I know the Dimond brothers are not popular here, but regardless this is an excellent debate and well worth listening to. Peter Dimond obliterates an extremely anti-Catholic protestant on the topic of Justification. Dimond's opponent is so flustered by the end that he resorts to the mention of clerical abuse scandals and other issues totally irrelevant to the topic in question. Check it out.

I'd caution against them for one more reason, the persons involved sometimes have no idea they are being recorded or that these things are put online. Even if our opponent is a heretic, we should never resort to being so unjust.

In this case it is heretic v. heretic.

I have learned a lot from the Dimond channel. But there are a couple flags against them for me:

1- They receive communion at an EO parish ?

2- That Eric Hoyle lawsuit. Okay so Eric Hoyle gave them like 1.25 million. From what I understand Eric had inherited that money and then became excited about joining the monastery.

So this lawsuit goes on for some 4 years and the Dimond brothers win and get to keep the money. The Dimond brothers argue it was a donation, Hoyle says he gave it to them under false pretenses. Hoyle said he had an agreement that 750k would be given back to him.

Yes, legally if Hoyle gave them the money then it falls under the category of "A fool and his money are soon parted."

That is a lot of money, I just cannot understand in the Christian sense why the Dimonds did not give the money back or at least not a large portion of it. It is not like the Dimonds earned that money.

So even though they won the lawsuit and they have the legal right to keep the money, I don't understand the Dimond thinking that they are justified in the moral sense of keeping that money.

Just my opinion.

Because those two individuals have ZERO sense of justice. The way they behave outwardly reveals, at least partially, their level internal of corruption.

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It's interesting to see, there are 19 comments total, so far, and they are all supportive of Br. Peter Dimond:  Could the MHFM be deleting comments against their side?  They posted the recording so they can control the comments too, correct?  Normally, I would have to edit such posts, but here I only had to index (Wintters*) one letter in one word.  Veritas Rex was the most recent post, from an agnostic "with no ax to grind" who says the debate was an easy call by academic concerns alone, and that Keith Thompson "has no Biblical evidence to support his position, and his case is weakened by his reliance on the Reformers' opinion and not Scripture."





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Marko Ivančičević
20 hours ago
 
you destroyed his religion in your opening statement. even some of his passages destroy him but he's just blind.
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Xm Flash
1 day ago
 
Keith got destroyed in this debate. Concerning 1:00:00 it was hilarious to see him getting owned on greek grammar. Yeah, total predestination is not a biblical concept, it's clear people have a will and choice in the manner of choosing God or not. Calvinists perform mental gymnastics to justify their positions. 
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ST PETER
2 days ago
 
God Bless the Dimond bros, in defending the truth Catholic faith and trampling under foot the V2 church and all of the other false Christian sects and false pagan religions.

DOMINUS VOBIScuм
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peacefullmonk
2 days ago
 
thank you for sharing this Brother it is very informational and good for a true catholic to know how to defend the churches teaching James 2:24 clearly states you need works and it is so sad to see how lost this person is thank you again for posting.
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William Burke via Google+
17 hours ago (edited)
 
Hooray Brother Peter Dimond is debating a calvinist… I hate calvinism.
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ST PETER
2 days ago
 
It's a shame that Mr Thompson rejects the Catholic position on justification. By rejecting a single article of the Catholic faith like Mr Thompson has, he has put himself outside the ark of salvation, and will no doubt perish when the flood comes.
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Joseph Gelfuso
3 hours ago
 
Brother Diamond can't these people see the truth and convert ??? I am not trying to be mean but you would think this guy is not of the age of reason to not see the truth and convert??? Are people that bad willed or am I missing something.
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Veritas Rex
13 hours ago
 
There is no doubt that Mr. Thompson has no Biblical evidence to support his position, and his case is weakened by his reliance on the Reformers' opinion and not scripture. Being an Agnostic I have no ax to grind, but in a simply academic format, Bro. Peter Dimond wins this debate hands down.
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DocDOoM1979
13 hours ago
 
It was a good debate hopefully Keith will convert to the catholic faith .
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Justin Link
1 day ago
 
Professing themselves to be wise they became fools.
Jesus and Mary I love you, save souls.
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underesteemed
1 day ago
 
One fallacy this guy pushes is that because there are false belivers, that proves that no true believer can be lost.
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Tanner Wintters  [*=n]
1 day ago
 
Thank you Bro. Peter for putting this Protestant scuм in his place.
This Keith Thompson is an absolute liar and false shepherd, we are NOT justified simply by faith alone.
We cannot, as Martin Luther, puts it "commit murder and fornication a thousand times a day" and still be saved just by believing in Jesus.
If that were the case, then the countless martyrs of the Church would not have needed to stand up for and die for the Truth. For such good works are "unnecessary".
According to "Justification through Faith Alone", we could promote the Evolution Lie, practice Marxism, support the genocidal Jєωιѕн state of Israel, but "just so long as we believe" we are saved.
In fact, converting people is a good work. So we shouldn't proselytize, even if all they have to do is "believe"?
Yet another one of the many reasons I left Protestantism. Everything about them is so hypocritical, tagged on, and improvised to fit the view of one of the worst heretics in history. (Who supposedly "invited the Devil into his a*us")
Thank you Brothers for posting this. I look forward to your next video.
May Our Lord and Our Lady bless and protect you and all other True Catholics.
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SirJCrusader777
2 days ago
 
This is the best refutation of Calvinism i have ever heard. After i abandoned Seventh day Adventism i was actually leaning towards Calvinism, but God used Most Holy Family Monastery to bring me to the True Catholic faith, and i will always be eternally grateful to God for MHFM. God bless you Brother Peter, and thank you for your defense of the true faith of Christ.
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bombardus
2 days ago
 
Interesting debate...
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lizjasso
1 day ago
 
Bro. Peter Dimond won. Easy. The other guy could not see it even if it hit him on the face.
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Benjamin Ridley
2 days ago
 
Brother Diamond, you are a brilliant arguer!
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TheHandThatMadeUs
2 days ago
 
As www.schismatic-home-aloner.com has already eloquently stated- 1) there is no salvation outside of Christ (Acts 4:12), and 2) you cannot belong to Christ if you reject parts of His revelation and/or don't adhere to His Church (Mt. 28:20; Mt. 18:17).  That means you cannot belong to Christ if you reject the Papacy (Mt. 16:18-19) or the Eucharist (John 6:53) or Confession (John 20:23) or that justification is not by faith alone (James 2:24), etc.  
Non-Catholics who claim to follow Christ actually reject His teaching in many areas.  They are thus not of Christ.  
They are as St Peter says:  2 Peter 2:2 [1] But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there shall be among you lying teachers, who shall bring in sects of perdition, and deny the Lord who bought them: bringing upon themselves swift destruction. [2] And many shall follow their riotousnesses, THROUGH WHOM THE WAY OF TRUTH SHALL BE EVIL SPOKEN OF.
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schismatic-home-aloner.com
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Ora Et Labora via Google+
2 days ago
 
Another debate!

I'm going to download to my mp3 player to listen to [it].

Thanks. Ave Maria.&#65279;
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I have posted on their YT videos and my comments have been deleted.

And I did not believe the tone or content of those comments were so far out they deserved to be censored.

Well, your comments won't be deleted here!  

Can you remember any of them?  I'd like to know the things you posted, if you can recall.  And in the future, please post here a copy of any such comments you make, so you can archive them and perhaps mention here when you noticed they were deleted.  

Two can play this game, crossbro.  I'm on YOUR side!  HAHAHAHA


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Three down votes for the opening post already. From three morons who didn't even listen to the debate, no doubt. Heh.

I posted this debate on 'Catholic Answers Forum' and they took it down and banned me for life. They gave no reason why. This seems very strange since brother Dimond did not promote sedevacantism in that debate, but instead refuted calvinism.

This must be because of their unofficial policy that there is salvation everywhere else, but there is no salvation inside the Catholic Church. Whenever anyone claims to be following the traditional teachings of the Catholic Church and not the conciliar sect, the CA moderators ban them because of their policy that there is no salvation there and only there.

The Dimond's are the target of much irrational hatred, even among the traditional Catholic community. I have no idea why.

You don't know why? The main reason is because they do not believe in BOD or BOB and they oppose and condemn those who believe in it, especially those who believe you can be saved without faith in the incarnation and the trinity.