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Title: Rabbi says, gαy Jєωs have higher souls than any gentile
Post by: Croix de Fer on January 02, 2014, 07:21:53 PM
gαy Jєωs have 'higher souls' than gentiles, says deputy minister

link (http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/1.566021)

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ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ Jєωs have "higher souls" than gentiles, gαy or straight, the deputy minister for religious services told the Israeli daily Maariv in an article published on Friday.

Even so, he would oppose any same-sex marriage bill, just as he would oppose marriage between a Jєω and a gentile, said Rabbi Eli Ben Dahan, a member of the right-wing Habayit Hayehudi party.

Same-sex marriage is "unnatural," the rabbi politician added, saying that "it is natural that the world wants continuity through relations between a man and a woman."

Ben Dahan spoke out just as his his party and the Yesh Atid party reached a compromise, paving the way for passage of a preliminary bill in the Knesset offering tax breaks for same-sex parents.

The written deal between the two coalition partners has been kept under wraps but it is expected the bill will be shelved and that equivalent tax credits will be implemented through Finance Ministry regulations rather than legislation.

Ben Dahan, who was absent from the Knesset vote, said he does not want to persecute gαys, but that his opposition for the bill stems from his commitment to Israel's Jєωιѕн nature.

"I have to keep the state Jєωιѕн. Things to contradict the values, culture or tradition will not receive a stamp of approval," he said.
Title: Rabbi says, gαy Jєωs have higher souls than any gentile
Post by: crossbro on January 03, 2014, 10:45:47 AM

I wonder how many of these ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ Jєωs El Rabbi would let babysit his children ?

Title: Rabbi says, gαy Jєωs have higher souls than any gentile
Post by: DominvsSabaoth on January 03, 2014, 12:36:00 PM
 This is the state the holy land is in.  It's controlled by the wretched Jєωs
Title: Rabbi says, gαy Jєωs have higher souls than any gentile
Post by: Capt McQuigg on January 03, 2014, 01:57:24 PM
The guys disapproves very strongly of gαy Jєωs, he just thinks gentiles are even lower than gαy Jєωs.  A Jєω is required to insult gentiles if he is going to say something unflattering about his fellow Jєωs.

Once you understand this, everything else falls into place.

Title: Rabbi says, gαy Jєωs have higher souls than any gentile
Post by: crossbro on January 04, 2014, 12:37:42 AM

Don't forget to buy that $25 food basket for the starving in the Holy Land, the Jєωs cannot afford to feed the poor in their own country because they are spending all our tax dollars fighting terrorism.
Title: Rabbi says, gαy Jєωs have higher souls than any gentile
Post by: Capt McQuigg on January 04, 2014, 01:59:15 AM
I think, instead of fretting over the hatred Jєωιѕн people feel toward non-Jєωs (and it's solidified in their theology) we should also feel repulsed toward protestants who are always acting the role of shabbos goy toward Christ haters!

Title: Rabbi says, gαy Jєωs have higher souls than any gentile
Post by: Neil Obstat on January 04, 2014, 02:59:07 AM
Quote from: crossbro

Don't forget to buy that $25 food basket for the starving in the Holy Land, the Jєωs cannot afford to feed the poor in their own country because they are spending all our tax dollars fighting terrorism.

 
The Mossad IS the terrorist organization.  They're not 'fighting' terrorism, they're perpetrating it.  They don't feed the poor in their own country because they're too CHEAP and they know if they WHINE enough, someone else will do it.  Oy!  Veh!

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Title: Rabbi says, gαy Jєωs have higher souls than any gentile
Post by: JPaul on January 05, 2014, 01:56:51 PM
Quote from: crossbro

Don't forget to buy that $25 food basket for the starving in the Holy Land, the Jєωs cannot afford to feed the poor in their own country because they are spending all our tax dollars fighting terrorism.


And building holocost museums in every town and village.
Title: Rabbi says, gαy Jєωs have higher souls than any gentile
Post by: Charlemagne on January 05, 2014, 04:06:02 PM
I just saw my sister today. She's an "evangelical," and we were discussing with whom to keep company. I said, "I won't associate with Jєωs." She laughed and said, "That's terrible!" I asked her if she'd associate with muzzies, to which she responded, "No way!" I asked, "What's the difference? They both deny Christ and hate Christians." No response. THAT is the mystifying "evangelical" mindset at work.
Title: Rabbi says, gαy Jєωs have higher souls than any gentile
Post by: crossbro on January 05, 2014, 05:08:00 PM
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I won't associate with Jєωs


Jesus is a Jєω and so is his mother.

I get what you mean though.
Title: Rabbi says, gαy Jєωs have higher souls than any gentile
Post by: Capt McQuigg on January 05, 2014, 07:41:00 PM
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I won't associate with Jєωs


Jesus is a Jєω and so is his mother.

I get what you mean though.


If this is your response, are you going to convert?  

If so, do the Orthodox three year route and not the worthless Reform route.  
Title: Rabbi says, gαy Jєωs have higher souls than any gentile
Post by: Mithrandylan on January 05, 2014, 07:50:54 PM
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I won't associate with Jєωs


Jesus is a Jєω and so is his mother.

I get what you mean though.


"Is?"

Whatever do you mean?
Title: Rabbi says, gαy Jєωs have higher souls than any gentile
Post by: Capt McQuigg on January 05, 2014, 08:05:19 PM
To remain Jєωιѕн in the Celtic sense and in a cultural sense after the Resurrection of Our Lord is to deny Our Lord.

To remain Jєωιѕн to this day, while admirable in the putrid tenacity, is to order your life in opposition to Our Lord.

The traditional Catholic view, any my view, is that Our Lord rose a people unto Himself to prepare a way for His arrival.  In short, they were intended as a prepatory people.  Holy satchel-carriers.  They had a pedestrian ministry and they claimed more than was meant for them.  

There is no connection to the contemporary people, who despise Our Lord, and the Jєωs of the Old Testament who prayed through angonised tears of longing for the coming of the Messiah.  To think otherwise is to harbor a doubt of Our Lord, at least in some measure, in your own heart.
Title: Rabbi says, gαy Jєωs have higher souls than any gentile
Post by: crossbro on January 05, 2014, 09:29:12 PM
Quote from: Capt McQuigg
To remain Jєωιѕн in the Celtic sense and in a cultural sense after the Resurrection of Our Lord is to deny Our Lord.

To remain Jєωιѕн to this day, while admirable in the putrid tenacity, is to order your life in opposition to Our Lord.

The traditional Catholic view, any my view, is that Our Lord rose a people unto Himself to prepare a way for His arrival.  In short, they were intended as a prepatory people.  Holy satchel-carriers.  They had a pedestrian ministry and they claimed more than was meant for them.  

There is no connection to the contemporary people, who despise Our Lord, and the Jєωs of the Old Testament who prayed through angonised tears of longing for the coming of the Messiah.  To think otherwise is to harbor a doubt of Our Lord, at least in some measure, in your own heart.


You mad, bro ?

I ain't mad, bro.

In Jєωιѕн orthodoxy, if your mother is Jєωιѕн, then you are Jєωιѕн.

Jesus is Jєωιѕн in the same way I am Irish Italian.

The apostles were/are Jєωsih- the Christian Jєωs remained in the ѕуηαgσgυєs until about 70AD until they were excommunicated.

Jesus is true God and true man, and he is Jєωιѕн.
Title: Rabbi says, gαy Jєωs have higher souls than any gentile
Post by: IllyricumSacrum on January 05, 2014, 11:21:04 PM
Quote from: crossbro
Quote from: Capt McQuigg
To remain Jєωιѕн in the Celtic sense and in a cultural sense after the Resurrection of Our Lord is to deny Our Lord.

To remain Jєωιѕн to this day, while admirable in the putrid tenacity, is to order your life in opposition to Our Lord.

The traditional Catholic view, any my view, is that Our Lord rose a people unto Himself to prepare a way for His arrival.  In short, they were intended as a prepatory people.  Holy satchel-carriers.  They had a pedestrian ministry and they claimed more than was meant for them.  

There is no connection to the contemporary people, who despise Our Lord, and the Jєωs of the Old Testament who prayed through angonised tears of longing for the coming of the Messiah.  To think otherwise is to harbor a doubt of Our Lord, at least in some measure, in your own heart.


You mad, bro ?

I ain't mad, bro.

In Jєωιѕн orthodoxy, if your mother is Jєωιѕн, then you are Jєωιѕн.

Jesus is Jєωιѕн in the same way I am Irish Italian.

The apostles were/are Jєωsih- the Christian Jєωs remained in the ѕуηαgσgυєs until about 70AD until they were excommunicated.

Jesus is true God and true man, and he is Jєωιѕн.


But not a Finno-Turkic/Mongol-Slavonic Khazar (oh, snap!)
Title: Rabbi says, gαy Jєωs have higher souls than any gentile
Post by: Capt McQuigg on January 06, 2014, 11:13:05 AM
Quote from: crossbro
Quote from: Capt McQuigg
To remain Jєωιѕн in the Celtic sense and in a cultural sense after the Resurrection of Our Lord is to deny Our Lord.

To remain Jєωιѕн to this day, while admirable in the putrid tenacity, is to order your life in opposition to Our Lord.

The traditional Catholic view, any my view, is that Our Lord rose a people unto Himself to prepare a way for His arrival.  In short, they were intended as a prepatory people.  Holy satchel-carriers.  They had a pedestrian ministry and they claimed more than was meant for them.  

There is no connection to the contemporary people, who despise Our Lord, and the Jєωs of the Old Testament who prayed through angonised tears of longing for the coming of the Messiah.  To think otherwise is to harbor a doubt of Our Lord, at least in some measure, in your own heart.


You mad, bro ?

I ain't mad, bro.

In Jєωιѕн orthodoxy, if your mother is Jєωιѕн, then you are Jєωιѕн.

Jesus is Jєωιѕн in the same way I am Irish Italian.

The apostles were/are Jєωsih- the Christian Jєωs remained in the ѕуηαgσgυєs until about 70AD until they were excommunicated.

Jesus is true God and true man, and he is Jєωιѕн.


I know (to the best of my knowledge) that you aren't embracing any falsehoods, nor encouraging others, and that your comment really meant that we shouldn't shun Jєωs for the fun of shunning them but I do want to be clear in all of this.  

First, in all forms of Judaism if your mother is Jєωιѕн so are you, not just the Chabad types.

We don't want to mix apples and oranges here.  Judaism post-Resurrection and post-destruction of the second temple is based on holding on to their role as messenger when the message was delivered, so in that regard Judaism is vanity based.  The vast majority of Jєωs are not Torah observant but they proudly proclaim their disbelief in Our Lord.  A Jєωιѕн person can renounce his belief in HaShem and this will be okay, but if a Jєωιѕн person tells his family that he believes in Jesus Christ, it's likely he will be kicked out and they will sit Shiva on him (a seven day long rite of mourning - but often shortened for "apostates").

The danger of saying that Jesus was a Jєω is that it leads to thinking that Jesus "came" "from" the Jєωιѕн people when it is exactly the opposite that is true.  

Our Lord is the creator of Judaism so to limit Him to Judaism is a road I would not take, it's a road He took and a road He ended.  I played that game (of wondering why since Jesus was Jєωιѕн why don't we also do Jєωιѕн things) for a long time but have come to see it as a deception.  In no apparition that I can think of did Our Lord tell us to embrace Judaism as a means of salvation.  

As for the Jєωs who were followers of Christ, they were actually expelled from the ѕуηαgσgυєs by Gamaliel's son (or, some historians believe, Gamaliel's grandson) and when they were expelled the Jєωιѕн leaders informed the Roman authorities that these followers of Our Lord were practicing an illegal sect.  That is the start of the persecutions of the early Christians and just like Jєωs are behind the push for abortion laws, they were behind the push for the persecution of Christians in the first centuries.  

I think we can safely trust the path that Catholic Church has taken over the last two thousand years.  There have been no apparitions of Our Lord nor of Our Lady telling us to embrace the Jєωιѕн people - we are to convert them.  If they refuse and insist on denying Our Lord, well, we warned them.  

It was actually St. Catherine of Sienna who helped me disown the whole nonsensical belief that Jesus was part of the Jєωιѕн people.  Our Lord, as Catholic Tradition tells us, married her.  Literally.  She's His bride.  Since post-resurrection Jєωs despise non-Jєωs then why didn't Our Lord have her convert first?  He didn't.  

Jesus is God.  To become man he first created the Jєωιѕн people so there would be a group of people who at least tried to cleanse themselves and make atonements.  St Paul describes the Jєωs as the first chosen to receive the presence of Our Lord but it wasn't revealed to him that it was Our Lady who was the first to receive Him.  Our Lady was the perfect Israel - she didn't wrestle with God she humbly accepted His way.  I say she "was" because she "now" is the Mother of God and the Queen of Heaven and Earth.  

To continue in this line of reasoning I want to mention that I saw a vulgar sign outside of a protestant building referring to Jesus as the Perfect Israel and I shook my head because I doubt I could make the people understand how blasphemous their sign really was....   ...because Jesus is God and He is the Creator of the Jєωιѕн people and He is the Author of the Torah.