Author Topic: Excellent docuмentary on JFK murder... (Read 5439 times)

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #60 on:** April 22, 2011, 06:56:11 PM »

Thanks for posting that, GV. Definitely worthy of a thumbs-up. Here's a few quotes from freemasons to prove to stevus that Masons are more than just "old people who play bingo and wear funny hats".

* From the book 'Morals and Dogma' by Albert Pike (past 'pope' of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ):
"The mason is familiar with the doctrine that the supreme being is a centre of light." and on page 321: "Lucifer the light-bearer. Lucifer the son of the morning. Is it he who bears the light? Doubt it not!" (This book has been called the 'bible' of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, and is given to all masons in the 4th degree.)

* On July 14,1889 Albert Pike issued formal written instruction to the 23 'Supreme (masonic) Councils' of the world. He said: "To you sovereign grand inspectors general we say this, that you may repeat it to the brethren of the 32nd, 31st, & 30th degrees. The masonic religion should by all of us initiates be maintained in the purity of the Luciferian doctrine. Yes, Lucifer is God, and the true and pure religion is the belief in Lucifer." On page 324, he identifies Lucifer as the devil: "A devil, the fallen Lucifer..."

* The occult-based 'New Age' (short for 'nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr') movement is fully masonic in origin. They published the 'NEW AGE' magazine (now called 'Scottish Rite Journal') for 100 years. Prominent new-ager David Spangler said: "The light comes from Lucifer, he is the light-bearer."

* The ALTA VENDITA was the highest Masonic Lodge in Italy in the 1800's. One of its chiefs, 'Tigrotto' stated in 1822: "CATHOLICISM MUST BE DESTROYED THROUGHOUT THE WORLD." "LET US CONSPIRE ONLY AGAINST ROME." (from booklet 'Papacy and Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ' by Msgr. Jouin, P.2)

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #61 on:** April 22, 2011, 07:01:57 PM »

Pike was an evil s.o.b. He lived and died in the US, doing his Masonic thing on this side of the pond...yet the Matrix party line (which stevie wonder apparently buys and parrots) is that Masonry over here is not really THAT bad... :scratchchin:

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #62 on:** April 22, 2011, 07:04:20 PM »

All Masonry is bad. Anyone who states other-wise is extremely naive. That's why I don't get why stevus thinks they're just harmless people who play bingo. The Freemasons have, for the most part, ruined this world. They're responsible for the infiltration of the Church, the NWO, the Board of Education, government schools, etc.

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #63 on:** April 22, 2011, 09:34:54 PM »

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Then why do you consider freemasons "just a bunch of old people who play bingo and wear funny hats"?

Because today that is mostly what they are. They have calmed down since the VCII days. Things aren't as hostile. They stilll should be avoided though as their religion is incompatible with Catholicism. They are similar to a cult.

I knew a Mason who was married to a Catholic girl. He was a nice guy. Very willing to help you out with anything you needed. It was almost like a civic/ patriotic organization to him focused on service. Obviously, I don't think Masonry is a good thing, but these people are not all scheming monsters throwing darts at the Pope's picture.

That actually leads me to ask a question. What the heck do Sedes care if the Masons further attack the anti-church? Wouldn't they support this? Don't they have nothing to fear?

Also, why the heck WOULD the Masons attack the current Church which is supposedly Masonic anyway? All Sedes should actually agree with me that there is not much in the way of a Masonic threat at all!

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #64 on:** April 22, 2011, 09:36:57 PM »

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All Masonry is bad. Anyone who states other-wise is extremely naive.

No kidding.

Do you guys even bother reading my posts or do you now consistently skim them and just write knee jerk agit-prop in response?

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #65 on:** April 22, 2011, 09:48:37 PM »

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus

Thanks for posting that, GV. Definitely worthy of a thumbs-up. Here's a few quotes from freemasons to prove to stevus that Masons are more than just "old people who play bingo and wear funny hats".

* From the book 'Morals and Dogma' by Albert Pike (past 'pope' of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ):
"The mason is familiar with the doctrine that the supreme being is a centre of light." and on page 321: "Lucifer the light-bearer. Lucifer the son of the morning. Is it he who bears the light? Doubt it not!" (This book has been called the 'bible' of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, and is given to all masons in the 4th degree.

The problem here is that the deluded Masons (including Pike) do not think "Lucifer" is the devil, but a completely separate and distinct individual from the devil who is a "good guy". Yes, this is wrong, BUT it shows they are, at least, not proclaiming to worship the devil as Satanists do.

The following is an explanation from a deluded Mason...

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"The scholars authorized by the militantly Catholic King James I to translate the Bible into current English did not use the original Hebrew texts, but used versions translated from the Catholic Vulgate Bible produced largely by St. Jerome in the fourth century. Jerome had mistranslated the Hebraic metaphor, "Day star, son of the Dawn," as "Lucifer," and over the centuries a metamorphosis took place. Lucifer the morning star became a disobedient angel, cast out of heaven to rule eternally in hell. Theologians, writers, and poets interwove the myth with the doctrine of the Fall, and in Christian tradition Lucifer is now the same as Satan, the Devil, and - ironically- the Prince of Darkness."

"So "Lucifer" is nothing more than an ancient Latin name for the morning star, the bringer of light. That can be confusing for Christians who identify Christ himself as the morning star, a term used as a central theme in many Christian sermons. Jesus refers to himself as the morning star in Revelation 22:16: "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.""

"And so there are those who do not read beyond the King James version of the Bible, who say "Lucifer is Satan: so says the Word of God," while others with knowledge of the Latin and Hebrew texts say, "No, Lucifer is the classical Roman name for the morning star, and now Jesus is the morning star." This discussion can only anger certain fundamentalists. (I have at hand an evangelical tract from a Baptist church that says, "I believe in the Infallibility and Preservation of God's Word, of which the King James 1611 authorized version is the God-guided faithful translation.")"

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #66 on:** April 22, 2011, 09:55:52 PM »

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I don't think Masonry is a good thing, but these people are not all scheming monsters throwing darts at the Pope's picture.

Newsflash...NO ONE said they are ALL scheming bastards, stevie. Your naivete/ignorance is staggering.

Congratulations on annihilating an argument that was never made in the first place... :cheers:

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #67 on:** April 22, 2011, 10:01:22 PM »

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Also, why the heck WOULD the Masons attack the current Church which is supposedly Masonic anyway? All Sedes should actually agree with me that there is not much in the way of a Masonic threat at all!

Is there no longer a threat when the lunatics run the asylum?

If your question were one tenth as clever as you seem to think, I would be glad to answer it seriously.

Go guzzle some more kewl-aid and wash down your daily Soma...

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #68 on:** April 22, 2011, 10:03:24 PM »

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I don't think Masonry is a good thing, but these people are not all scheming monsters throwing darts at the Pope's picture.

Newsflash...NO ONE said they are ALL scheming bastards, stevie. Your naivete/ignorance is staggering.

Congratulations on annihilating an argument that was never made in the first place... :cheers:

Congrats on moving lightyears ahead in your quest to be the densest man on CI!

For an English expert, you certainly have no ability to discern use of language in context. You have an uncanny ability to completely miss the point of posts, rip a line out of context, then respond to a strawman, boasting as if you did something.

BTW, still waiting for your response to Caminus and to JPII's 2nd paragraph in his Assisi address. I suppose I'll be waiting until Hell freezes over.... :geezer:

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #69 on:** April 22, 2011, 10:05:58 PM »

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Also, why the heck WOULD the Masons attack the current Church which is supposedly Masonic anyway? All Sedes should actually agree with me that there is not much in the way of a Masonic threat at all!

Is there no longer a threat when the lunatics run the asylum?

How are Masons a threat to the Church? There is no Church! Oh wait, sorry, you and your friends are the Church. I forgot. What I mean is, the masons are attacking a masonic anti-church? So what? What concern is that of yours? Why would sedes fight to save an anti-church?

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #70 on:** April 22, 2011, 10:10:27 PM »

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For an English expert, you certainly have no ability to discern use of language in context. You have an uncanny ability to completely miss the point of posts, rip a line out of context, then respond to a strawman, boasting as if you did something.

Were you looking into a mirror when you wrote this, stevie wonder?

FWIW, you did absolutely nothing to substantiate the above claim. You simply made it and congratulated yourself. Interesting... :scratchchin:

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BTW, still waiting for your response to Caminus and to JPII's 2nd paragraph in his Assisi address.

I am making you wait because you are a pushy jackass. Deal with it.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #71 on:** April 22, 2011, 10:28:36 PM »

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Then why do you consider freemasons "just a bunch of old people who play bingo and wear funny hats"?

Because today that is mostly what they are. They have calmed down since the VCII days. Things aren't as hostile. They stilll should be avoided though as their religion is incompatible with Catholicism. They are similar to a cult.

I knew a Mason who was married to a Catholic girl. He was a nice guy. Very willing to help you out with anything you needed. It was almost like a civic/ patriotic organization to him focused on service. Obviously, I don't think Masonry is a good thing, but these people are not all scheming monsters throwing darts at the Pope's picture.

That actually leads me to ask a question. What the heck do Sedes care if the Masons further attack the anti-church? Wouldn't they support this? Don't they have nothing to fear?

Also, why the heck WOULD the Masons attack the current Church which is supposedly Masonic anyway? All Sedes should actually agree with me that there is not much in the way of a Masonic threat at all!

It doesn't matter if he was a nice guy. Being nice doesn't get you to Heaven. And to say that Masons would want nothing to do with the current-day Catholic Church is ridiculous. Didn't Bishop Fellay say that there are 4 Masonic lodges operating in the Vatican? The Masons have a hold of the Church, and they're going to do everything they can to make sure they don't lose it.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #72 on:** April 22, 2011, 10:29:50 PM »

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All Masonry is bad. Anyone who states other-wise is extremely naive.

No kidding.

Do you guys even bother reading my posts or do you now consistently skim them and just write knee jerk agit-prop in response?

I read through your posts good before I post. I do that with almost anyone's post I am replying to unless the post is extremely long.