The quotes themselves are rather interesting, and I agree that we will probably see a cινιℓ ωαr in this country, unless something else intervenes first (police state, war, economic collapse, etc.)

Though I disagree with these "good-old boys" in some ways. For instance, I see NO problem with a hispanic family wanting to keep a good Catholic culture and completely avoid the so-called "American culture". Heck, even >I< avoid the American culture! (we all know what that consists of...don't get me started) and I was born here, 100% "white"/non-hispanic.


"You old white people.  It is your duty to die."


HISPANIC LEADERS SPEAK OUT!


"Go back to Boston!  Go back to Plymouth Rock,  Pilgrims!  Get out!  We are the future.  You are old and tired.  Go on. We have beaten you.  Leave like beaten rats.  You old white people.  It is your  duty to die . . Through love of having children, we are going to take over."  - Augustin Cebada, Brown Berets.


"They're afraid we're going to take over the governmental institutions and other institutions.  They're right.   We will take them over . . We are here to stay." Richard Alatorre, Los Angeles City Council.



"The American Southwest seems to be slowly returning to the jurisdiction of Mexico without firing a single shot." Excelsior, the national newspaper of Mexico:



"We have an aging white America.  They are not making babies  They are dying.  The explosion is in our population . .. I love it.  They are shitting in their pants with fear.  I love it." Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas



"Remember 187--proposition to deny taxpayer funds for services to non-citizens--was the last gasp  of white America in California." Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party,



"We are politicizing every single one of these new citizens that are becoming citizens of this country . . .  I gotta tell you that a lot of people are saying, "I'm going to go out  there and vote because I want to pay them back." Gloria Molina, Los Angeles County Supervisor,



"California is going to be a Hispanic state. Anyone who doesn't like it should leave." Mario Obledo, California Coalition of Hispanic Organizations and California State Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare under Governor Jerry  Brown, also awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Bill Clinton



"We are practicing 'La  Reconquista' in California." Jose Pescador Osuna, Mexican Consul General ,



"We need to avoid a white backlash by using codes understood by Latinos . . . " Professor Fernando Guerra, Loyola Marymount University



Are these just the words of a few extremists?  Consider that we could fill up many pages with such quotes.  Also, consider that these are mainstream Mexican leaders.



THE U.S. VS MEXICO: On February 15, 1998, the U.S. and Mexican soccer teams met at the Los Angeles Coliseum.  The crowd was overwhelmingly pro-Mexican even though most lived in this country.  They booed during the National Anthem and U.S. flags were held upside down.  As the match progressed, supporters of the U.S. team  were insulted, pelted with projectiles, punched and spat upon.  Beer and trash  were thrown at the U.S. pl ayers before and after the match. The coach of the  U.S. team, Steve Sampson said, "This was the most painful experience I have  ever had in this profession."



Did you know that immigrants from Mexico and other non-European countries  can come to this country and get preferences in jobs, education, and  government contracts?



Corporate America has signed on to the idea that minorities and third world immigrants should get special, privileged status.  Some examples are  Exxon,Texaco, Merrill Lynch, Boeing, Paine Weber, Starbucks and many more.







DID YOU KNOW?: Did you know that Mexico regularly intercedes on the side of the defense in criminal cases involving Mexican nationals?  Did you know that Mexico has NEVER extradited a Mexican national accused of murder in the U.S. in spite of agreements to do so?  According to the L.A Times, Orange Count y, California is home to 275 gangs with 17,000 members; 98% of which are Mexican and Asian.  How's your county doing?



Is education important to you? Here are the words of a teacher who spent over 20 years in the Los Angeles School system.  "Imagine teachers in classes containing 30-40 students of widely varying attention spans and motivation, many of whom aren't fluent in English.   Educators seek learning materials likely to reach the majority of students  and that means fewer words and math problems and more pictures and multicultural references."



WHEN I WAS YOUNG: When I was young, I remember hearing about the immigrants that came through Ellis Island.  They wanted to learn English.  They wanted to breath free. They wanted to become Americans.  Now too many immigrants come here with demands.  They demand to be taught in their own language.  They demand special privileges--affirmative action.  They demand ethnic studies that glorify  their culture.

My post wasn't a complete one, and I should have clarified:

The quotes (above) as well as most "Give us our country (southwest USA) back" pro-Mexican groups are racist, un-Catholic, violent, and evil in general. They have nothing to do with bringing about a Catholic order -- in Mexico, the "part of Mexico they lost to the gringos", or elsewhere.

However, in theory, you could have an immigrant family (like the Irish several decades ago) who wished to keep their REAL (Old World, Catholic) culture, and be "different" from all their White Ango-Saxon Protestant neighbors. There would be no problem with that.

Of course most Irish didn't do that -- in fact, they were VERY much into "blending in" and being more American than the Americans. However, that isn't a necessary trait for every Catholic immigrant group that existed or will exist.

Matthew

I should also define what I mean by American "culture" -- or that which I despise:

Joe and Jane Sixpack get married (at some Protestant church) where they pay lip service to staying together, etc. after they both graduate from college.
They EACH start out with student loan debt around $20,000.
They keep both their cars, which they are still making payments on. Each car is worth $26,000, and is only 1/5 of the way paid off.
They buy a large cookie-cutter house in the suburbs -- 3200 sq. feet, for $180,000.
They both work, socking away money in their 401K and savings accounts. They go on vacations, shop, watch TV, waste tons of time on pleasure, and in general act like they did when they were single. They spend all their extra money on "stuff" and "having fun" -- never a thought to paying off the mortgage early, paying off their student loans early, etc.
They practice birth control until around age 30 (6 years after they were married).
They have 2 kids -- Tristan and Haley -- exactly 2 years apart, on whom they spend tons of money (buying everything new -- less than 2% comes from garage sales).
After the birth of their 2nd child, Haley, Jane Sixpack has her tubes tied.
Their kids are bombarded with stimuli, so that they might be "geniuses" -- you know, like so many Baby Einsteins!
The kids have countless toys, mostly the kind that need batteries, and they start watching TV at 6 months.
They don't get much time with their parents, though, because they spend their days at daycare or public school, and at night their parents are busy working out how to retire at age 50 -- you know, right after Haley turns 18 and goes off to college!
Each child gets his/her own bedroom and TV set in the huge, cookie-cutter suburban house. What a great way to learn how to share and get along with others...NOT!
Joe and Jane Sixpack start a college fund for each of their 2 kids. After all, EVERYONE has the talent needed for "higher education"...right?
Haley starts wearing shirts which expose her navel at age 3.
Tristan watches countless cartoons, and his playtime behavior reflects this. Instead of being creative, he is merely regurgitating and "acting out" what has been poured in his head.
Haley and Tristan badger their parents for countless overpriced "licensed toys" connected with the movies and cartoons they are into.
Both children get everything they want, as far as material things go.
After the birth of Haley, Jane trades in her car -- to put toward a brand new SUV for their "big family" which modern science has capped at 4. "We can't get by with a regular car anymore -- we have a FAMILY now... we need to be able to transport the whole soccer team..." Note that they still have 2 cars, even though one of them is huge and they rarely go ANYWHERE as a family anyhow.
Most days, Joe and Jane do their own thing, while each child stays in his/her room watching their own TV shows, talking on their own cell phones, chatting on the Internet, etc.
Tristan is enrolled in soccer, and Haley gets involved in Ballet. The family SUV has two stickers which advertise this fact.
Both kids start dating at 10, and lose their virginity before age 13.
Their teen years are marked with rebellion and hostility toward parents. Their empty suburban lifestyle, lack of moral training, and the influence of TV and peers cause them to suffer from depression (Tristan) and anorexia (Haley).
Joe, in his mid 40's, has a mid-life crisis and starts talking a bit too much to the young female secretary at work. Since the Sixpacks go to a mega-church, they aren't taught much about fallen human nature and Original Sin.
Soon, Joe is in an extra-marital affair. But surprise! Jane was also, meanwhile, involved with a man at her law office. When you spend more hours per day with co-workers than you do with your own husband, those kind of things happen...
They get divorced, and there are messy court proceedings.
Joe Sixpack is ordered to pay alimony/child support, which almost assures him a place in the rank of the poor for the rest of his natural life. He becomes bitter and cynical with regard to marriage.
Jane Sixpack gets married to the man she was having an affair with, and grows old kicking and screaming every step of the way. She dyes her hair, spends hundreds of dollars a month on cosmetics, anti-ageing cream, anti-wrinkle cream, etc.
Joe Sixpack begins taking depression medication, which makes his life even worse. Later, after many years spent alone, and possessing nothing after 50 years of life (except for many thousands of dollars of debt), he takes an overdose of depression medication, killing himself. He dies in despair and he enters the everlasting flames of Hell.
Jane Sixpack, around age 45, pays to have her tubes "untied" so she can have a baby with her new "husband". The procedure fails, however. Resigned to the fact she can no longer have children, she throws herself into her work.
Around age 55, she is involved in a fatal car crash. She is also condemned to eternal misery and torture in the fires of Hell.


It is unbelievably sad how often this tragedy plays itself out in millions of families across America. The details are different, many different events can color things up, but the events listed above are ALL TOO COMMON and are mostly a direct result of a protestant American culture.

That post about Joe and Jane Sixpack is a superb bit of on-target sustained satire. Worthy of St Jerome. (I won't say Juvenal, because if it's cruel it's cruel to be kind in the Christian sense.)

My only question would be: what happened when Joe saw THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST? (And I think it would more likely be Joe who was favorably impressed.)