Hi Thursday,
    Great going!

    Why don't you contact Mel?
    Do you have his e-mail? :scratchchin:


    Just a second, I'll check my files......

     :read-paper:   :reading:    :smash-pc:    :sleep:    :ready-to-eat:    :tv-disturbed:    :detective:


     :idea:


    Well, maybe Mr. Hutton Gibson will forward a message to him. He has a contact page at
    www.huttongibson.com

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    « Reply #31 on: June 10, 2011, 02:12:50 AM »
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  • H Gibson is with J Vennari vs Card's Rampolla, Raphael Del Val and Siri( pope Gregory XVII): and by implication-- Popes Leo and Pius X,XI(XII), XII(XIII) .  :smoke-pot: what happened to the wine emoticon?
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
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    « Reply #32 on: June 10, 2011, 10:01:59 AM »
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  • I guess it got taken off. I'm still hoping Matthew will add a violin emoticon one day.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #33 on: June 10, 2011, 10:29:18 AM »
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    H Gibson is with J Vennari vs Card's Rampolla, Raphael Del Val and Siri( pope Gregory XVII): and by implication-- Popes Leo and Pius X,XI(XII), XII(XIII) .  :smoke-pot: what happened to the wine emoticon?


    oooh. hmmm.  :scratchchin:  :stare:

    What a confusing muddle of unfortunate circuмstances. Let me have a toke on that doobie for a sec.
     :smoke-pot:

    ahhh. There. I think I see more clearly now.

    Let me ask, is it possible to believe that Cardinal Siri was elected and then summarily 'unelected' but not necessarily believe that that means that it must naturally follow that he then became the true pope as Gregory XVII?
    iow, if you believe the first, does that mean you believe the second?

    one step at a time, plz.

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    « Reply #34 on: June 10, 2011, 12:04:57 PM »
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    I guess it got taken off. I'm still hoping Matthew will add a violin emoticon one day.


    I am still waiting for the 3 monkeys
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    « Reply #35 on: June 10, 2011, 12:06:59 PM »
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    H Gibson is with J Vennari vs Card's Rampolla, Raphael Del Val and Siri( pope Gregory XVII): and by implication-- Popes Leo and Pius X,XI(XII), XII(XIII) .  :smoke-pot: what happened to the wine emoticon?


    oooh. hmmm.  :scratchchin:  :stare:

    What a confusing muddle of unfortunate circuмstances. Let me have a toke on that doobie for a sec.
     :smoke-pot:

    ahhh. There. I think I see more clearly now.

    Let me ask, is it possible to believe that Cardinal Siri was elected and then summarily 'unelected' but not necessarily believe that that means that it must naturally follow that he then became the true pope as Gregory XVII?
    iow, if you believe the first, does that mean you believe the second?

    one step at a time, plz.


    I can only speak for myself but any 'unelection' of Siri would be as illegal as the abdication of St Celestine.
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    « Reply #36 on: June 10, 2011, 03:31:43 PM »
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  • So, Mel Gibson owns the movie rights to the Cardinal Siri story?
    interesting.

    What are they (Hutton and Mel), double agents?

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    « Reply #37 on: June 10, 2011, 04:04:36 PM »
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  • I do not trust them
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    « Reply #38 on: June 10, 2011, 04:09:48 PM »
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    I guess it got taken off. I'm still hoping Matthew will add a violin emoticon one day.


    I am still waiting for the 3 monkeys


    I guess you'll have to wait a LONG time then.
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    « Reply #39 on: June 22, 2011, 05:15:55 PM »
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  • Thursday, I just saw your thread here and I am thoroughly impressed. You will be in my rosary intentions...what you are doing is pure warrior. St. Michael must be your patron saint.

    Keep it up, I sometimes wish I would do the things you are doing myself. I pray for courage, Lord!

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    « Reply #40 on: June 23, 2011, 07:51:34 AM »
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  • Catholicism rightly values testimony, and of course, the word of a subject himself. That is the way it's always been. I am thinking specifically of the meeting of Fr. Khoat with Cardinal Siri (do I have to explain that meeting?).

    Believe me, "testimony" and "conclusion of the witness" are two different things (any lawyers on this forum?).

    Fr. Khoat stalked Siri and suddenly faced him with the question, "Are you the pope?" Cardinal Siri answered, categorically, "No". The Cardinal was asked again (because Fr. Khoat didn't accept that categorical answer), and the same answer was given. Fr. Khoat professed he believed Siri was really the true pope, and then proceeded to accuse Cardinal Siri of being guilty of the "murder" of clergy in Vietnam! At that point Cardinal Siri had tears in his eyes (I would, too!). Seeing the man would not take "no" for an answer, and wanting the man out of his face, the Cardinal sarcastically gave the accuser of murder what he wanted, an affirmative answer....which worked, and Fr. Khoat left him alone. If I was Cardinal Siri at that moment, I would have felt my life was in immediate danger, and the sarcastic reply was understandable because the priest clearly would accept no denial. Siri merely humored the frightening stranger.

    The conclusion of the witness is Fr. Khoat believing the extorted affirmation was the truth. However, the actual testimony was the denial given by Cardinal Siri. Cardinal Siri lived that denial his whole life both before and after that meeting. To think the Cardinal was really the true pope and would have revealed that truth ONLY to a stranger that accused him of murder, is just plain fantasy.

    Yes, perhaps Cardinal Siri was elected, but he most assuredly resigned if that were the case. The promoters of Siri as pope say the resignation was under duress and therefore invalid. However, this doesn't hold water because he had no more duress than any other pope, all who knew well how many people hated him, and how the very gates of hell would be focused upon him. This is not a duress that counts. Duress means immanent danger of being killed within moments or hours, for example, and no hypothetical fear counts. In addition, he lived a life of resignation to his resignation in most peaceful years.

    I look at the promoters of Siri as a huge distraction, waste of time and fantasy, and one that even resembles a cult like the Masons in that they go around hoping to make people profess fealty, faith and trust in unseen and unnamed men living who knows where today. Even in the bloody persecution days of the catacombs, Christians knew who the pope was.


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    « Reply #41 on: June 23, 2011, 11:22:41 AM »
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  • No other Cardinal besides Siri can make the claim to be elected in 1958.

    The fact is that there Have been times in history when people did not know who the Pope was.

    It seems as if Nonno and SS both believe at least that Siri Might have been elected. MO is that his taking a papal name proves that he was.
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    « Reply #42 on: June 24, 2011, 05:35:44 PM »
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  • We have the testimony that Cardinal Siri denied being the pope.

    Now, roscoe, where is the testimony that he took a papal name?

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    « Reply #43 on: June 24, 2011, 09:07:32 PM »
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  • Thursday,

    Good work!!  :applause:

    the smart sheep

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    « Reply #44 on: June 27, 2011, 12:10:22 AM »
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    It seems as if Nonno and SS both believe at least that Siri Might have been elected. MO is that his taking a papal name proves that he was.


    roscoe, where is the testimony that he took a papal name?