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Offline Mark 79

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Prots and Mary
« on: October 06, 2021, 12:37:30 AM »
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  • Are you tired of typing lengthy rebuttals to Prots who rage about Mary?





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    Re: Prots and Mary
    « Reply #1 on: October 06, 2021, 05:10:36 AM »
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  • Very good.  Protestants just get wigged out at the thought that we are going to anyone in heaven other than the Triune God in prayer, or that we are praising anyone other than God.  They have no problem with asking others in this life to pray for us, nor in praising one another, either in this life or in the next, for "how good they are" (or were).  Bottom line, they're fearful of polytheism.

    Not saying they are right, just speaking as someone who was raised around such people, and I know how they think.  They're not bad people, they're just mistaken, material heretics, with everything that goes with that.

    In my particular upbringing, it made me gag to see people go around praising other people constantly.  There's a long streak of obsession with "respectability" and outward moral rectitude in Protestantism, and they get miffed when someone broaches the notion that they, too, could sin, or that someone might possibly not go straight to heaven when they die.  They will always chime in "well, they're in a better place now".  I feel like saying "yes, that is true, once you die, regardless of where you go, you can't sin anymore, nor is there any doubt as to what is true and what is not", but obviously that's not what they have in mind.  All Protestant funerals are canonization ceremonies, and in actual practice, Newchurch people think the same way.


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    Re: Prots and Mary
    « Reply #2 on: October 06, 2021, 05:14:26 AM »
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  • You nailed that!

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    Re: Prots and Mary
    « Reply #3 on: October 06, 2021, 07:49:05 AM »
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  • You nailed that!
    I did my time in the Bible Belt.  Though I was not brought up to go to church, nor to believe in much of anything --- thank God I was a blank slate with few errors to unlearn! --- I know these people backwards and forwards, I can tell you what they're going to say, before they even open up their mouths.

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    Re: Prots and Mary
    « Reply #4 on: October 06, 2021, 09:10:14 AM »
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  • That is an awesome graphic, Mark.

    It could not only bring more honor to Mary (and help Catholics defend themselves), but it might even help make some conversions!

    Apologetics resources are a very good thing.
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    Re: Prots and Mary
    « Reply #5 on: October 06, 2021, 09:43:41 AM »
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  • I did my time in the Bible Belt.  Though I was not brought up to go to church, nor to believe in much of anything --- thank God I was a blank slate with few errors to unlearn! --- I know these people backwards and forwards, I can tell you what they're going to say, before they even open up their mouths.
    Kind of similar to me here in the Midwest. My biggest exposure to religion was a few years where my mom took us to a Methodist church. So, mild enough not to make a lasting bias
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Prots and Mary
    « Reply #6 on: October 08, 2021, 01:34:42 PM »
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  • I've gotten through to Prots by explaining the Hail Mary.

    1. The first half is based on two Bible scriptures.

    2. The second half is just like asking a friend to pray for you.


    Also, many of them have Nativity sets and I ask them if they worship it. I ask them if they have photos of their loved ones and if they worship them. Of course they say no and I explain neither do we worship images.
    Pray for the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary

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    Re: Prots and Mary
    « Reply #7 on: October 08, 2021, 03:08:15 PM »
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  • As far as the rebuttals to protestants about Mary like the one posted above, I believe they grosly underestimate the real importance of our Blessed Mother as far as Her being Co-redemptress, Mediatrix of all Graces, etc. They seem to put Mary on the same level of asking a friend or family member to pray for you. Mary's a lot more than that. I realize protestants may not be ready for all that so some try to start "simple" and meet them where they are, but I thought I'd bring this up considering the modernists love to deemphasize the importance of Mary. Again, rebuttals like the one the O.P. posted might be good for a protestant who knows nothing about the Catholic faith as a starting point, but that's not nearly enough in my opinion for classes or instruction for new converts and the like.
    Our Lady of La Salette, pray for us!