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Viva Cristo Rey · « **on:** June 27, 2018, 11:09:48 PM »

OPoland's Sunday trading ban takes effect
Catholic church welcomes law that begins with ban on two Sundays a month, extending to all in 2020
Associated Press in Warsaw
Sun 11 Mar 2018 09.58 EDTLast modified on Sun 11 Mar 2018 18.00 EDT

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A Polish law banning almost all trade on Sundays has taken effect, with large supermarkets and most other retailers closed for the first time since liberal shopping laws were introduced in the 1990s after the collapse of communism.
The change is stirring up a range of emotions in a country where some feel workers are exploited but many others see consumer freedom as one of the most tangible benefits of the free market era.
The law was proposed by the trade union Solidarity, which says employees deserve Sundays off, and found the support of the conservative and pro-Catholic ruling party, Law and Justice.
The influential Catholic church, to which more than 90% of Poles belong, has welcomed the change.
The new law at first bans trade on two Sundays per month, rising to three Sundays a month from 2019 and finally all Sundays from 2020, except for seven exceptions before the Easter and Christmas holidays.
Pro-business opposition parties view the change as an attack on commercial freedom and warn that it will lead to a loss of jobs, and in particular hurt students who only have time to work at weekends.
The All-Poland Alliance of Trade Unions also opposes it, arguing that it will push employees to work longer hours on Fridays and Saturdays and that the work will be harder because there will be more customers.
Poles are among the hardest working citizens in the European Union and some complain that Sundays are sometimes the only days they have free time to shop. According to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development, only Greek people put in longer working hours than Poles in the 28-member bloc. The average Polish employee worked 1,928 hours in 2016, according to OECD statistics.
In Hungary, another ex-communist country, a ban on Sunday trade imposed in 2015 was so unpopular that authorities repealed it the next year. Elsewhere in Europe, however, including Germany and Austria, people have long been accustomed to the day of commercial rest and appreciate the push it gives them to escape the compulsion to shop in favour of quality time with family and friends.
Anyone infringing the new rules faces a fine of up to 100,000 zlotys (£21,180), while repeat offenders may face a prison sentence. Solidarity appealed to people to report any violators to the National Labour Inspectorate, a state body.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #1 on:** June 28, 2018, 03:01:00 AM »

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This has GOT to be an obsolete photo. Saturn has been out of business for over 10 years.

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Costorama, KFC and Black Red White -- this is Poland for you.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #2 on:** June 28, 2018, 11:00:10 AM »

We can all do this on our own. No shopping or breakfast after Mass.

Seraphina · « **Reply #3 on:** June 28, 2018, 03:33:01 PM »

Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on June 28, 2018, 11:00:10 AM

We can all do this on our own. No shopping or breakfast after Mass.

I don’t shop on Sunday, however, if the restriction includes no buying gas or paying tolls, I would never hear mass or receive the Sacraments. I cannot get to mass and back on one tank of gas, nor can I leave or re-enter where I live without paying at least one toll. But suppose now that we have EZ Pass and no more human workers, maybe the toll doesn’t count. I suppose I could possibly sneak out a return trip’s amount of gas, but it is forbidden by law for safety reasons on the bridges and tunnels. I could, in fact, usually do end up eating a couple of bananas and rolls from home as I drive to save on time. If I’m lucky, I hear mass 3-4 times a year.
I can’t see Blue Laws returning in the US any time soon. Too many people have no choice but to work and or shop on Sundays and Holy Days. If they don’t work, they’ll not have a job. If a Holy Day falls on a week day, I have almost no chance of hearing mass, even if I were willing to attend the novus ordo. I once looked into it, and discovered there were no Catholic Churches with mass before 6:00 am or after 8:00 pm. My job is such that I cannot take off without harming others, and my chances of finding another job in my field at my age are virtually nihl.
I generally try not to do any major or unnecessary shopping on Sundays.

tdrev123 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 28, 2018, 03:53:43 PM »

Hopefully the law stays, Orban banned almost all sunday shopping and the people revolted against it, and the law was changed. Hopefully there are more faithful catholics who appreciate such a great law.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #5 on:** June 29, 2018, 01:45:27 AM »

In regards to Mass and Holy Days, you can only do the best you can.
These are hard times. There is live Mass streaming too for Mass and Holy Days.

Tolls, gas, medical, caring for livestock and crops are needed.

Bars, retail etc.

Amish restaurants and shops are closed. Chick fil closed, Hobby Lobby. Catholic religious shops are closed.

Italian restaurants and hoagie shops in our area recently opened on Sunday's. A couple of bars now do business on Sunday's. Sports and high school games are now on Sunday's.

In the past, people had family dinners and bbqs on Sunday's afteR Church.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #6 on:** June 29, 2018, 03:51:00 AM »

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Sunday's what?
Sunday's Mass? Sunday's hours? Sunday's time in the morning?
Apostrophe s means something belongs to Sunday.
If it's merely plural, then you should write Sundays. Without any apostrophe. That means two or more Sundays.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #7 on:** June 29, 2018, 04:52:35 AM »

the problem is not my spelling but cell phone.

Seraphina · « **Reply #8 on:** June 29, 2018, 02:51:00 PM »

Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on June 29, 2018, 01:45:27 AM

In the past, people had family dinners and bbqs on Sunday's afteR Church.

In the past........ people had families,
........families, not just individuals within them, were Catholic
........the families went to Church together, or,
........took turns going to one of the multiple Masses offered on Sunday to do infant care or other charitable necessities,
.........cooked at home, and knew how to do so,
.........could walk to Church, sometimes had a choice of several Catholic Churches,
..........had Sundays off unless they were in law enforcement or medicine,
..........had community, social, and national support for honoring God on Sunday
Now, many people are solo-Catholics who travel long distances for Mass and Sacraments, they don't know how to cook and survive on take-out, pre-prepared meals or restaurants, don't have time to relax after Church because they need to get behind the wheel of their car to be home at an hour that will give them a bit of sleep before they need to be at work on Monday morning. No Catholics in the US have the support of national law to set Sunday aside for God. Everything is the direct opposite.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #9 on:** June 29, 2018, 05:17:40 PM »

:applause:

If I recall correctly, Our Lady at Fatima stated that violation of Sundays was one of the primary reasons God chastised the world with WWI.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #10 on:** June 29, 2018, 05:21:06 PM »

Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on June 28, 2018, 11:00:10 AM

We can all do this on our own. No shopping or breakfast after Mass.

Yes, but the STATE should publicly do so as well, as per the principles regarding the Social Kingship of Christ.

Nandarani · « **Reply #11 on:** June 29, 2018, 09:11:14 PM »

France was the target of Our Lord's work of Reparation designed specifically to stay the wrath of his father and deal with France during the 19th century and the description of what Sundays were like there in The Life of Sister Mary of St. Peter sounds like Monday morning in the stock yard with people examining and trying animals for purchase, coupled with clanging freight cars, and factory smoke all mixed together.

A string of efforts by Our Lord began. Information scanty but does exist on a nun in France who received communications from Our Lord for many years until she died on the subject of Reparation. He seems to have begun with her.

Her example was so profoundly humble that those around her wanted more to be done to officially recognize her after her death and Sister Mary of St. Peter, learning her story, felt very unequal to the example and did see a predecessor in the work of Reparation. That nun was and remains unknown, but was an unknown, unsung saint on earth.

A month after she died, either Sister Mary of St. Peter was born, or, she began to receive from Our Lord a new level of detail about the Reparation work he wanted done on behalf of France. I can't remember which it was but in any case after not too long, La Salette with a similar emphasis, and then Fatima according to Ladislaus; I haven't focused heavily on Fatima but do use all the five prayers daily several times.

France was a hotbed of Sunday activity; it was like any other day of the week.

The will to prove something was what angered God about France.

The increasing direct attack on the Social Reign of Christ was run by those fomenting it and came every Sunday from ordinary people. From what I found recently, in The Life of Sister Mary of St. Peter, it seems that Our Lady specifically wanted to appear at La Salette to reach the people who were NOT going along.

After La Salette more and more God fearing people wanted to make reparation including the family of St. Terese of Liseux who of course died looking at the picture posted at the foot of her bed. May we all have a similar experience !

klasG4e · « **Reply #12 on:** June 29, 2018, 10:41:18 PM »

Easier said than done, but highly commendable: do not go on the Internet on Sunday at all unless you absolutely must to check for email or some such other thing. As for checking on the news or our email, not to mention blogging on CathInfo on Sunday, it may come as a bit of a shock to some of us, but the world will actually go on without us doing it. We will actually survive and those temporary 24 hour Internet withdrawal symptoms (mortification?) will actually do us good! :)

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #13 on:** June 30, 2018, 06:49:00 PM »

:applause:Yes, this is so good. Unplug on Sunday's.
( and so sad to hear that Mexico is voting on a Sunday) yikes.

Vintagewife3 · « **Reply #14 on:** July 01, 2018, 12:21:45 PM »

That’s pretty awesome! I wish we could start doing this state by state here.

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