Author Topic: Poll: Is Geocentrism Necessary to the Faith (Read 22469 times)

klasG4e · « **Reply #50 on:** September 05, 2016, 06:58:35 PM »

OHCA

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I won't suffer listening or reading anymore of his [John Salza's] self promotions.

Well, can't you at least humor me then by listening to the talk. I guarantee you he is not promoting himself in the talk, but rather the traditional teaching of the Roman Catholic Church. I hereby grant you an exemption from my previously assigned homework and you can listen to the talk for fun, not for penance if you want to see it that way. Pleeeeez!

If it helps just remember the old saying of "principles before personalities." Even if you remain convinced he's trying to promote himself keep in mind that he is still giving a well versed talk on the traditional teaching of the Roman Catholic Church.

happenby · « **Reply #51 on:** September 05, 2016, 08:05:29 PM »

Geocetrism is necessary to the Faith because it is the opposite of the lies science is feeding us about God's creation. If we cannot drum up the ooomph to defend creation as it is, we have no business trying to be heard about God.

happenby · « **Reply #52 on:** September 05, 2016, 08:06:30 PM »

Either Geocentrism is truth or it is a lie. There is no in between. And with everything riding on the veracity of the Holy Ghost, everyone best have the right answer.

happenby · « **Reply #53 on:** September 05, 2016, 08:08:59 PM »

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So what's your point?

You do know that if you insinuate an argument implicitly based on flawed logic that it's just as flawed as if you came out and said what you're getting at instead of beating around the bush, don't you?

Sorry for any confusion; none intended.

Soooooo....OK. What don't you get?

Do you believe that a traditional reading of Genesis allows for the Big Bang with Light being created before Earth? If yes, how so? If no, you agree with me.

If you can provide a link to any geocentrists who are on record as supporting the Big Bang please provide me with same. (I'd certainly like to see their reasoning.) Perhaps, you have run across some. As of yet, I have not.

Here is what I don't get:

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On the other hand, the vast majority of heliocentrists, including Christian ones appear to believe in the Big Bang.

So what's your point?

You do know that if you insinuate an argument implicitly based on flawed logic that it's just as flawed as if you came out and said what you're getting at instead of beating around the bush, don't you?

It appears that you are trying to discredit heliocentrists because some of them are also Big Bangers. These are two questions that have absolutely nothing to do with each other. For what it's worth, I am not a Big Banger nor an evolutionist.

All heliocentrists are Big Bangers or they don't know the philosophy behind heliocentrism and think they can marry good and evil.

happenby · « **Reply #54 on:** September 05, 2016, 08:10:37 PM »

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Another one -- a growing number of people today, including some Catholics, are starting to believe in extraterrestrials (UFOs, intelligent life from other planets, solar systems, galaxies), and even time travel.

Really? Name one. I can't.

I've never met a Trad Catholic (and I know a LOT) who believe in aliens. Every Trad I've ever met knows the reality of so-called "aliens" being demons. Honestly, I have never met a Trad who thought there was "life on other planets."

Not to worry, mw2016, he's talking about heliocentrists. Many do believe in aliens but that's because they are infected with globalism.