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Yesha Rabbinical Council: During time of war, enemy has no innocents
Published: 07.30.06, 17:37
The Yesha Rabbinical Council announced in response to an IDF attack in Kfar Qanna that "according to Jєωιѕн law, during a time of battle and war, there is no such term as 'innocents' of the enemy."
All of the discussions on Christian morality are weakening the spirit of the army and the nation and are costing us in the blood of our soldiers and civilians," the statement said.
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Yesha Rabbinical Council: During time of war, enemy has no innocents
From this:
ynet news (http://www.ynetnews.com/)
Yesha Rabbinical Council: During time of war, enemy has no innocents (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/1,7340,L-3283720,00.html)
Published: 07.30.06, 17:37 / Israel News
The Yesha Rabbinical Council announced in response to an IDF attack in Kfar Qanna that "according to Jєωιѕн law, during a time of battle and war, there is no such term as 'innocents' of the enemy."
All of the discussions on Christian morality are weakening the spirit of the army and the nation and are costing us in the blood of our soldiers and civilians," the statement said. (Efrat Weiss)
Clearly the Israeli military disagrees with them.
The yesha council rabbis pretty much speak for themselves. They are an inflammatory bunch. One hesitates to compare them with the Ward Churchill types, or even David Duke types. But such extremists are what they are. They are unreasonable.
Yet you could argue that for their ridiculous rhetoric, they were still on the right side of the issue. As Israel showed weakness, it also encouraged its enemies. They just simply want more, until they fulfill their pledge to push Israel into the sea.
It does UNDERLINE something important, which perhaps simplistic critics here seem not to grasp. Orthodox Judaism IS opposed to Roman Catholicism. While there may not be the disdain for Roman Protestantism, there certainly is for those true and faithful to God and His Church. For the backbone sometimes - sometimes - shown by Netanyahu, one really doesn't need to hear his views, for example, on Catholicism. They are unfavorable, to say the least.
One can be Catholic, and support Israel. That doesn't mean that the Third-Temple types, the orthodox rabbis, would in turn have a kind word to say about the God of the Temple, of Roman Catholicism, or of His Roman Catholic Church.
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IDF commander: We fired more than a million cluster bombs in Lebanon
By Meron Rappaport
Haaretz
"What we did was insane and monstrous, we covered entire towns in cluster bombs," the head of an IDF rocket unit in Lebanon said regarding the use of cluster bombs and phosphorous shells during the war.
Quoting his battalion commander, the rocket unit head stated that the IDF fired around 1,800 cluster bombs, containing over 1.2 million cluster bomblets.
In addition, soldiers in IDF artillery units testified that the army used phosphorous shells during the war, widely forbidden by international law. According to their claims, the vast majority of said explosive ordinance was fired in the final 10 days of the war.
The rocket unit commander stated that Multiple Launch Rocket System (MLRS) platforms were heavily used in spite of the fact that they were known to be highly inaccurate.
MLRS is a track or tire carried mobile rocket launching platform, capable of firing a very high volume of mostly unguided munitions. The basic rocket fired by the platform is unguided and imprecise, with a range of about 32 kilometers. The rockets are designed to burst into sub-munitions at a planned altitude in order to blanket enemy army and personnel on the ground with smaller explosive rounds.
The use of such weaponry is controversial mainly due to its inaccuracy and ability to wreak great havoc against indeterminate targets over large areas of territory, with a margin of error of as much as 1,200 meters from the intended target to the area hit.
The cluster rounds which don't detonate on impact, believed by the United Nations to be around 40% of those fired by the IDF in Lebanon, remain on the ground as unexploded munitions, effectively littering the landscape with thousands of land mines which will continue to claim victims long after the war has ended.
Because of their high level of failure to detonate, it is believed that there are around 500,000 unexploded munitions on the ground in Lebanon. To date 12 Lebanese civilians have been killed by these mines since the end of the war.
According to the commander, in order to compensate for the inaccuracy of the rockets and the inability to strike individual targets precisely, units would "flood" the battlefield with munitions, accounting for the littered and explosive landscape of post-war Lebanon.
When his reserve duty came to a close, the commander in question sent a letter to Defense Minister Amir Peretz outlining the use of cluster munitions, a letter which has remained unanswered.
'Excessive injury and unnecessary suffering'
It has come to light that IDF soldiers fired phosphorous rounds in order to cause fires in Lebanon. An artillery commander has admitted to seeing trucks loaded with phosphorous rounds on their way to artillery crews in the north of Israel.
A direct hit from a phosphorous shell typically causes severe burns and a slow, painful death.
International law forbids the use of weapons that cause "excessive injury and unnecessary suffering", and many experts are of the opinion that phosphorous rounds fall directly in that category.
The International Red Cross has determined that international law forbids the use of phosphorous and other types of flammable rounds against personnel, both civilian and military. ("IDF commander: 'We fired more than a million cluster bombs in Lebanon'," Meron Rappaport, Haaretz 12/09/2006)
Full article:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/761781.html (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/761781.html
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... [Israeli] Maj.-Gen. (res.) Udi Adam, was suspected of ordering the firing of cluster bombs into populated areas during the final days of the fighting.
The US State Department conducted its own investigation into the IDF's use of American-made cluster bombs and found that Israel had violated an agreement with Washington prohibiting the firing of the bombs on populated areas ...
Despite all the criticism and the diplomatic crisis caused by Israel's use of the bombs, the IDF has withheld Hacohen's report. (Jerusalem Post, "IDF cluster bomb report still incomplete," Yaakov Katz, 8/2/07)
full article:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1185893694818&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1185893694818&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull)
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тαℓмυdic Racial Supremacism in the Israeli Military (http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2007/03/100-pure-judaic-racial-supremacism.html)
"The Most Moral Army in the World" (http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2007/07/idf-most-moral-army-in-world.html)
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IDF Blitzkriegs Palestinian Jail in Celebration of Purim (http://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/2006/03/israeli-assassins-assault-jericho-jail.html#links)
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Cause and Effect (http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2007/06/ʝʊdɛօ-christian-tradition.html)
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Orthodox [Judaic] soldiers are among the most motivated personnel in the IDF, with disproportionately high numbers volunteering for elite combat units and reserve duty, according to experts ... (Jerusalem Post, Matthew Wagner and Yaakov Katz, Aug. 6, 2007)
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull&cid=1186066390493 (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull&cid=1186066390493)
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"When there is a clash between a directive in the spirit of the [IDF ethical] code and an order of Jєωιѕн law, it is clear that one must listen to the opinion of Jєωιѕн law." (IDF Chief Rabbi, Colonel Rabbi Avi Ronsky as quoted in Haaretz, Feb. 21, 2006)
http://web.archive.org/web/20060225225238/http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasen/spages/685158.html (http://web.archive.org/web/20060225225238/http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasen/spages/685158.html)
"Part of my job as the chief military rabbi, perhaps the central part, is to reconnect the soldiers with the values of Judaism." (IDF Chief Rabbi, Colonel Rabbi Avi Ronsky, By Ariela Ringel-Hoffman - YNet, Oct 17, 2006)
http://www.shechem.org/interact/publish/article_233.shtml (http://www.shechem.org/interact/publish/article_233.shtml)
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"When there is a clash between a directive in the spirit of the [IDF ethical] code and an order of Jєωιѕн law, it is clear that one must listen to the opinion of Jєωιѕн law." (IDF Chief Rabbi, Colonel Rabbi Avi Ronsky as quoted in Haaretz, Feb. 21, 2006)
Whether the yesha council rabbis or these 'chaplains', or whoever else, no one need listen to them if they spout the sort of thing which was quoted about 'total war', no innocents, and so on.
If you find examples of excess, what surprises me is that you find NONE on the part of those who attack Israel.
You were asked questions about that. You've always avoided answering. It seems evasive. And at any rate, or whatever the case, obviously you won't let the facts stand in your way.
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(DAVID GUTTENFELDER / AP)
Israeli soldiers load missiles on a military vehicle as Israeli orthodox Jєωs dance, to show their support for the troops.
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Israeli Soldiers eating "Haman's ears" the traditional pastry of the Judaic festival of Vengeance, Purim
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After finishing an extensive period of service on the front lines of the Jordan Valley action area, the 'Netzach Yehuda' Battalion, Kfir Brigade's Ultra Orthodox battalion, set out on a front-line service trek. The total distance is 14 km, and the course finishes at the Mazada fortress by the Dead Sea. At the end, all of the warriors and soldiers of the command gathered for morning prayer services, with the view of the Dead Sea.
Photo by Abir Sultan / IDF Photo
(http://www.israelnationalnews.com/static/pictures/_old/11528.jpg)Soldiers wearing prayer shawls and phylacteries while praying the morning service in the field prior to resuming their training.
(http://www.israelnationalnews.com/static/pictures/_old/11529.jpg)The "Netzach Yehuda" ("Eternity of Judah") unit includes many young men who made Aliyah (immigrated to Israel) in order to join the IDF.
(http://www.israelnationalnews.com/static/pictures/_old/11530.jpg)The "Netzach Yehuda" unit has captured scores of wanted terrorists and is reknowned for its extremely high level of motivation.
(http://www.israelnationalnews.com/static/pictures/_old/11535.jpg)
The standards of Kosher certification of the food in Nachal Hareidi, and the all-male setting are designed to enable Hareidi-religious Jєωs to join the IDF.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/84454 (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/84454)
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Members of an IDF haredi unit pray in March 2007.
IDF's fervently Orthodox unit
is seeking a few good men
By Tom Tugend Published: 04/30/2007
An Israeli infantry battalion of fervently Orthodox soldiers plans to launch an advertising campaign this summer in major Jєωιѕн newspapers in the United States and Britain seeking more foreign recruits ...
"I love the fact that I can fully live out my Jєωιѕн values while at the same time protecting Israel," Taylor says ...
Theoretically, any man -- no women, of course -- who meets these basic criteria can join the battalion, but in practice some 70 percent come from fervently Orthodox homes in Bnei Brak and other haredi enclaves.
Time is set aside for daily тαℓмυd study and the food is glatt kosher. No women are allowed on the Jordan Valley base, but on Shabbat married soldiers can meet their wives outside the base.
"Nahal Haredi has the highest proportion of Diaspora volunteers of any Israeli unit," Klebanow said. "They come to us with high motivation, and many subsequently make aliyah. Sometimes they are more Zionistic than native-born Israelis." ...
"Our enemies learn one way, and the one and only way is through the language of war and the language of the sword."
http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/news/article/20070430idfharedicampaign.html (http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/news/article/20070430idfharedicampaign.html)
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(http://civilwarclipart.com/Clipartgallery/images/IDF_prayer.jpg)
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Lubavitchers get involved in 2006 IDF brutality against Lebanon
Chabad House types. Wouldn't surprize me at all. Just remember what they have in mind for the Protestant Jєωs for Jesus should the Sanhedrin ever be re-established by those promoting a Third Temple.
But, Maurice, you just don't understand. There are a lot of factions, here. Some are very radical, somewhat like yourself. Others are more composed, and willing to abide by international law, are willing just to abide by conscience.
Yet you never seem to find fault with those who ATTACK Israel. And the questions have been put to you about that. And you're nowhere.
What do you have to say?
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Yet you never seem to find fault with those who ATTACK Israel.
You're a crazy person with no sense of proportion. My job is not to assist the mainstream media behemoth in reporting and magnifying every possible perceivable wrong suffered by "Israel" (and many fabricated wrongs besides). I'm one little guy with an internet connection trying to reach people with the information that the establishment is keeping hidden from them
All future such ridiculous demands from you will be ignored.
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Chabad House types. Wouldn't surprize me at all.
It shouldn't surprise anyone. But here you are defending the Israeli military which has allowed Chabadniks into a military zone as they're launching an attack. This is clear evidence that the тαℓмυd is not separate from the IDF as you disingenuously imply.
Furthermore, if by some strange twist of fate some European nation, Spain, for instance, launched a military invasion on "Israel" and pictures surfaced of Catholic priests in military zones dancing with Spanish soldiers as they launched shells which they had previously autographed towards "Israel" you know damn well that the earth would quake, the images would be emblazoned into the psyche of everyone in the world who opened any given magazine or newspaper or watched any given news program or talk show. It would be lamented as a "new Crusade," a "new Inquisition," a "new h0Ɩ0cαųst" of "the Jєωs." The weeping and wailing would be deafening. But when "the Jєωs" do it, there's nothing to see there ...
You have no sense of proportion in your thinking whatsoever.
You live in a world where a katusha rocket launched into "Israel"
leaving a black mark on the ground is equivalent to a US supplied Israeli F-16 dropping laser guided bombs onto an apartment building full of people in crowded city. You're literally crazy.
If you are a sincere Catholic, (in the event that my intuition is incorrect), I would recommend that you unplug your television and throw it into the nearest dumpster. Throw your copy of "Shindler's List" in the trash. It's full of lies. You need to be deprogrammed.
Your's is not a valid perspective worthy of thoughtful consideration anymore than the perspective of NAMBLA is. I've wasted too much time on it already.
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The fact that you attempt to sell your perspective as perfectly consistent with traditional Catholicism is the most insane aspect of it all.
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Watch video of IDF soldiers in uniform dancing around with a "Torah" scroll at the Western Wall.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoTerrLSnM8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoTerrLSnM8)
Honestly, the insinuation that the military of a nation that calls itself "Israel" is non-religious is so absurd as to defy imagination.
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(http://clarityandresolve.com/idf-purim1.jpg)
Israeli Soldiers eating "Haman's ears" the traditional pastry of the Judaic festival of Vengeance, Purim
These pastries are eaten as a common dish by all those living in the Middle East - Jєωs, Muslims, and Christians. They are filled either with meat or spinach. The spinach ones are one of my favorite dishes that my Granny used to make all the time. So, the fact that these soldiers are eating them does not mean that they are celebrating the festival of Vengeance, Purim.
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Video--IDF Soldier: "Palestinians are Animals"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTb-9MGndik (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTb-9MGndik)
For background on this sick bastard's racial supremacism see Babylonian тαℓмυd Yebamoth 98a, Kerithoth 6b, Berakoth 58a, Baba Mezia 114b.
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Some people might condemn the Book of Esther as a glorification of Jєωιѕн vengefulness.
h0Ɩ0cαųst deniers and anti-Judaics are always trying to make themselves out to be the children of Pure Truth and upholders of Just the Facts.
Showing a picture of two smiling Jєωιѕн lads eating traditional holiday cuisine on what is called "the Jєωιѕн Feast of Vengeance" in this context of Israeli misdeeds is just going out of one's way to find evil in one's neighbor.
Our neighbor may have his serious flaws and may deserve all sorts or rebuke and opposition. But it is still gravely sinful to make him out to be worse than he is and to conjure up pretexts on which to rend one's garments if he says the sky is blue.
Is Esther a Jєωιѕн book of vengeance? Why not say that Purim is also the Jєωιѕн feast of honoring the Lord God for the wondrous manner in which He protected His people in their exile?
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So, the fact that these soldiers are eating them does not mean that they are celebrating the festival of Vengeance, Purim.
The original caption for the photo read: "More than 600,000 'Oznei Haman' - also known as Hamentashen - are being distributed to IDF soldiers throughout Israel. These Givati Brigade soldiers, stationed in a lookout in Gaza, took a few moments to enjoy the traditional Purim pastries." The photo was part of an article titled "Inside the IDF Photo Essay: Purim in the IDF"
I encourage you to refer to the source of the photo and caption which is the website of the Israeli newspaper, Arutz Sheva:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/78941 (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/78941)
Hamantashen is a triangular-shaped, filled pastry which is traditionally served on Purim ... In Hebrew, the pastry is called "Oznei Haman" which means Haman's ears.
http://judaism.about.com/od/purim/a/purimfood.htm (http://judaism.about.com/od/purim/a/purimfood.htm)
I have not misrepresented the photo in any way whatsoever.
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And now, ladies and gentlemen, for our next magic trick, we shall post repulsive photos of the heads of decapitated gefilte fish and write underneath, "What The Jєωs Cause in This World."
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Why not say that Purim is also the Jєωιѕн feast of honoring the Lord God for the wondrous manner in which He protected His people in their exile?
Because that would be a diabolical conflation of the тαℓмυdic interpretation of Esther with the Christian interpretation.
I recommend the book Reckless Rites, Purim and the Legacy of Jєωιѕн Violence, by Elliot Horowitz.
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(http://www.israelnationalnews.com/static/pictures/_old/10622.jpg)
A Givati Brigade soldier takes a break from his lookout overlooking Gaza to enjoy the traditional Purim pastries said to resemble the ears, or hat, of the evil Haman. ("Inside the IDF Photo Essay: Purim in the IDF," Arutz Sheva, 03/23/05)
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/78941 (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/78941)
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Why not say that Purim is also the Jєωιѕн feast of honoring the Lord God for the wondrous manner in which He protected His people in their exile?
Because that would be a diabolical conflation of the тαℓмυdic interpretation of Esther with the Christian interpretation.
I recommend the book Reckless Rites, Purim and the Legacy of Jєωιѕн Violence, by Elliot Horowitz.
No, it would not be. The Jєωs in exile were God's People and He protected them and punished their enemies. That is the literal sense of the Book of Esther, common to Jєωs and Christians.
If we want to say that the joke is on The Jєωs who celebrate Purim now because they are no longer God's People and could easily end up being punished for all eternity for not believing the Gospel, that is a different matter.
But we have no call to speak of Purim only as a feast of Jєωιѕн vengeance. Purim is also a feast of belief in God's saving interventions in the affairs of His people.
We should pray that all Jєωιѕн celebrate the next Passover in Jerusalem. I mean, the New Jerusalem. Mystically, by dint of Christian faith. Then we shall have nice photos of these two lads eating hot cross buns, not misrepresented in any way.
Is Horowitz's book fair and balanced, or unfair and unbalanced, like your posts here?
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The Judaic festival of vengeance, Purim, is very important to the IDF as this article from the IDF website reveals:
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The Purim Elite
01 March 2007 , 20:14
During the Purim festival, the Rabbinate of the 91st formation will travel together with citizens of the north of Israel, Yeshiva students, and Chabad Hassids, to the various positions of the command, in order to spread the spirit of the holiday, and its traditions. "When we see the great happiness that we give the soldiers-it makes it all worthwhile"
By Pinhas Wolf, Bamahane
The "Book of Esther Caravan" will visit various military positions in the Northern Command during the Purim holiday. While the concept was conceived five years ago, this is the first year in which the initiative will be put into practice on a wider scale.
In the days prior to the holiday, the military rabbinate belonging to Division 91 distributed copies of the Book of Esther, written on cards and pieces of paper, to all of the army's manned positions and bases in the northern sector.
Prior to the rabbinate's distribution drive to all the units, soldiers in the rabbinate placed the relevant phone numbers in each ѕуηαgσgυє of all bases in the north so that soldiers on the base could contact them to set up a date. Then the rabbinate could send the caravan, which would read the Book of Esther at a convenient time.
The initiative and its execution falls under the responsibility of the rabbi of Division 91, Major Asher Cohen. The effort was a collaborative one which included rabbis in the northern sector, yeshiva students who volunteered to spread holiday cheer, and followers of Chabad who will also provide music to lift the spirits of the soldiers.
Residents of the north are also taking part in the operation, including those from towns such as Safed, Kiryat Shmona, Nahariya, and Ma'alot Tarshiha.
"In the last year, in light of the tensions in the north, we couldn't get to all the army positions," Rabbi Cohen said. "Nonetheless, people wanted to help, and the minute that they were able to, people immediately went to bring joy to the soldiers. When we see the great joy on the soldiers' faces, it's worth everything."
http://dover.idf.il/IDF/English/News/holiday/2007/march/0103.htm (http://dover.idf.il/IDF/English/News/holiday/2007/march/0103.htm)
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Is Horowitz's book fair and balanced, or unfair and unbalanced, like your posts here?
Approaching issues in a "balanced" manner is not a Catholic virtue. It's Kabbalistic. Seeking the truth is the Catholic ideal. Horowitz's book is truthful and that is why I recommend it.
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You say that it is truthful? Then it must be a pack of lies. Thanks for the warning.
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Is Horowitz's book fair and balanced, or unfair and unbalanced, like your posts here?
Approaching issues in a "balanced" manner is not a Catholic virtue. It's Kabbalistic. Seeking the truth is the Catholic ideal. Horowitz's book is truthful and that is why I recommend it.
So now it is "Catholic" to approach issues in an unbalanced manner.
Now maintaining balance in complex historical and political matters is incompatible with seeking truth.
No, this is just a nαzι advocate whose only "truth" is that The Jєωs are THE Evil Ones in this world and in history.
Kabbalistic? Boy, you like your plots to be as colorful as you can make them. In my day fanatics of a certain feather were content to say that it was LIBERAL to approach issues in a balanced manner. (Notice how you forgot about fairness.)
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Now maintaining balance in complex historical and political matters is incompatible with seeking truth.
You're getting Fox News mixed up with Catholicism you poor fool. There is no Catholic tradition of "maintaining balance when dealing with complex issues." The Catholic tradition is to seek the truth, period.
You're mind is apparently infected with the Kabbalistic dialectic, or call it the Hegelian dialectic if you like. In any case, you should acquaint yourself with the topic. It may be the beginning of the process of becoming sane for you.
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I would have corrected "you're" with "your" in the above posting if I had the ability to edit my posts, like everyone else here.
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Now maintaining balance in complex historical and political matters is incompatible with seeking truth.
You're getting Fox News mixed up with Catholicism you poor fool. There is no Catholic tradition of "maintaining balance when dealing with complex issues." The Catholic tradition is to seek the truth, period.
You're mind is apparently infected with the Kabbalistic dialectic, or call it the Hegelian dialectic if you like. In any case, you should acquaint yourself with the topic. It may be the beginning of the process of becoming sane for you.
"Balance" and "balanced" are not dirty words. There is nothing wrong with them. They have perfectly fine dictionary definitions. There is nothing "Kabbalistic" or Sadducean or Massoretic or Sephardic or Yiddish -or Hegelian-about being balanced and seeking to be balanced in the way one sizes up historical facts.
I don't know anything about Fox News. I hardly ever watch anything on TV.
It is ridiculously parochial to speak of there being a CATHOLIC tradition of seeking the truth or being balanced. Seeking the truth is something all men can and should do. There is no "Catholic" about it.
There is no "Catholic" tradition about covering one's mouth when one sneezes.
Or, we could say in reply that there is a Catholic tradition of explaining away and covering up unpleasant or supposedly scandalous facts in the name of protecting the reputation of Holy Mother Church.
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There is definitely a problem with the "balance" that you're peddling.
You imply that I need to "balance" my commentary by also "telling the other side of the story." But the other side of the story is being told, loud and clear. Indeed, it's being blown out of all proportion by the establishment media and shoved down the throat of every person unfortunate enough to be within it's grasp. Yet, they're not telling the side of the story that I'm telling except, perhaps, in rare instances in a blurb buried someplace on page 36, but certainly not in any detail.
What I'm attempting to do, little old me with my computer and an internet connection, is to compensate for the lack of fairness in the reporting of the establishment media, and if I kept telling my side of the story 24 hours a day for the rest of my life that would'nt even begin to compensate for the establishment media's lack of fairness or "balance" as you would call it. But you hold me responsible for reporting what the establishment is already amplifying to every corner of the world while they simultaneously ignore the side I represent?
That's not balance in any sense of the word. What it is is "balance" in the Kabbalistic sense. It's a monumental fraud. It's a parlor trick on a grand scale.
You have no sense of proportion, and your "balance" is a farce.
The recently published book, Israel-Palestine On Record: How the New York Times Misreports Conflict in the Middle East by Howard Friel and Richard Falk is quite relevant here. Also highly recommended is the Israeli h0Ɩ0cαųst against the Palestinians by Michael A. Hoffman and Moshe Lieberman.
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I never said that anyone who condemns Israeli actions is obliged to present the other side of the story.
I don't even think that I actually said that there is another side of the story.
But there always is.
And there is always MORE to the story, too.
Take the story about the Israeli kids who wrote nasty things about other peoples considered hostile by their Lawful Superiors on missiles pointed at those supposed national foes . I suspect that there was more to that story than anyone here has let on. I think that a little bit of research on that story will show some of the Elders of Zion in a favorable light.
To leave out that part of the story would be dishonest and show malice.
I think that I am going to be able to show that some Israelis were appalled by those nasty messages and said so publicly.
It may even be be that we would never have learned about that story had they not done so.
At BEST what we are dealing with here is anti-"Judaic" advocacy. And we all know the absurd way in which shrewd lawyers twist everything in favor of their clients. THEY are not supposed to grant anything to "the others side" just to be fair and balanced.
The question remains why anyone would see himself as The Advocate Against The Jєωs.
I have found that critics of Israel who use words like "Judaics" are always untruthful and unbalanced.
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THE NEW YORK TIMES is very faithful about reporting alleged misdeeds and atrocities committed by Israel.
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Two wrongs don't make a right.
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THE NEW YORK TIMES is very faithful about reporting alleged misdeeds and atrocities committed by Israel.
At this point I will stop interfering with the hatchet job you're doing on yourself.
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Glad to see you go.
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THE NEW YORK TIMES.
That neo-conservative rag.
That reactionary rag.
That liberal rag.
That Establishment rag.
So pro-Israel. So anti-Israel.
In any case, it reports on Israel misdeeds and gets taken to task for the way in which it does so by some supporters of Israel.
The media loved JPII, the sedevacantists said accusingly.
The media hated him, wailed his conservative children.
The media loved him, chirped his more moderate children, who think it it great that the Church gets along so nicely with the World these days.
So let's just say that everyone on earth is psychotic and doing a hatchet job on himself.
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THE NEW YORK TIMES.
That neo-conservative rag.
That reactionary rag.
That liberal rag.
That Establishment rag.
So pro-Israel. So anti-Israel.
Anti-Israel, and very much a mouthpiece of the leftist establishment. See mrc.org if you have any further doubts.
The media loved JPII, the sedevacantists said accusingly.
You mean, Catholics? Yes, the media loved Paul VI, too. They were prepared to hate the 'nαzι Pope', until it turned out he was just JPIII, by another name.
They loved the fake Popes, because they WEREN'T Catholic. You can't imagine the public calumnies that a Pope St. Pius X would receive were he around today from the likes of not just the Roman Protestant press, but the NY Times, LA Times, Wash Post, AP, NBC, MSNBC, CNN (maybe), ABC, etc.
So let's just say that everyone on earth is psychotic
That the Williamson thesis, perhaps. People have made a crazy decision to spurn Christendom. But I believe they are culpable, and knew what they were doing - and still do.
What the NY Times does is sick, in one sense, but they are responsible for their promotions, for their spin, nonetheless.
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Video: "Israel" "Defense" Forces celebrate Purim:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5351398090740930143&q=idf+purim&total=3&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5351398090740930143&q=idf+purim&total=3&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2)
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