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Traditional Catholic Faith => Fighting Errors in the Modern World => Topic started by: de Lugo on September 28, 2022, 12:27:35 PM

Title: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: de Lugo on September 28, 2022, 12:27:35 PM
NATO renegs no fewer than 5 separate times upon its pledge not to expand the alliance eastward, and Putin does nothing.

NATO (and primarily the Americains) establish chemical warfare labs and military bases all along the Ukrainian/Russo border, and Putin's only response is to initiate a special military operation to protect the Russians in the Donbass region from Jєωιѕн-nαzι attacks commenced by the puppet Jew Zelensky since 2014.

It appears that war is necessary for the next stage of the psychopathic Great Reset, but Putin (who understands this) has foiled this plan by his restraint.

So, the Americains destroy one of his only remaining revenue streams (natural gas sales to Europe, which even if curtailed in response to fraudulent USA/NATO sanctions, nevertheless supply a portion of the operating budget of Russia), in a deliberately obvious terrorist operation to which Putin must respond.

And why is world war necessary to the Great Reset?

For the same reasons WWI and WWII were necessary to move away from the Christian world order (eliminating monarchy, aristocracy, and Christian institutions and values): To reestablish society upon a global scale in which nation states become mere administrative areas, under the pretext of "never again" allowing potential for world wars.

This far, the only thing standing between world war/Great Reset, and the relative peace of the last few years, is Vladimir Putin.  But now even he will not be able to restrain himself from a severe response, lest his own people revolt at the attack upon Russia (an act which dwarfs 911, in terms of its consequences for the world).
Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: dxcat40 on September 28, 2022, 12:46:41 PM
NATO renegs no fewer than 5 separate times upon its pledge not to expand the alliance eastward, and Putin does nothing.
Myth. Try this book: https://www.amazon.com/Not-One-Inch-Post-Cold-Stalemate/dp/030025993X


NATO (and primarily the Americains) establish chemical warfare labs and military bases all along the Ukrainian/Russo border, and Putin's only response is to initiate a special military operation to protect the Russians in the Donbass region from Jєωιѕн-nαzι attacks commenced by the puppet Jєω Zelensky since 2014.
Qanon. The Soviet Union was the one that originally built the bioweapons research labs in Ukraine.


It appears that war is necessary for the next stage of the psychopathic Great Reset, but Putin (who understands this) has foiled this plan by his restraint.
Leveling cities, killing 15K+ civilians and kidnapping Ukrainians into Russia isn't restraint. It doesn't help that he's abandoned the Russians/Ukrainians that supported him in the reclaimed separatist regions.


So, the Americains destroy one of his only remaining revenue streams (natural gas sales to Europe, which even if curtailed in response to fraudulent USA/NATO sanctions, nevertheless supply a portion of the operating budget of Russia), in a deliberately obvious terrorist operation to which Putin must respond.
It's true that oil and gas make up reportedly 45% of Russia's budget, but they have found other buyers and China is certainly supporting them. The problem of Russia's economy belongs to Russia, not Europe. Russia should try not running an oligarchy with billionaire Jєωs in key positions raking the common Russian. Consider these graphics:

(https://i.imgur.com/wOLwjSe.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/rGVht1J.png)


This far, the only thing standing between world war/Great Reset, and the relative peace of the last few years, is Vladimir Putin.  But now even he will not be able to restrain himself from a severe response, lest his own people revolt at the attack upon Russia (an act which dwarfs 911, in terms of its consequences for the world).
This is a bad joke and it isn't funny. I know you probably believe this, too, Ladislaus, and I don't want to attack either of you, but I am unable to ignore such a naked attempt at propaganda. Russia and China are allied against NATO. Russia can't win without her Communist/Authoritarian allies. You are framing the Communist as the good guys versus Globohomo. This whole thing has been a set up from the start, which was set into motion with the fake collapse of the Soviet Union (Perestroika Deception).

There are no "good guys" here. There are no "white hats". It's a stage play meant to usher in the next global order. You are correct at least on the final point: WWIII has been orchestrated and is coming. Russia isn't going to painlessly wipe off Globohomo and leave you to learn Russia in a peaceful nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr. Instead, they are going to gruesomely kill you, your friends and family using China and her other allies (who get looting rights). The slaughter is going to be unparalleled by anything the world has ever seen, and there is nothing necessary about it, but rather Putin is helping them achieve it. Pushing the new Eastern Bloc as saviors should be condemned and its adherents shunned, because it's completely dishonest and has a false view of the world. Where does China even fit into all of this? Xi, "benevolent" commander of assassins and murderers?

The Right is going to get slaughtered and deservedly, because rather than identify the enemy and do something about it they would rather pass the buck off to someone else and live in a fantasy world.
Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: de Lugo on September 28, 2022, 01:03:58 PM
Myth. Try this book: https://www.amazon.com/Not-One-Inch-Post-Cold-Stalemate/dp/030025993X

Qanon. The Soviet Union was the one that originally built the bioweapons research labs in Ukraine.

Leveling cities, killing 15K+ civilians and kidnapping Ukrainians into Russia isn't restraint. It doesn't help that he's abandoned the Russians/Ukrainians that supported him in the reclaimed separatist regions.

It's true that oil and gas make up reportedly 45% of Russia's budget, but they have found other buyers and China is certainly supporting them. The problem of Russia's economy belongs to Russia, not Europe. Russia should try not running an oligarchy with billionaire Jєωs in key positions raking the common Russian. Consider these graphics:

(https://i.imgur.com/wOLwjSe.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/rGVht1J.png)

This is a bad joke and it isn't funny. I know you probably believe this, too, Ladislaus, and I don't want to attack either of you, but I am unable to ignore such a naked attempt at propaganda. Russia and China are allied against NATO. Russia can't win without her Communist/Authoritarian allies. You are framing the Communist as the good guys versus Globohomo. This whole thing has been a set up from the start, which was set into motion with the fake collapse of the Soviet Union (Perestroika Deception).

There are no "good guys" here. There are no "white hats". It's a stage play meant to usher in the next global order. You are correct at least on the final point: WWIII has been orchestrated and is coming. Russia isn't going to painlessly wipe off Globohomo and leave you to learn Russia in a peaceful nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr. Instead, they are going to gruesomely kill you, your friends and family using China and her other allies (who get looting rights). The slaughter is going to be unparalleled by anything the world has ever seen, and there is nothing necessary about it, but rather Putin is helping them achieve it. Pushing the new Eastern Bloc as saviors should be condemned and its adherents shunned, because it's completely dishonest and has a false view of the world. Where does China even fit into all of this? Xi, "benevolent" commander of assassins and murderers?

The Right is going to get slaughtered and deservedly, because rather than identify the enemy and do something about it they would rather pass the buck off to someone else and live in a fantasy world.

You seem not to realize that the international financiers behind this whole thing have made Russia and America switch places: The Americans are the godless communists, dictators, and aggressors, while the Russians are religious, defensive, and free.  

It was inevitable (read The Servile State by Belloc).
Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: Yeti on September 28, 2022, 02:17:06 PM
Thank you for this interesting analysis, de Lugo, it helps me understand a little bit what was going on.

Since it looks like the United States blew up that pipeline (the thought makes me sick to think about it), I was wondering what the motive was. I think maybe the purpose is to prevent the Germans from changing their mind about the oil and natural gas embargo on Russia when they start freezing this winter. They can't say, "We give up, we'll start buying gas from Russia again whether NATO likes it or not, since we're freezing." Just as the weather is starting to get cold for the winter, suddenly that option is taken away from them. :(
Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: dxcat40 on September 28, 2022, 02:45:26 PM
Russia and America switch places 
You've never even heard of Anatoliy Golitsyn, have you? I know these aren't your independent thoughts borne of sound research, but rather the narrative woven out of the sordid underbelly of the alternative media. It became inevitable when people kept falling for the propaganda and choosing the easy life instead of fighting back against them. Compromising with the enemy is always ѕυιcιdє. So many people want to believe that they would have recognized and opposed Vatican II, yet unwittingly support the enemy that brought about its implementation.
Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: de Lugo on September 28, 2022, 02:59:29 PM
Thank you for this interesting analysis, de Lugo, it helps me understand a little bit what was going on.

Since it looks like the United States blew up that pipeline (the thought makes me sick to think about it), I was wondering what the motive was. I think maybe the purpose is to prevent the Germans from changing their mind about the oil and natural gas embargo on Russia when they start freezing this winter. They can't say, "We give up, we'll start buying gas from Russia again whether NATO likes it or not, since we're freezing." Just as the weather is starting to get cold for the winter, suddenly that option is taken away from them. :(

Can you imagine what Germany might do if it comes to this realization?
Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: Mr G on September 28, 2022, 03:15:26 PM
Is the War in Ukraine Part of a U.S. Strategy to Weaken Germany? RAND Says, “YES”! (thegatewaypundit.com) (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/09/war-ukraine-part-u-s-strategy-weaken-germany-rand-says-yes/)
Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: de Lugo on September 28, 2022, 03:20:59 PM
In the United Kingdom, the propaganda war has begun.  All media outlets are in lockstep (as was the case during COVID), deflecting attention from the Americains, and accusing Russia of the sabotage.

(Remember the Golden Rule of calumny: Whomever makes the accusation first must be the innocent one (any subsequent defense looks like retaliation)):

1) https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/09/27/putins-nord-stream-2-sabotage-sends-warning-will-blow-pipes/

2) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11256861/EU-threatens-strongest-possible-response-Putin-deliberate-sabotage-Nordstream-pipeline.html

3) https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/19939292/putins-special-ops-sabotage-nordstream-pipeline-nato/

4) https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/09/27/russian-sabotage-feared-unprecedented-damage-nord-stream-gas/

5) https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/19933417/putin-sabotage-nord-stream-pipeline-gas/

6) https://bbcgossip.com/news/how-divers-from-putins-special-ops-sabotage-unit-could-have-blown-up-nord-stream-gas-pipeline-right-under-natos-noses/

7) https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1675350/Nord-steam-attack-leak-russia-denmark-european-union-vladmir-putin-latest-updates
Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: HolyAngels on September 28, 2022, 03:24:21 PM
I don't understand the NWO plan. What country or countries are calling the shots in it's planning ?

Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: dxcat40 on September 28, 2022, 03:33:07 PM
I don't understand the NWO plan. What country or countries are calling the shots in it's planning ?
It doesn't make sense because the story presented here is just propaganda. There is no reliable information currently. What we can know is that Russia bungled badly in Ukraine and Putin made a series of unpopular moves (e.g., conscripting untrained civilians and sending them to die). The Russian media was beginning to denounce him and military-age Russians were fleeing the country and committing acts of arson against recruitment centers. An American attack could only help Putin, whether that came from willful aid on Biden's part or Russians blowing up their own pipeline to blame it on NATO.
Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: de Lugo on September 28, 2022, 03:36:33 PM
It doesn't make sense because the story presented here is just propaganda. There is no reliable information currently. What we can know is that Russia bungled badly in Ukraine and Putin made a series of unpopular moves (e.g., conscripting untrained civilians and sending them to die). The Russian media was beginning to denounce him and military-age Russians were fleeing the country and committing acts of arson against recruitment centers. An American attack could only help Putin, whether that came from willful aid on Biden's part or Russians blowing up their own pipeline to blame it on NATO.

Sounds like propaganda.
Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: dxcat40 on September 28, 2022, 03:52:21 PM
Sounds like propaganda.
Wake me up when you form an independent thought.
Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: HolyAngels on September 28, 2022, 03:53:33 PM
It doesn't make sense because the story presented here is just propaganda. There is no reliable information currently. What we can know is that Russia bungled badly in Ukraine and Putin made a series of unpopular moves (e.g., conscripting untrained civilians and sending them to die). The Russian media was beginning to denounce him and military-age Russians were fleeing the country and committing acts of arson against recruitment centers. An American attack could only help Putin, whether that came from willful aid on Biden's part or Russians blowing up their own pipeline to blame it on NATO.
Thanks, those pipelines were not in use anyhow going by a random article I read.
Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: Miser Peccator on September 28, 2022, 05:32:09 PM
I don't understand the NWO plan. What country or countries are calling the shots in it's planning ?

Actually your quote at the bottom of your post explains it.

Politics is a ruse to keep the masses divided and easier to control
.  All the world leaders are in a club and answer to a "higher power".

The UN (Lucifer Trust) 

The plan was laid out over a hundred years ago.



The Alta Vendita planned the infiltration and takeover of the Vatican:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alta_Vendita

(https://i.imgur.com/DQmE9ph.png)



Albert Pike and Three World Wars

September 15, 2015 by Yvonne Nachtigal
I find of particular interest in this letter, what Pike writes about the Second World War:

“The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that nαzιsm is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm.” 3

ThreeWorldWars.com
Albert Pike received a vision, which he described in a letter that he wrote to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871. This letter graphically outlined plans for three world wars that were seen as necessary to bring about the One World Order, and we can marvel at how accurately it has predicted events that have already taken place.

Pike’s Letter to Mazzini
It is a commonly believed fallacy that for a short time, the Pike letter to Mazzini was on display in the British Museum Library in London, and it was copied by William Guy Carr, former Intelligence Officer in the Royal Canadian Navy.  The British Library has confirmed in writing to me that such a docuмent has never been in their possession.  Furthermore, in Carr’s book, Satan, Prince of this World, Carr includes the following footnote:

“The Keeper of Manuscripts recently informed the author that this letter is NOT catalogued in the British Museum Library.  It seems strange that a man of Cardinal Rodriguez’s knowledge should have said that it WAS in 1925”.

It appears that Carr learned about this letter from Cardinal Caro y Rodriguez of Santiago, Chile, who wrote The Mystery of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ Unveiled.

To date, no conclusive proof exists to show that this letter was ever written.  Nevertheless, the letter is widely quoted and the topic of much discussion.

Following are apparently extracts of the letter, showing how Three World Wars have been planned for many generations.

“The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the “agentur” (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions.” 2

Students of history will recognize that the political alliances of England on one side and Germany on the other, forged between 1871 and 1898 by Otto von Bismarck, co-conspirator of Albert Pike, were instrumental in bringing about the First World War.

“The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that nαzιsm is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm.” 3

After this Second World War, Communism was made strong enough to begin taking over weaker governments. In 1945, at the Potsdam Conference between Truman, Churchill, and Stalin, a large portion of Europe was simply handed over to Russia, and on the other side of the world, the aftermath of the war with Japan helped to sweep the tide of Communism into China.

(Readers who argue that the terms nαzιsm and Zionism were not known in 1871 should remember that the Illuminati invented both these movements.  In addition, Communism as an ideology, and as a coined phrase, originates in France during the Revolution.  In 1785, Restif coined the phrase four years before revolution broke out.  Restif and Babeuf, in turn, were influenced by Rousseau – as was the most famous conspirator of them all, Adam Weishaupt.)

“The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the “agentur” of the “Illuminati” between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.” 4

Since the terrorist attacks of Sept 11, 2001, world events, and in particular in the Middle East, show a growing unrest and instability between Modern Zionism and the Arabic World. This is completely in line with the call for a Third World War to be fought between the two, and their allies on both sides. This Third World War is still to come, and recent events show us that it is not far off.
https://christianobserver.net/albert-pike-and-three-world-wars/



Important to note that many statues were toppled during Trump's term but he only requested that one get reinstalled:

Albert Pike

Trump Asks for Toppled DC Confederate Statue To Be Put Back Up
A statue of Albert Pike, who was a Confederate general and leader of the Freemasons, was torn down and set on fire the night of Juneteenth
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/trump-requests-toppled-confederate-statue-put-back-up-in-dc/2343633/


Vigano sees Trump ushering in the NWO:

"The defeat of the deep state by the healthy forces within the United States of America will be the premise for a peaceful coexistence of nations, without there being one nation that considers itself superior and legitimized to subjugate the others. This is why Donald Trump was ousted by electoral fraud from the Presidency of the United States..." 

That's actually the plan of the United Nations (which was started by Lucifer Trust).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucis_Trust


(https://i.imgur.com/RMdS6nw.png)






Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: HolyAngels on September 28, 2022, 06:05:35 PM
Actually your quote at the bottom of your post explains it.

Politics is a ruse to keep the masses divided and easier to control
.  All the world leaders are in a club and answer to a "higher power".

The UN (Lucifer Trust)

The plan was laid out over a hundred years ago.



The Alta Vendita planned the infiltration and takeover of the Vatican:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alta_Vendita

(https://i.imgur.com/DQmE9ph.png)



Albert Pike and Three World Wars

September 15, 2015 by Yvonne Nachtigal
I find of particular interest in this letter, what Pike writes about the Second World War:

“The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that nαzιsm is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm.” 3

ThreeWorldWars.com
Albert Pike received a vision, which he described in a letter that he wrote to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871. This letter graphically outlined plans for three world wars that were seen as necessary to bring about the One World Order, and we can marvel at how accurately it has predicted events that have already taken place.

Pike’s Letter to Mazzini
It is a commonly believed fallacy that for a short time, the Pike letter to Mazzini was on display in the British Museum Library in London, and it was copied by William Guy Carr, former Intelligence Officer in the Royal Canadian Navy.  The British Library has confirmed in writing to me that such a docuмent has never been in their possession.  Furthermore, in Carr’s book, Satan, Prince of this World, Carr includes the following footnote:

“The Keeper of Manuscripts recently informed the author that this letter is NOT catalogued in the British Museum Library.  It seems strange that a man of Cardinal Rodriguez’s knowledge should have said that it WAS in 1925”.

It appears that Carr learned about this letter from Cardinal Caro y Rodriguez of Santiago, Chile, who wrote The Mystery of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ Unveiled.

To date, no conclusive proof exists to show that this letter was ever written.  Nevertheless, the letter is widely quoted and the topic of much discussion.

Following are apparently extracts of the letter, showing how Three World Wars have been planned for many generations.

“The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the “agentur” (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions.” 2

Students of history will recognize that the political alliances of England on one side and Germany on the other, forged between 1871 and 1898 by Otto von Bismarck, co-conspirator of Albert Pike, were instrumental in bringing about the First World War.

“The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that nαzιsm is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm.” 3

After this Second World War, Communism was made strong enough to begin taking over weaker governments. In 1945, at the Potsdam Conference between Truman, Churchill, and Stalin, a large portion of Europe was simply handed over to Russia, and on the other side of the world, the aftermath of the war with Japan helped to sweep the tide of Communism into China.

(Readers who argue that the terms nαzιsm and Zionism were not known in 1871 should remember that the Illuminati invented both these movements.  In addition, Communism as an ideology, and as a coined phrase, originates in France during the Revolution.  In 1785, Restif coined the phrase four years before revolution broke out.  Restif and Babeuf, in turn, were influenced by Rousseau – as was the most famous conspirator of them all, Adam Weishaupt.)

“The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the “agentur” of the “Illuminati” between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.” 4

Since the terrorist attacks of Sept 11, 2001, world events, and in particular in the Middle East, show a growing unrest and instability between Modern Zionism and the Arabic World. This is completely in line with the call for a Third World War to be fought between the two, and their allies on both sides. This Third World War is still to come, and recent events show us that it is not far off.
https://christianobserver.net/albert-pike-and-three-world-wars/



Important to note that many statues were toppled during Trump's term but he only requested that one get reinstalled:

Albert Pike

Trump Asks for Toppled DC Confederate Statue To Be Put Back Up
A statue of Albert Pike, who was a Confederate general and leader of the Freemasons, was torn down and set on fire the night of Juneteenth
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/trump-requests-toppled-confederate-statue-put-back-up-in-dc/2343633/


Vigano sees Trump ushering in the NWO:

"The defeat of the deep state by the healthy forces within the United States of America will be the premise for a peaceful coexistence of nations, without there being one nation that considers itself superior and legitimized to subjugate the others. This is why Donald Trump was ousted by electoral fraud from the Presidency of the United States..." 

That's actually the plan of the United Nations (which was started by Lucifer Trust).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucis_Trust


(https://i.imgur.com/RMdS6nw.png)
Interesting stuff. I'm well aware of the Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita. And I've read that letter supposedly from Pike as well.

Thanks for posting the rest as well.
Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: Miser Peccator on September 28, 2022, 09:43:33 PM
Interesting stuff. I'm well aware of the Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita. And I've read that letter supposedly from Pike as well.

Thanks for posting the rest as well.
One more thing to mention that you probably already know is that the world puppets (politicians) were members of the WEF Forum of Young Global Leaders including Putin.  Kim Jong Un went to "finishing school" with the others in Switzerland. 

All countries have installed the surveillance state and are instituting the ESG scores (UN Lucifer Trust sustainable development goals score --in other words the social credit system).

The WEF meets under the Arch of Baal:

https://thegoodnewstoday.org/the-arch-of-baal-was-displayed-for-the-third-time-in-honor-of-the-world-government-summit/


What's the good news?  THIS IS NOT OUR HOME :D


"Put not your trust in princes:

In the children of men, in whom there is no salvation."
Psalm 146




Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: Miser Peccator on September 29, 2022, 02:48:43 AM
One more thing to mention that you probably already know is that the world puppets (politicians) were members of the WEF Forum of Young Global Leaders including Putin.  Kim Jong Un went to "finishing school" with the others in Switzerland. 

All countries have installed the surveillance state and are instituting the ESG scores (UN Lucifer Trust sustainable development goals score --in other words the social credit system).

The WEF meets under the Arch of Baal:

https://thegoodnewstoday.org/the-arch-of-baal-was-displayed-for-the-third-time-in-honor-of-the-world-government-summit/


What's the good news?  THIS IS NOT OUR HOME :D


"Put not your trust in princes:

In the children of men, in whom there is no salvation."
Psalm 146


Russia is rebuilding the Arch of Baal:

https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2021/11/russia-begins-restoration-arc-triumph-syrias-palmyra
Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: Miser Peccator on September 29, 2022, 02:56:49 AM
Just in:  

Trump is offering to broker a peace deal in Ukraine:

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1575104746687729664


This was foreshadowed in 1984 as advised by Trump's pedophile kingpin lawyer, Roy Cohn:
https://twitter.com/NFG_1998/status/1575234500803858434


From 1985  NOT the usual look for Trump eh?



(https://i.imgur.com/lKLbbIO.jpg)

Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: richard on September 29, 2022, 04:35:44 AM
It doesn't make sense because the story presented here is just propaganda. There is no reliable information currently. What we can know is that Russia bungled badly in Ukraine and Putin made a series of unpopular moves (e.g., conscripting untrained civilians and sending them to die). The Russian media was beginning to denounce him and military-age Russians were fleeing the country and committing acts of arson against recruitment centers. An American attack could only help Putin, whether that came from willful aid on Biden's part or Russians blowing up their own pipeline to blame it on NATO.
What planet are you on?
Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: dxcat40 on September 29, 2022, 07:38:06 AM
Just in: 

Trump is offering to broker a peace deal in Ukraine:

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1575104746687729664
Another reason why this whole thing stinks:


(https://i.imgur.com/VTVdlbv.png)

Don't believe a word of it. This is another bad stage play. Just Google it and see the coverage he's getting over it.
Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: Ladislaus on September 29, 2022, 07:46:11 AM
You've never even heard of Anatoliy Golitsyn, have you? 

Whether Golitsyn's predictions come true, the fact is that indeed the US/USSR in their current state have switched places.  US is decidedly more Communist than Russia is AT THIS TIME, and more corrupt ... not to mention the extreme moral decaly of the US.  Whether Russia reverts at some point is a different question.

Catholic prophecy strongly suggests that at some point Russia will convert and become the instrument for the Triumph of Our Lady and the Church, and the fact that Russia has more and more championed respect for at least the natural order (vs. the trends contra naturam of the West) is preparing them for this conversion.
Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: Miser Peccator on September 29, 2022, 07:53:07 AM
Another reason why this whole thing stinks:


(https://i.imgur.com/VTVdlbv.png)

Don't believe a word of it. This is another bad stage play. Just Google it and see the coverage he's getting over it.
All part of the plan...




(https://i.imgur.com/YiSfErz.png)

I will start a separate Trump thread later to compile info I've posted in various threads but here is some. 

(Sorry if I'm repeating some things, I have different posts going here and elsewhere)


All of the world puppets (politicians) are part of the WEF (yes Trump too!) and most were formed by the WEF Forum of Young Global Leaders including Putin.  Kim Jong Un went to "finishing school" with the others in Switzerland.


Politics is a ruse to keep the masses divided and easier to control.

All the world leaders are in a club and answer to a "higher power":

The UN (Lucifer Trust)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucis_Trust (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucis_Trust)

The WEF (banking arm that carries out the goals of the UN)  meets under the Arch of Baal:
https://thegoodnewstoday.org/the-arch-of-baal-was-displayed-for-the-third-time-in-honor-of-the-world-government-summit/ (https://thegoodnewstoday.org/the-arch-of-baal-was-displayed-for-the-third-time-in-honor-of-the-world-government-summit/)

Russia is rebuilding the Arch of Baal:
https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2021/11/russia-begins-restoration-arc-triumph-syrias-palmyra (https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2021/11/russia-begins-restoration-arc-triumph-syrias-palmyra)

Trump praising Klaus Schwab for doing an excellent job.
Oh, and while giving a speech he declares that drug dealers should not be given due process
they should be just taken out and executed.

Start here and go to end.  About 10min
https://youtu.be/bP26sGxObk4?t=7626 (https://youtu.be/bP26sGxObk4?t=7626)

He wouldn't do that to us would he?  See more below...

To bring forth the nwo they don't need to deceive the left.  They are already deceived.

They need to deceive the right!

The plan to bring in the so called "peace" of the One World Government and One World Religion is over 100 years old.

See more here about Trump's hero who was given the plan from Lucifer himself:
https://christianobserver.net/albert-pike-and-three-world-wars/ (https://christianobserver.net/albert-pike-and-three-world-wars/)

Again, Vigano sees Trump ushering in the NWO:

"The defeat of the deep state by the healthy forces within the United States of America will be the premise for a peaceful coexistence of nations, without there being one nation that considers itself superior and legitimized to subjugate the others. This is why Donald Trump was ousted by electoral fraud from the Presidency of the United States..." 

That's actually the plan of the United Nations (which was started by Lucifer Trust).


Vigano said again yesterday that returning Trump to power would allow him to negotiate peace.  Today Trump is saying he is the man to negotiate peace in Ukraine.

This is the peace plan for the nwo:


(https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=9c53f93926&attid=0.4&permmsgid=msg-a:r6431773226116115684&th=18388aa986958915&view=fimg&fur=ip&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ9STVV_cthWfu-j4a86LmDxM5uVBxuGHNp9ZDQ__d5p_665BSdJa3wJlTaL6L74yYT6ECcAoh1MHBzNOZKENfCrxcvUiqG1xql8GGL3O92ZAJLZc2GheoOFBAc&disp=emb&realattid=ii_l8mrsexi4)

No more armies and no more wars?  Didn't George Bush Sr say that too?  A nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr.  How on earth would that be accomplished?

Question:  How do you create "world peace"? 
Answer:  A worldwide surveillance state.monitored with AI tech and programmable crypto (which can be cut off) and biometrics


Over and over again, at every campaign stop Trump gave the speech:  "YOU KNEW I WAS A SNAKE WHEN YOU LET ME IN!"

All countries worldwide have already installed the surveillance state and are instituting the ESG scores (UN Lucifer Trust sustainable development goals score --in other words the social credit system with Blockchain accounting system).

Sept 19, 2019  a month before the Covid narrative breaks out
TRUMP passed Executive Order 


Quote
The U.S. Department of Human Health Services (HHS) released its National Influenza Vaccine Modernization Strategy (NIVMS) 2020–2030, as directed by Executive Order (EO) 13887, on Modernizing Influenza Vaccines in the United States to Promote National Security and Public Health.

establishing the infrastructure for medical marshall law based on fake testing.

(One more time in case you haven't seen it...the inventor of the PCR stating it's not a diagnostic tool: 1minute 42 sec  https://www.bitchute.com/video/wOSeTz57xrCF/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/wOSeTz57xrCF/))

Trump ushered in 5G not so that we could download our songs faster but to support the needs of the surveillance biometric tracking system.  On land, at sea, and in air!
2minutes
https://www.bitchute.com/video/XIckzKXyaKKD/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/XIckzKXyaKKD/)

A virtual prison planet.

Remember that photo of Trump with the creepy orb:

(https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=9c53f93926&attid=0.5&permmsgid=msg-a:r6431773226116115684&th=18388aa986958915&view=fimg&fur=ip&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ_5sQNKr48NO0xcTjrtPqgrhfUKSuRV4aAdp0cTryFr2JESdBOdnQIpCwvQqa_G6q5Wd1RmybYsWlS-J6WH5kCHkxxCs9F26EgITnrzrxDZSTH3Y7XgNhkLgp0&disp=emb&realattid=ii_l8mt3y3z5)

What Trump and friends were looking at while fondling the great orb in the Global Center for Combating Extremist Ideology:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Center_to_Combat_Extremism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Center_to_Combat_Extremism)
etidal.org


(https://i.imgur.com/4NjYROO.png)

(http://etidal.org/)(https://i.imgur.com/zJ5Stjx.png)
Trump wouldn't want to use that kind of technology against us would he?  He wants Americans to be free, right?

Trump Calls On Social Media Companies To Become Pre-Crime Agents:
https://www.techdirt.com/2019/08/06/trump-calls-social-media-companies-to-become-pre-crime-agents/ (https://www.techdirt.com/2019/08/06/trump-calls-social-media-companies-to-become-pre-crime-agents/)


Trump: ‘Take the guns first, go through due process second’
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/376097-trump-take-the-guns-first-go-through-due-process-second/ (https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/376097-trump-take-the-guns-first-go-through-due-process-second/)


Remember Ben Gurion stating that the United Nations will have a Supreme Court of mankind in Jerusalem

When that happens can you criticize that move?

Trump’s Executive Order to Stifle Israel Critics Probably Violates the Constitution
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/12/trump-anti-anti-semitism-order-likely-violates-constitution.html (https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/12/trump-anti-anti-semitism-order-likely-violates-constitution.html)


And this

Donald J. Trump: Champion of Noahide Law
'During his almost four years in office, Donald Trump has been the greatest supporter of Noahide law in US history.'
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/290464 (https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/290464)

Under Noahide, you can believe in "the Christ" (fake Ascended Master) as long as you don't believe he is the Son of God because that would be idolatry.  You can't believe in the Blessed Trinity.  You'll be beheaded.

All the presidents going back to Reagan have said that an Alien Invasion would bring the world together in peace which is why I believe they will fake one in the near future:

Here is Reagan at the UN:
27 seconds
 https://www.bitchute.com/video/T1fZQeXAyepw/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/T1fZQeXAyepw/)



Trump's Space Force will save the day!

Be not deceived.  The plan is NOT for world peace but for a worldwide prison planet.

I find strength watching these 3 minute videos and especially look to find the ones on the martyrs.  So many of them of all ages including young children:

https://www.bitchute.com/channel/XuLVbjpfeQ3t/ (https://www.bitchute.com/channel/XuLVbjpfeQ3t/)

Will I deserve to spend eternity with them?

Lord Jesus, please give me the grace.

"Put not your trust in princes:

In the children of men, in whom there is no salvation."
Psalm 146
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Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: dxcat40 on September 29, 2022, 08:26:05 AM
Whether Golitsyn's predictions come true, the fact is that indeed the US/USSR in their current state have switched places.
I appreciate your having read Golitsyn. I disagree that they have switched places. Rather, the Communist International remains International, not uniquely American.


US is decidedly more Communist than Russia is AT THIS TIME, and more corrupt ... not to mention the extreme moral decaly of the US.  Whether Russia reverts at some point is a different question.
This is definitely not true. We may feel the corruption of the US more distinctly, but Westerners do not have an understanding of the depths of the corruption in Russia. Russia is still an oligarchy. If you look at the stats on immorality, Russia is near the top when compared to America and European powers. It would be great if we could start a topic to discuss the differences, if you have proof to the contrary.


Catholic prophecy strongly suggests that at some point Russia will convert and become the instrument for the Triumph of Our Lady and the Church, and the fact that Russia has more and more championed respect for at least the natural order (vs. the trends contra naturam of the West) is preparing them for this conversion.
Let's look into the stats. Where does Russia stand on abortion (2018)?

United States: 11.3 per 1000 women
Russia: 53.7 per 1,000 women

If you dig into it, it just gets worse. Church attendance is still higher in the US. Immorality and licentiousness are still lower in the US. Comparatively speaking, Russians are self-hating, alcoholics, promiscuous, drug addicts and extremely superstitious. If they are preparing to convert we haven't seen that reflected in official stats.
Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: Cera on September 29, 2022, 04:29:13 PM
Don't believe a word of it. This is another bad stage play. Just Google it and see the coverage he's getting over it.
Google is CIA lies.
Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: dxcat40 on September 29, 2022, 04:35:10 PM
Google is CIA lies.
Yandex is manipulated too. If it's a popular platform someone powerful is benefiting. Stop kidding yourself.
Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: HolyAngels on September 29, 2022, 05:53:18 PM
One more thing to mention that you probably already know is that the world puppets (politicians) were members of the WEF Forum of Young Global Leaders including Putin.  Kim Jong Un went to "finishing school" with the others in Switzerland. 

All countries have installed the surveillance state and are instituting the ESG scores (UN Lucifer Trust sustainable development goals score --in other words the social credit system).

The WEF meets under the Arch of Baal:

https://thegoodnewstoday.org/the-arch-of-baal-was-displayed-for-the-third-time-in-honor-of-the-world-government-summit/


What's the good news?  THIS IS NOT OUR HOME :D


"Put not your trust in princes:

In the children of men, in whom there is no salvation."
Psalm 146
I didn't know that.  

And amen to this not being our home !
Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: Miser Peccator on September 29, 2022, 07:33:41 PM
I didn't know that. 

And amen to this not being our home !

KLAUS SCHWAB IN 2017: "MERKEL, PUTIN, TRUDEAU WERE WEF YOUNG GLOBAL LEADERS"

Head of the World Economic Forum Klaus Schwab at Harvard’s John F. Kennedy School of Government in 2017.


"What we are very proud of, is that we penetrate the global cabinets of countries with our World Economic Forum Young Global Leaders."

1min
https://www.bitchute.com/video/fzp6hOKk2Ahz/




IVANKA TRUMP, WEF YOUNG GLOBAL LEADER, SPEAKS AT DAVOS 2020 ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE AND EQUITY

https://www.bitchute.com/video/imkbuakmsuKd/





It's a big club playing out their parts in the theater of global politics to advance Lucifer's UN nwo.

It's a worldwide economic revolution and WWIII is just a tool to reach that goal.


Joint Statement of the Russian Federation and the People’s Republic of China on the International Relations Entering a New Era and the Global Sustainable Development


February 4, 2022

At the invitation of President of the People’s Republic of China Xi Jinping, President of the Russian Federation Vladimir V. Putin visited China on 4 February 2022. The Heads of State held talks in Beijing and took part in the opening ceremony of the XXIV Olympic Winter Games.

The Russian Federation and the People's Republic of China, hereinafter referred to as the sides, state as follows:



(Excerpts)

The sides believe that peace, development and cooperation lie at the core of the modern international system. Development is a key driver in ensuring the prosperity of the nations. The ongoing pandemic of the new coronavirus infection poses a serious challenge to the fulfilment of the (Lucifer Trust) UN 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development. It is vital to enhance partnership relations for the sake of global development and make sure that the new stage of global development is defined by balance, harmony and inclusiveness.

In order to accelerate the implementation of the (Lucifer Trust) UN 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development, the sides call on the international community to take practical steps in key areas of cooperation such as poverty reduction, food security, vaccines and epidemics control, financing for development, climate change, sustainable development, including green development, industrialization, digital economy, and infrastructure connectivity.


http://en.kremlin.ru/supplement/5770

 (http://en.kremlin.ru/supplement/5770)
Trump praising Klaus at WEF:
54sec

https://www.bitchute.com/video/3BxZKlzgHPP2/

It's the 4th Industrial revolution.  It requires the cooperation of businesses worldwide.  

Lots more evidence and explanation was posted in this thread:



https://www.cathinfo.com/politics-and-world-leaders/evidence-putin-is-nwo/msg825557/#msg825557






Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: HolyAngels on September 29, 2022, 08:17:17 PM

My take in all of this. Years ago, when Kissinger and Busch were touting NWO, my thought was the only thing standing in its way is the Roman Catholic Church.

Now I'm thinking where the Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita comes in. Today, the hierarchy have the numbers and now they have their Pope.

Modernism has infested the Church and taken it out of the equation. So the only recourse for a trad is prayer, as Our Lord and Our Lady are, and will remain in the equation.

Am I remotely correct in this ?
KLAUS SCHWAB IN 2017: "MERKEL, PUTIN, TRUDEAU WERE WEF YOUNG GLOBAL LEADERS"

Head of the World Economic Forum Klaus Schwab at Harvard’s John F. Kennedy School of Government in 2017.


"What we are very proud of, is that we penetrate the global cabinets of countries with our World Economic Forum Young Global Leaders."

1min
https://www.bitchute.com/video/fzp6hOKk2Ahz/




IVANKA TRUMP, WEF YOUNG GLOBAL LEADER, SPEAKS AT DAVOS 2020 ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE AND EQUITY

https://www.bitchute.com/video/imkbuakmsuKd/





It's a big club playing out their parts in the theater of global politics to advance Lucifer's UN nwo.

It's a worldwide economic revolution and WWIII is just a tool to reach that goal.


Joint Statement of the Russian Federation and the People’s Republic of China on the International Relations Entering a New Era and the Global Sustainable Development


February 4, 2022

At the invitation of President of the People’s Republic of China Xi Jinping, President of the Russian Federation Vladimir V. Putin visited China on 4 February 2022. The Heads of State held talks in Beijing and took part in the opening ceremony of the XXIV Olympic Winter Games.

The Russian Federation and the People's Republic of China, hereinafter referred to as the sides, state as follows:



(Excerpts)

The sides believe that peace, development and cooperation lie at the core of the modern international system. Development is a key driver in ensuring the prosperity of the nations. The ongoing pandemic of the new coronavirus infection poses a serious challenge to the fulfilment of the (Lucifer Trust) UN 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development. It is vital to enhance partnership relations for the sake of global development and make sure that the new stage of global development is defined by balance, harmony and inclusiveness.

In order to accelerate the implementation of the (Lucifer Trust) UN 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development, the sides call on the international community to take practical steps in key areas of cooperation such as poverty reduction, food security, vaccines and epidemics control, financing for development, climate change, sustainable development, including green development, industrialization, digital economy, and infrastructure connectivity.


http://en.kremlin.ru/supplement/5770

 (http://en.kremlin.ru/supplement/5770)
Trump praising Klaus at WEF:
54sec

https://www.bitchute.com/video/3BxZKlzgHPP2/

It's the 4th Industrial revolution.  It requires the cooperation of businesses worldwide. 

Lots more evidence and explanation was posted in this thread:



https://www.cathinfo.com/politics-and-world-leaders/evidence-putin-is-nwo/msg825557/#msg825557







Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: dxcat40 on September 29, 2022, 08:25:50 PM
Modernism has infested the Church and taken it out of the equation. So the only recourse for a trad is prayer, as Our Lord and Our Lady are, and will remain in the equation.

Am I remotely correct in this ?
Prayer is always the correct answer. It is a wicked time, but we know our Lord would never abandon his Church. If we live to see the end of the Crisis, who knows what we might be privileged to witness.
Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: HolyAngels on September 29, 2022, 08:32:15 PM
Prayer is always the correct answer. It is a wicked time, but we know our Lord would never abandon his Church. If we live to see the end of the Crisis, who knows what we might be privileged to witness.
Yes, I should have said the hierarchy has the numbers. The Church still stands as promised, albeit in a scatterered flock and what few orthodox clergy remain in the Church. 
Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: Miser Peccator on September 29, 2022, 08:45:21 PM
Yes, Satan will tempt us with everything to make us believe God has abandoned us but we must not despair.  We must get mentally as well as spiritually ready for what is to come.


I see those stories of the martyrs, of young teen girls getting their breasts cut off, of little children thrown into fires, of lions tearing at their flesh...and they sing songs of praise to God and die with smiles on their faces!

How easy it would be to despair and think that God abandoned them, but of course we know it was quite the contrary.

Jesus Himself and Sacred Scripture elsewhere said it would look like this...sending a grand delusion...wolves in sheep's clothing...shepherd struck and sheep scattered...will I find the faith on earth...cashless society...

It's all coming true so that strengthens my faith actually!



"And I saw seats; and they sat upon them; and judgment was given unto them; and the souls of them that were beheaded for the testimony of Jesus "  Apoc 20:4

Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: HolyAngels on September 29, 2022, 09:34:11 PM
Yes, Satan will tempt us with everything to make us believe God has abandoned us but we must not despair.  We must get mentally as well as spiritually ready for what is to come.


I see those stories of the martyrs, of young teen girls getting their breasts cut off, of little children thrown into fires, of lions tearing at their flesh...and they sing songs of praise to God and die with smiles on their faces!

How easy it would be to despair and think that God abandoned them, but of course we know it was quite the contrary.

Jesus Himself and Sacred Scripture elsewhere said it would look like this...sending a grand delusion...wolves in sheep's clothing...shepherd struck and sheep scattered...will I find the faith on earth...cashless society...

It's all coming true so that strengthens my faith actually!



"And I saw seats; and they sat upon them; and judgment was given unto them; and the souls of them that were beheaded for the testimony of Jesus "  Apoc 20:4
Agreed, and the part I bolded, Fr Ripperger says that God allows/uses demons as instruments of our purification. 
Title: Re: Poking the Russian Bear
Post by: Ladislaus on September 30, 2022, 01:01:35 AM
Agreed, and the part I bolded, Fr Ripperger says that God allows/uses demons as instruments of our purification.

Do you really have to inject Father Ripperger into every thread?  He's also anti-Traditionalist in some ways.  I heard his little spiel about Trads being uncharitable, but he doesn't draw the appropriate distinctions, almost implying that any rejection in principle of various Novus Ordo practices is motivated by pride and (therefore) demon-inspired (as nearly all vices are in his view).  While there's definitely a tendency toward price that CAN be there and that we must remain on guard about, criticism of the NO is not inherently disordered.  Quite the contrary.

Even if Fr. Ripperger SAYS this, in practice he denies it.  Otherwise, we would refer any troubles we may have vis-a-vis demonic influences to Him rather than directly addressing the demons and taking them on ourselves.

By injecting him into this thread, you're merely trying to rehabilitate him after his views about demonology have been discredited as dangerous and un-Traditional.