Author Topic: Ok, conspiracy deniers - I dare you (Read 948 times)

Matthew · « **on:** June 23, 2016, 11:27:15 AM »

The idea of fαℓѕє fℓαg attacks to initiate a desired war is nothing new.

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This is not an "alt news" venue, but rather a channel that considers what would have changed in the world if World War 2 had a different victor, if Abraham Lincoln hadn't been shot, etc.

But just look at the evidence -- "Operation Northwoods" is right there, plain as day, for all to see. It's been de-classified now.

They were going to use fαℓѕє fℓαg terror attacks to get us into a war with Cuba. They even mentioned shooting down passenger aircraft, and hijacking passenger aircraft!

President Kennedy (a Catholic) wouldn't go for it. But if he were George Bush, he would have.

Yes Kennedy had serious problems with the 6th and 9th commandments. However he still was raised Catholic and something inside him (a conscience?) wouldn't let him do such a dastardly thing.

A Catholic entering into a state of Mortal Sin doesn't lose ALL his Catholic sensibility and natural virtues in one fell swoop. That takes a long time.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #1 on:** June 23, 2016, 01:56:00 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

The idea of fαℓѕє fℓαg attacks to initiate a desired war is nothing new.

Agreed.

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President Kennedy (a Catholic) wouldn't go for it. But if he were George Bush, he would have.

Would that be _Senior or "_W" -?

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Yes Kennedy had serious problems with the 6th and 9th commandments. However he still was raised Catholic and something inside him (a conscience?) wouldn't let him do such a dastardly thing.

A Catholic entering into a state of Mortal Sin doesn't lose ALL his Catholic sensibility and natural virtues in one fell swoop. That takes a long time.

Agreed.

What does that say for Protestants, i.e., a Methodist?

TKGS · « **Reply #2 on:** June 23, 2016, 02:08:23 PM »

Clearly this was not a conspiracy.

This was an officially proposed government program.

Oath Keeper · « **Reply #3 on:** June 23, 2016, 07:18:57 PM »

I agree there is docuмented proof that the US government and other organizations have collaborated to produce fαℓѕє fℓαgs and manipulate public options, they likely do so to this day, however I have a problem with nowadays absolutely everything being a" fαℓѕє fℓαg". Everything. There is nothing that conspiratards won't say is a fαℓѕє fℓαg, secret operation, hidden agenda, nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr, vaccines, 9-11, every mass shooting, every vote, every article, any proposed law, ups in the stock market, down in The stock market, chemtrails, nothing outside of your morning paper is an illuminati agend!

I agree there are agendas, mass manipulating, and an agend of a nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr, however I'm of the opinion of two things: Extaordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Finally, keep in mind over obsession in conspiracy could also being leading you into misinformation and deception in itself. A lot of these places are making business off of apocotalk, selling you seeds, dried food, and tin foil hats. Watch and pray is the ultimate advice.

TKGS · « **Reply #4 on:** June 23, 2016, 07:21:53 PM »

Clearly, Oath Keeper is a CIA plant working for the Mossad. :roll-laugh1:

Oath Keeper · « **Reply #5 on:** June 23, 2016, 07:33:18 PM »

Quote from: TKGS

Clearly, Oath Keeper is a CIA plant working for the Mossad. :roll-laugh1:

As a CIA shill, I'll give that an upvote!

St Ignatius · « **Reply #6 on:** June 24, 2016, 09:36:04 PM »

For those who are skeptical of so called "conspiracy theorists," should become familiar with the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion." It is not just another fictional work, that many would have you believe. It was brought to the attention of world, by Pope Leo XIII if I'm not mistaken. Things become a lot easier to dicern when you compare current events with a docuмent that is over a century old.

Oath Keeper · « **Reply #7 on:** June 25, 2016, 04:41:55 AM »

I'm not skeptical. I just feel some critical thinking is in order to differentiate real news from gossiping and fear mongering.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #8 on:** June 25, 2016, 12:17:51 PM »

Quote from: St Ignatius

For those who are skeptical of so called "conspiracy theorists," should become familiar with the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion." It is not just another fictional work, that many would have you believe. It was brought to the attention of world, by Pope Leo XIII if I'm not mistaken. Things become a lot easier to dicern when you compare current events with a docuмent that is over a century old.

http://ddickerson.igc.org/The_Protocols_of_the_Learned_Elders_of_Zion.pdf

JezusDeKoning · « **Reply #9 on:** June 25, 2016, 12:34:22 PM »

Recent events, I don't know about. I'd need more empirical evidence.

But it's no secret that the 1960s was just one giant American fαℓѕє fℓαg.