Caraffa,
These types will run a few quick Google searches to find historical opinions that jibe with their ideology and "voila" they are then "backed up by history" and appear credible.
The arguments you quoted are the types of arguments I'd expect to see from liberal who want to justify the evils of our culture, not Traditionalists. This merely reinforces my premise that Neo-Trads are truly liberals under a veneer of "Tradition". They despise the 50's, the middle ages, and any era which is seen to represent patriarchal authority or sɛҳuąƖ moral restraint.
The Neo-Trad is a revolutionary who wants to transform and thus destroy the Traditional movement from within. They are the Trojan Horse, the 5th column within Tradition.