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Re: Pope Francis' Converstions with the Jesuits
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2018, 04:23:47 AM »
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    • Holy Father, I wonder why you always find time to visit the Jesuits during your travels. And another question: What are the three important things that a Jesuit can do for the people of this country, for the Church in Myanmar?
    The reason why I always meet the Jesuits is to not forget that I am a missionary and that I must convert sinners! (The pope thus provoked those present to laugh.) As for the question, I like your use of the word “Church.” Ignatius cared deeply for feeling with the Church, for feeling in the Church. And this also requires discernment. But we must be close to the hierarchy. And if I do not agree with what the bishop says, I must have the parrhesia to go and talk to him with courage and dialogue. And eventually obey. Remember St. Ignatius when Gian Pietro Carafa, Pope Paul IV, was elected. When he was asked what would happen to him if the pope were to dissolve the Society, I believe St. Ignatius replied that with a little prayer he would have fixed everything. And he would have remained in peace. But one cannot think of the Society of Jesus as a parallel Church, or a sub-Church. We all belong to the holy and sinful Church. We belong to the Church in joy and sadness. We have examples of great Jesuits who felt crucified by the Church of their time and kept their mouths shut. Let’s think of Cardinal De Lubac, to name one. And many others I would say: Be men of the Church. When the Society gets into the orbit of self-sufficiency, it stops being the Society of Jesus.

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    Re: Pope Francis' Converstions with the Jesuits
    « Reply #16 on: February 02, 2018, 02:28:06 AM »
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    • A serious problem here is fundamentalism. I come from a region where there are many tensions with Muslims. I wonder how you can take care of people who have this tendency toward fundamentalism. What do you feel about this, visiting our country?
    Look, there are fundamentalisms everywhere. And we Catholics have “the honor” of having fundamentalists among the baptized. I think it would be interesting if some of you who are preparing for graduation were to study the roots of fundamentalism. It is an attitude of the soul that stands as a judge of others and of those who share their religion. It is a going to the essential – a claim to be going to the essential – of religion, but to such an extent as to forget what is existential. It forgets the consequences. Fundamentalist attitudes take different forms, but they have the common background of underlining the essential so much that they deny the existential. The fundamentalist denies history, denies the person. And Christian fundamentalism denies the Incarnation.

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    Re: Pope Francis' Converstions with the Jesuits
    « Reply #17 on: February 05, 2018, 11:41:13 PM »
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    • The meeting concluded in a festive atmosphere with the “Salve Regina” and then with personal greetings and photographs.
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    Re: Pope Francis' Converstions with the Jesuits
    « Reply #18 on: February 09, 2018, 04:32:41 AM »
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    • On the afternoon of December 1, during his visit to Bangladesh, the pope attended an ecuмenical and interreligious meeting for peace together with four religious representatives (a Muslim, a Hindu, a Buddhist, a Catholic) and a representative of civil society. The final prayer was recited by an Anglican bishop. Then a group of Rohingya came up onto the stage. The pope welcomed them, listened to their stories, and asked one of them to pray. At the end he went to the Apostolic Nunciature of Dhaka, where 13 Jesuits who carry out their mission in that country were waiting for him in a room, seated in a circle.


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    Re: Pope Francis' Converstions with the Jesuits
    « Reply #19 on: February 10, 2018, 03:59:54 AM »
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    • The superior of the Mission expressed the joy of the Jesuits at having the pope there with them: “We are a group of Jesuits working in Bangladesh. Nine of us are from here, three from India and one from Belgium. God has blessed us and we work here in Bangladesh in three dioceses. The Mission has another 14 scholastics, three juniors and three novices. We work in a house for spiritual exercises and in formation, in parish ministries, in the educational apostolate, and in the service of refugees. The first presence of the Jesuits in this land dates back to the end of the 16th century. In 1600 a church was built, but the following year it was destroyed. After various events we have been back in Bangladesh since 1994, when we were invited by the local Church. Today, you give us the privilege of meeting you. We all feel proud to be Jesuits and we ask for your blessing. Today, I had considered giving a speech, but then I thought better of it: better to have an open conversation.” The pope replied to the greeting by saying:
    The two dates you mentioned have attracted my attention: 1600 and 1994. So for centuries the Jesuits have lived alternating vicissitudes without a stable presence. And that’s okay: the Jesuits live like that too. Fr. Hugo Rahner said that a Jesuit must be a man who is capable of moving while practicing discernment, both in the field of God and in the field of the devil. Your years have been a little like this: a move without stability and a move forward in the light of discernment.

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    Re: Pope Francis' Converstions with the Jesuits
    « Reply #20 on: February 21, 2018, 02:19:52 AM »
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    • Holy Father, thank you for talking about the Rohingya people. They are our brothers and sisters, and you spoke of them in these terms: as brothers and sisters. Our provincial sent two of us to help them …
    Jesus Christ today is called Rohingya. You talk about them as brothers and sisters: They are. I think of St. Peter Claver, who is very dear to me. He worked with the slaves of his time … and to think that some theologians of the time – not so many, thank God – discussed if the slaves had a soul or not! His life was a prophecy, and he helped his brothers and sisters who lived in shameful conditions. But this shame today is not over. Today there is much discussion about how to save the banks. The problem is the salvation of the banks. But who saves the dignity of men and women today? Nobody cares about people in ruins any longer. The devil manages to do this in today’s world. If we had a little sense of reality, this should scandalize us. The media scandal today concerns the banks and not the people. In front of all this we must ask for a grace: to cry. The world has lost the gift of tears. St. Ignatius – who had this experience – asked for the gift of tears. St. Peter Fabre did so too. Once we used to ask for the gift of tears during the Mass. The prayer was: “Lord, you made water flow from the rock, make tears flow from my sinful heart.” The impudence of our world is such that the only solution is to pray and ask for the grace of tears. But this evening, in front of those poor people I met, I felt ashamed! I felt ashamed of myself, for the whole world! Sorry, I’m just trying to share my feelings with you … .

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    Re: Pope Francis' Converstions with the Jesuits
    « Reply #21 on: March 08, 2018, 02:06:57 PM »
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    • Quote from: JezusDeKoning on January 17, 2018, 01:58:05 AM
    In today's world, the Jesuits are incredibly, almost sickeningly liberal and anti-Catholic. Look at any university run by a Jesuit order, which is more university than Catholic. You have the internet. You can do your own research.
    I don't have I-net
    I use someone else's.
    posters here should not automatically assume that everyone knows or has everything she or he does 
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