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Title: OJ Simpson died
Post by: Matthew on April 11, 2024, 12:50:51 PM
Just heard it on the news.

Well, he's getting justice now!

The justice of man is HIT OR MISS at best. Money, fame, and a good lawyer can allow one to escape justice in this world.
But the justice of God is perfect and inescapable. Strive to be right with God. That is *all* that matters.
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: Yeti on April 11, 2024, 01:36:58 PM
Money, fame, and a good lawyer can allow one to escape justice in this world.
.

In his case it wasn't any of those things that helped him escape justice, but something else about him ...
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: rosarytrad on April 11, 2024, 02:28:21 PM
... something else about him ...
... and his charismatic lawyer ...

"If the glove don't fit, into the bottomless pit!"
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: Ladislaus on April 11, 2024, 03:43:58 PM
I'm 99% convinced OJ didn't do it, but rather his son did, and he took the fall to protect him.  There's very solid evidence to back that up.
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: Ladislaus on April 11, 2024, 03:45:03 PM
In his case it wasn't any of those things that helped him escape justice, but something else about him ...

Yeah, the fact that he didn't actually commit the murders.
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: Matthew on April 11, 2024, 03:50:06 PM
I'm 99% convinced OJ didn't do it, but rather his son did, and he took the fall to protect him.  There's very solid evidence to back that up.

I've never heard that theory before. I just kind of grew up and was taught that OJ was guilty as sin. I was a senior in HS during the whole low-speed chase, highly public trial, etc.

I don't understand

A) why a father would take the Murderer label (go to prison?) for his son. That's some serious, HEROIC levels of selfless love, charity, and devotion there. Is OJ a literal saint?

B) Why would the son kill these individuals? I've never heard of a child getting involved in relationship-based disputes of their parents. Oh I'm sure it's happened sometime in history, but it's EXCEEDINGLY rare to say the least. Most kids aren't that "emotionally invested" in their parents' relationships to the point they would commit murder. The sex life of one's parents is usually something children would "rather not think about". 
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: Ladislaus on April 11, 2024, 03:50:23 PM
Here's a summary of the evidence, but I've seen pictures of some of the items discussed, etc.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/oj-simpson-book-jason-simpson-william-dear_n_1397583

Some evidence isn't cited here.  Goldman held a black belt in some martial art and his hands black and blue, where he clearly put up a fight, and OJ was stripped naked and examined, and found not to have a scratch on him.  That wasn't cited in the article, but the evidence against OJ's son Jason is very solid.  There were fingerprints found at the scene that didn't match either OJ or the victims.  Jason later let payments lapse on a storage locker, and the PI purchased its contents at auction.  In it was found a knife (with his initial on it) that forensic pathologists concluded was 100% consistent with the weapon that caused the wounds.  Jason had just gotten in trouble for attacking someone with a knife, and wrote in his journal about how he was losing control to rage and would kill someone with a knife.  PI found pictures of him wearing the hat that was found at the crime scene.  He falsified time cards to give him an alibi.  Etc. etc.  There's a ton of evidence that Jason Simpson did it and OJ knew about it, and decided to take the fall for him (though he got acquitted).
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: Matthew on April 11, 2024, 04:02:29 PM
OJ deserved, then, to be thrown in jail for obstruction of justice, and conspiring to keep a murderer free on the streets instead of in jail where he belongs.

Either way, O.J. was an evil man.
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: Ladislaus on April 11, 2024, 06:58:05 PM
OJ deserved, then, to be thrown in jail for obstruction of justice, and conspiring to keep a murderer free on the streets instead of in jail where he belongs.

Either way, O.J. was an evil man.

Sure, that was a crime too, but covering for a child vs. murdering two people entail dramatically different degrees of evil.  Many people have tried to cover for their children out of a misguided love and loyalty.

OJ was obviously no saint, but no one has ever claimed that he was.
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: SimpleMan on April 11, 2024, 07:31:13 PM
Here's a summary of the evidence, but I've seen pictures of some of the items discussed, etc.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/oj-simpson-book-jason-simpson-william-dear_n_1397583

Some evidence isn't cited here.  Goldman held a black belt in some martial art and his hands black and blue, where he clearly put up a fight, and OJ was stripped naked and examined, and found not to have a scratch on him.  That wasn't cited in the article, but the evidence against OJ's son Jason is very solid.  There were fingerprints found at the scene that didn't match either OJ or the victims.  Jason later let payments lapse on a storage locker, and the PI purchased its contents at auction.  In it was found a knife (with his initial on it) that forensic pathologists concluded was 100% consistent with the weapon that caused the wounds.  Jason had just gotten in trouble for attacking someone with a knife, and wrote in his journal about how he was losing control to rage and would kill someone with a knife.  PI found pictures of him wearing the hat that was found at the crime scene.  He falsified time cards to give him an alibi.  Etc. etc.  There's a ton of evidence that Jason Simpson did it and OJ knew about it, and decided to take the fall for him (though he got acquitted).

I've always thought that while OJ was almost certainly "in on it", that he had an accomplice or accomplices, and he may not have actually committed the murders.  The son is as likely as any, and more so than many.
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: Ladislaus on April 12, 2024, 06:27:44 AM
I've always thought that while OJ was almost certainly "in on it", that he had an accomplice or accomplices, and he may not have actually committed the murders.  The son is as likely as any, and more so than many.

Given what's known about his son, his admitted fantasies about knifing someone, his having a short time earlier attacked a former employer with a knife, his issues with rage, and then the physical evidence, including the knife found in his storage locker, a picture of him wearing the same knitted cap as what was found on the scene of the murders, and the lack of any physical evidence against OJ (not a scratch on his entire body while Goldberg's hands had been beaten to a pulp) ... it all adds up to the son having done it.  It's unclear whether OJ was there at the time or showed up afterwards.  He's certainly complicit in covering up the crime, but he almost certainly didn't do it.

Many people have been wrongly convicted because the lazy police "zero in" on a prime suspect, putting blinders on, so that they ignore and "don't notice" other viable suspects, but then they don't have big money to spend on high-profile defense attorneys either.
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: rosarytrad on April 12, 2024, 07:51:21 AM
I've heard the theory before and also found it credible. I almost mentioned it. It's very intriguing.
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: TheRealMcCoy on April 12, 2024, 08:58:07 AM
Can someone help me out with locating Church doctrine on praying for reprobates who die without repenting?  I wonder what the value is in such an activity.
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat on April 12, 2024, 09:57:44 AM

Well, he's getting justice now!

He got temporal justice, too. God afflicted him with prostate cancer which killed him. That's a bad way to die.

Regarding OJ's victims, I have no sympathy for them: a race-traitor whore and a Christ-murdering Jєω.  
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: Soubirous on April 12, 2024, 10:07:44 AM
Can someone help me out with locating Church doctrine on praying for reprobates who die without repenting?  I wonder what the value is in such an activity.

The general premise is that God is outside of time. If we pray, it is possible that these are heard in a retroactive sort of way.

Also, as mere mortals we can never know with absolute certainty what goes on in the soul during a dying person's last moments. That is between that soul and God. 
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: Mark 79 on April 12, 2024, 10:39:20 AM
The general premise is that God is outside of time. If we pray, it is possible that these are heard in a retroactive sort of way.

Also, as mere mortals we can never know with absolute certainty what goes on in the soul during a dying person's last moments. That is between that soul and God.
Bravo!
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: Matthew on April 12, 2024, 10:55:42 AM
Yes, conspiring in, participating in, a murder so as to make it go off successfully is still a crime.

Should the getaway driver get a lesser sentence, compared to the other members of the "crew" who actually robbed the bank? I think not.

If O.J. helped his son literally "get away with murder", that's still a serious crime. Not just sentimental "helping his son". You can sentimentally help your son by taking out a mortgage on your paid-off house to help him, etc. there are many things like that which parents have done. But when you help him KILL A PERSON(S) WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES that is pretty grave!

He's not just "not a saint". That would describe most of us here on CathInfo! OJ was much worse than that. He deserved prison.
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: Yeti on April 12, 2024, 10:58:44 AM
B) Why would the son kill these individuals? I've never heard of a child getting involved in relationship-based disputes of their parents. Oh I'm sure it's happened sometime in history, but it's EXCEEDINGLY rare to say the least. Most kids aren't that "emotionally invested" in their parents' relationships to the point they would commit murder. The sex life of one's parents is usually something children would "rather not think about".
.

Yeah, the motive is definitely missing here, I think. Why would someone kill his father's paramour because she runs off with some other guy? I'm sure it's happened, but as far as motives for murder go, it would definitely be unusual, I think.
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: 2Vermont on April 12, 2024, 11:04:11 AM
Yes, conspiring in, participating in, a murder so as to make it go off successfully is still a crime.

Should the getaway driver get a lesser sentence, compared to the other members of the "crew" who actually robbed the bank? I think not.

If O.J. helped his son literally "get away with murder", that's still a serious crime. Not just sentimental "helping his son". You can sentimentally help your son by taking out a mortgage on your paid-off house to help him, etc. there are many things like that which parents have done. But when you help him KILL A PERSON(S) WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES that is pretty grave!

He's not just "not a saint". That would describe most of us here on CathInfo! OJ was much worse than that. He deserved prison.
OK.  Looking at the spiritual rather than the temporal:

Let's just say that OJ was Catholic and repented/had Last Rites before death.  What would Catholic teaching be here?  Would that be enough, or would he have to go public with his repentance to be properly absolved?
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: Ladislaus on April 12, 2024, 11:22:21 AM
OK.  Looking at the spiritual rather than the temporal:

Let's just say that OJ was Catholic and repented/had Last Rites before death.  What would Catholic teaching be here?  Would that be enough, or would he have to go public with his repentance to be properly absolved?

There's no requirement to be "public" outside the Confessional to be validly absolved from your sins.  Now, his lack of public repentance might entail some temporal punishment.
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: Ladislaus on April 12, 2024, 11:28:47 AM
The general premise is that God is outside of time. If we pray, it is possible that these are heard in a retroactive sort of way.

Also, as mere mortals we can never know with absolute certainty what goes on in the soul during a dying person's last moments. That is between that soul and God.

Right, but we do have to be careful about any implication such as publicly offering prayers or requesting prayers for him, or even when praying ourselves, that it's possible for him to have been saved unless he had first become Catholic (I don't know if he was ever baptized, i.e. at least as a youth, depending on what denomination his parents belonged to).  At best we pray that God did give him some light of repentance, perhaps of faith, before his death ... to at the very least mitigate his eternal suffering.  But if we offer such prayers without the careful qualification that we're praying for graces of conversion in the past, it could lead to the scandal that we believe there's a hope for salvation outside the Church or while persisting in public sin (though in OJ's case, the sins were in the past).
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: Ladislaus on April 12, 2024, 11:33:32 AM
https://www.christianpost.com/news/oj-simpson-dies-from-cancer-family-asks-for-privacy-and-grace.html
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About 10 years later, a jury convicted Simpson of armed robbery and other felonies after he led five men into a confrontation with two sports memorabilia dealers in a Las Vegas hotel room. Two of the men with Simpson had guns.

He served nine years in the Lovelock Correctional Center in Nevada before he was released on parole in October 2017.

Before his release, Simpson's former manager Norman Pardo told The Enquirer that his client found God in prison and had been ministering to inmates. He reportedly even converted his white supremacist cellmate to Christianity.

"O.J. is very religious now, and he's been counseling other inmates with Bible studies for months," Pardo said in the report. "When I talk to him on the phone, all he wants to discuss is religion. He's obsessed!"

Perhaps, based on this, he was baptized ... and in the final moments of his life (as he lay dying of cancer) may have received some lights about the Catholic faith.  God only knows.  In public, however, the presumption is that he died outside the Church and was not saved.
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: SimpleMan on April 12, 2024, 11:39:14 AM
OK.  Looking at the spiritual rather than the temporal:

Let's just say that OJ was Catholic and repented/had Last Rites before death.  What would Catholic teaching be here?  Would that be enough, or would he have to go public with his repentance to be properly absolved?
This is just my speculation here (based upon nothing more than what I perceive to be common sense), but I have always thought that repentance and confession of any sin that has involved another person in loss (whether material, psychological, or spiritual), has to entail making those losses good, and repairing whatever damage was done, insofar as the penitent is able.  I would think --- and, again, I'd welcome good education on this --- that the priest can and should make such satisfaction, and the penitent's willingness to make that satisfaction, a condition of absolution.  Stay with me on this.

I have gotten some "pushback" in discussion with other Catholics on this matter, to the effect that requiring such reparation would involve disclosing the contents of a confession.  I really don't think so.  To my mind, it says nothing about whether one has been to confession or not.  Let's say that I kill someone and bury the body somewhere.  There is no evidence of my crime, and the person just goes missing, much to the anguish of their loved ones.  Then I get the grace of repentance and confess the murder.  Why can the priest not make turning myself in, and suffering the consequences (prison, perhaps even the death penalty, as well as being willing to make the victim's family whole if they pursue a wrongful death civil lawsuit, as the Goldmans did), a condition of administering absolution?  If I am absolved, and then make no one aware that I killed the person, I am leaving their family in agony, never knowing what happened to their loved one.  They search in vain, and all the while, I'm sitting back knowing what happened, and keeping my mouth shut.

Then take it a step further.  Someone else is charged with the murder, and through circuмstantial evidence, that a jury accepts, that person is convicted of the murder, goes to prison, perhaps even gets the death penalty, and their estate is sued for wrongful death reparations.  All the while, I am just sitting back, letting it happen, and now I've wronged not one person (by murdering them and burying the body), but two, in letting an innocent man take the rap for the murder.

The same holds true if, for instance, I steal someone's car and hide it in my garage.  (Maybe I've just always wanted a car like that, and am content to sit in it, in the garage, and have the contentment of finally having such a car.)  I then become accused in conscience, go to confession, and confess the sin of stealing the car.  Don't I have to give that car back?  And if I do, am I supposed to drive it to the person's house in the dead of night and leave the keys on the dashboard, slinking away in the dark and somehow making my way home, all in the name of not revealing that I was the thief, all in the name of not disclosing that I confessed stealing the car?  Or do I simply "man up", drive the car to the person's home, knock on the door, say "hey, I stole your car, and I'm sorry I did it, here are the keys, could you please not call the police and tell them I stole it, keep me out of trouble?".  That doesn't tell the person that I've been to confession.  It simply tells him that I stole his car and I'm bringing it back.  I'm entirely at his mercy as to whether he calls the police or not, but that's what I get for having stolen the car.  Temporal punishment, as it were.

TLDR, can a priest make restitution, and any consequences that come of it, a condition for absolving a sin that involved another person incurring loss?  And if not, why not?
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: SimpleMan on April 12, 2024, 11:45:52 AM
https://www.christianpost.com/news/oj-simpson-dies-from-cancer-family-asks-for-privacy-and-grace.html
Perhaps, based on this, he was baptized ... and in the final moments of his life (as he lay dying of cancer) may have received some lights about the Catholic faith.  God only knows.  In public, however, the presumption is that he died outside the Church and was not saved.

Mr Simpson professed to being some sort of Christian, presumably Protestant, but not all such people see baptism as absolutely essential to be considered a Christian.  My uncle, who received the ministrations of a Protestant pastor before he died (my father, his brother, even paid for lodging and meals for the pastor and his wife, as the medical center was two hours away and they had to stay overnight, and my uncle didn't have the money to pay for something like that), and made his profession of faith, but AFAIK was never baptized.  Their sect believed in full immersion, and I guess there was no feasible way to do that.  I really want to believe that my uncle had baptism of desire through sheer ignorance of its necessity (not going to get into any BOD debates here).
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: Pax Vobis on April 12, 2024, 11:46:31 AM
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TLDR, can a priest make restitution, and any consequences that come of it, a condition for absolving a sin that involved another person incurring loss?  And if not, why not?
Yes, I believe he could.  Stealing is a great example; restitution must be made before absolution is received.  Murder is the stealing of life and the requirement to "turn oneself in" would be consistent with this principle.

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I have gotten some "pushback" in discussion with other Catholics on this matter, to the effect that requiring such reparation would involve disclosing the contents of a confession.  I really don't think so.
Agree.  The seal of confession binds the priest.  It does not bind the priest from forcing a penitent to "out" himself.  In certain circuмstances, it's necessary (i.e. murder).  In the case of theft, you could make an anonymous restitution (in some cases).


However, in the Middle Ages, public penances were common (which necessarily required the penitent to make others aware of his sins).  But this was usually for public scandals (i.e. adultery, theft) where everyone already knew who did what.
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: SimpleMan on April 12, 2024, 11:56:05 AM
Yes, I believe he could.  Stealing is a great example; restitution must be made before absolution is received.  Murder is the stealing of life and the requirement to "turn oneself in" would be consistent with this principle.
Agree.  The seal of confession binds the priest.  It does not bind the priest from forcing a penitent to "out" himself.  In certain circuмstances, it's necessary (i.e. murder).  In the case of theft, you could make an anonymous restitution (in some cases).


However, in the Middle Ages, public penances were common (which necessarily required the penitent to make others aware of his sins).  But this was usually for public scandals (i.e. adultery, theft) where everyone already knew who did what.

Thank you.  This is the clarification I needed.  Perhaps I just didn't explain it correctly when I got the "pushback" to the effect of "the priest cannot require you to do anything that would indicate you'd committed the crime [and been absolved in confession]".  That would be ludicrous --- by that reasoning, no one could ever make restitution for any sin, when that restitution involves admitting to the injured person that you'd actually committed the sin.
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: Soubirous on April 12, 2024, 12:31:01 PM
Right, but we do have to be careful about any implication such as publicly offering prayers or requesting prayers for him, or even when praying ourselves, that it's possible for him to have been saved unless he had first become Catholic (I don't know if he was ever baptized, i.e. at least as a youth, depending on what denomination his parents belonged to).  At best we pray that God did give him some light of repentance, perhaps of faith, before his death ... to at the very least mitigate his eternal suffering.  But if we offer such prayers without the careful qualification that we're praying for graces of conversion in the past, it could lead to the scandal that we believe there's a hope for salvation outside the Church or while persisting in public sin (though in OJ's case, the sins were in the past).

Yes, the bolded distinction above also speaks to the difficulty sometimes of the actual application of guiding principles. Many discussions about salvation can get mired if the particulars of extreme cases are allowed to intrude on understanding what the Church teaches. 

One example of a person known to be baptized and within the Church (granted, "within" if only in a manner of speaking), is LC Marcial Maciel who, after all his public sin and scandal, was said to have refused Last Rites and even the possibility of a final pardon. To have been in the room and witnessed that scene must have been spiritually brutal. After seeing that, could one hesitate to pray privately for this soul? Can't be easy. 
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: josefamenendez on April 12, 2024, 01:18:50 PM
Yikes!

I was surprised that I actually felt bad when I heard of OJ's death. Back in the 90's I was certain that he was terribly guilty and the acquittal was a sham. These were the times before real internet use and all of our news came from MSM

Now after almost 30 years retrospection, and realizing that most of these public politically or celebrity scandals and crimes are often times fαℓѕє fℓαgs, partially staged, covered-up for something worse , distractions or satanic rituals, I'm not quite sure about what I feel about OJ.
He may have killed them, he may have covered for his son or it may have been all theatre. It was 5 years of televised super ratings for the cable networks.

OJ may have been as much of a (willing) victim of TPTB than as a perpetrator. I don't know.

All I know now is that even the elect will be deceived if the days are not shortened. I rarely believe my eyes anymore unless it is all filtered through through scripture and the Church.
So much deception
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: Bonaventure on April 12, 2024, 02:13:53 PM
I'm 99% convinced OJ didn't do it, but rather his son did, and he took the fall to protect him.  There's very solid evidence to back that up.

This book here builds quite a compelling case that it was indeed the Juice's son who committed the murders:

https://www.amazon.com/J-Innocent-Can-Prove-Shocking/dp/1629146552/
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: 2Vermont on April 12, 2024, 02:17:35 PM
Thank you.  This is the clarification I needed.  Perhaps I just didn't explain it correctly when I got the "pushback" to the effect of "the priest cannot require you to do anything that would indicate you'd committed the crime [and been absolved in confession]". That would be ludicrous --- by that reasoning, no one could ever make restitution for any sin, when that restitution involves admitting to the injured person that you'd actually committed the sin.
Too bad priests don't require sɛҳuąƖ predators to out themselves.  But maybe they go to each other for absolution.
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: Matthew on April 12, 2024, 03:34:34 PM
Let's just say that after the Restoration, when a (traditional) Catholic monarchy is established in America, and Christ the King reigns in the public space,
the National Sex Offender Registry will NOT be done away with.

In other words, modern America is doing THIS ONE THING right, at least.
In this one small area, a Traditional Catholic monarchy or government couldn't do any better. Having a public, national Sex Offender registry is 100% consonant with Catholic teaching, morality, and doctrine. Completely a good idea, from a Catholic standpoint.
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: Yeti on April 12, 2024, 04:09:16 PM
the National Sex Offender Registry will NOT be done away with.
.

It will be a necrology. :trollface:
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: SimpleMan on April 12, 2024, 07:23:31 PM
Too bad priests don't require sɛҳuąƖ predators to out themselves.  But maybe they go to each other for absolution.

I've wondered just how those confessions go, assuming they make them.

I think this is one time that the faithful wouldn't be wrong to make such speculations.
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: SimpleMan on April 12, 2024, 07:28:39 PM
Let's just say that after the Restoration, when a (traditional) Catholic monarchy is established in America, and Christ the King reigns in the public space,
the National Sex Offender Registry will NOT be done away with.

In other words, modern America is doing THIS ONE THING right, at least.
In this one small area, a Traditional Catholic monarchy or government couldn't do any better. Having a public, national Sex Offender registry is 100% consonant with Catholic teaching, morality, and doctrine. Completely a good idea, from a Catholic standpoint.

I'm totally in favor of having a national sex offender registry.

The various lists of priests who have been sex abusers, such as https://www.bishop-accountability.org/ (https://www.bishop-accountability.org/) , are also a good thing.  I'll bet there's many a prelate who wishes that [CENSORED] Internet had never been created!  It's empowered the faithful, and that's not a good thing if you're trying to teach error or cover up shenanigans.
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
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Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
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Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: alaric on April 13, 2024, 02:36:49 PM
I'm 99% convinced OJ didn't do it, but rather his son did, and he took the fall to protect him.  There's very solid evidence to back that up.
He did it, they have/had all the evidence, he even admitted it years later. He's surely guilty as the sun will rise on the east tomorrow, don't buy into wild stories about his kid, it's all bs.



Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: alaric on April 13, 2024, 02:56:02 PM
Just heard it on the news.

Well, he's getting justice now!

The justice of man is HIT OR MISS at best. Money, fame, and a good lawyer can allow one to escape justice in this world.
But the justice of God is perfect and inescapable. Strive to be right with God. That is *all* that matters.
He should of received it in this world, they had every bit of evidence and indication in the world he did it. I remember when he got off and all the blacks were celebrating ( for killing whitey) him getting away with it, that this country and justice system was a joke, he only got off because he was BLACK, that's it. It was right then and there I knew they would eventually legitimizes genocide against whites and destruction of everything we built. I clearly remember the Rodney King riots where they were openly attacking whites, just for being WHITE, even on TV at that, and they STILL got away with the violence and murder. It was open war against whitey, supported by a Jєωey rigged system and it's all been downhill from there. 

Just look at the trayvon martin nonsense up to st George Floyd, and now they are literally smashing old white women in the face in NYC, and getting away with it. If they dared to that back in my day, they would have found you in a ditch, you wouldn't have to worry about cops doing their job. But now, they can just about openly slaughter you in the streets and get away with it. I know most on here don't live in urban areas, but if you do, or go there, be extra vigilant, the criminals are brazen emboldened and get away with just about anything. And they WILL target you if you're white or even a lighter complexion mullato or latino or even Asian, yes, they target them all the time. the savages rule the day, the Jєω laughs and rubs his greasy little rat paws, and the country is sliding into racial cινιℓ ωαr. And I believe the OJ trial, really got it going good.


They systematic execution of two white people, in view of the whole world and he walked.


And trust me , it wasn't just because he had "money".

Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: alaric on April 13, 2024, 03:09:02 PM
Here's a summary of the evidence, but I've seen pictures of some of the items discussed, etc.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/oj-simpson-book-jason-simpson-william-dear_n_1397583

Some evidence isn't cited here.  Goldman held a black belt in some martial art and his hands black and blue, where he clearly put up a fight, and OJ was stripped naked and examined, and found not to have a scratch on him.  That wasn't cited in the article, but the evidence against OJ's son Jason is very solid.  There were fingerprints found at the scene that didn't match either OJ or the victims.  Jason later let payments lapse on a storage locker, and the PI purchased its contents at auction.  In it was found a knife (with his initial on it) that forensic pathologists concluded was 100% consistent with the weapon that caused the wounds.  Jason had just gotten in trouble for attacking someone with a knife, and wrote in his journal about how he was losing control to rage and would kill someone with a knife.  PI found pictures of him wearing the hat that was found at the crime scene.  He falsified time cards to give him an alibi.  Etc. etc.  There's a ton of evidence that Jason Simpson did it and OJ knew about it, and decided to take the fall for him (though he got acquitted).
Lad, you're dreaming. He was a grade a scuмbag, a real pos, womanizer, adulterer, black angry man. He nearly decapitated that woman and killed the other guy instantly as well. OJ was living the life in LA, a life filled coke and whores and good times, fame, accolades, and an endless supply of blonde white woman at his beckon call to satisfy him sɛҳuąƖly, and trust me they did, they'd wait in line to do it. with their white boyfriends and husbands rooting them on.

He had everything and it was still not enough, had to just kill them white  people, just because he was pissed, maybe they were fooling around in his house, but, he was obviously no saint either, he could have dropped her and still had millions to party till he dropped and still kept his good name. He's nothing but a low down, filthy, murdering racist dog.

But all of the sudden he becomes Sir Walter Raleigh to cover for his son. Yea OK.::)

Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: alaric on April 13, 2024, 03:13:38 PM
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Hopefully they bury him a white Ford Bronco, dig a whole push him and be done with him for good.

Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: SimpleMan on April 13, 2024, 04:03:23 PM
Hopefully they bury him a white Ford Bronco, dig a whole push him and be done with him for good.
FWIW, he's being cremated, and it sounds as though they'll simply be having a small private service later.

Just as well, it would be a media circus otherwise, no doubt with many protestors.  They have probably already thought of that.

https://nypost.com/2024/04/13/us-news/oj-simpsons-brain-wont-be-donated-for-cte-research/ (https://nypost.com/2024/04/13/us-news/oj-simpsons-brain-wont-be-donated-for-cte-research/)
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: TheRealMcCoy on April 14, 2024, 09:37:55 AM
Anyone who is not familiar with "getting one over" better get up to speed pronto. Because even the Maga blacks will do it if they have a chance.  It's in their DNA.
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: Ladislaus on April 14, 2024, 10:07:26 AM
He did it, they have/had all the evidence, he even admitted it years later. He's surely guilty as the sun will rise on the east tomorrow, don't buy into wild stories about his kid, it's all bs.

No, he didn’t do it.  Actually research the evidence.  He did not admit it either.  He wrote that book “If I did it … “ because he was desperate for money and knew it would sell.  He knew his son did it and was covering for him.  This PI who did the research gave a talk to over 500 law enforcement people and asked for a show of hands if people thought OJ was guilty.  It was unanimous at the beginning.  At the end of his presentation of the evidence, only 3 people out of over 500 raised their hands thinking he did it.  You’re just shooting from the hip and haven’t looked at the evidence.
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: Ladislaus on April 14, 2024, 10:11:04 AM
One interesting detail from this PI that he just mentioned in passing was that during the infamous slow-speed chase, OJ had with him 1) a gun … considering ѕυιcιdє 2) pictures of his kids 3) a rosary.  Why would he have a rosary since he wasn’t Catholic?  Some Black people wear them as “bling” of course, so that could explain it.
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: TheRealMcCoy on April 14, 2024, 03:56:15 PM
One interesting detail from this PI that he just mentioned in passing was that during the infamous slow-speed chase, OJ had with him 1) a gun … considering ѕυιcιdє 2) pictures of his kids 3) a rosary.  Why would he have a rosary since he wasn’t Catholic?  Some Black people wear them as “bling” of course, so that could explain it.
Nicole's mother was Catholic and perhaps gave it to him to hang on his rear view mirror.
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: CatholicInAmerica on April 15, 2024, 01:42:17 PM
I'm 99% convinced OJ didn't do it, but rather his son did, and he took the fall to protect him.  There's very solid evidence to back that up.
I saw the same docu-series. Incredibly interesting, but it’s pretty tough to pitch this idea as credible when OJ had a history of domestic abuse against Nicole. 
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: Minnesota on April 15, 2024, 04:37:28 PM
And some of it is probably CTE. Football and contact sport-related head trauma that doesn't show up until after death.

They've looked at many dead NFL players, especially ones like OJ and Aaron Hernandez whose only way out of poverty was football, and seen some incredibly damaged, aged brains.
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: Ladislaus on April 15, 2024, 08:10:40 PM
I saw the same docu-series. Incredibly interesting, but it’s pretty tough to pitch this idea as credible when OJ had a history of domestic abuse against Nicole.

I think that OJ's history of "violence" was exaggerated, and yet his son Jason got into trouble for pulling a knife on his former employer, wrote in his journal that he wanted to kill someone with his knife, and the knife was found in his storage locker that forensic pathologists said could very well have inflicted the wounds.  There's a ton of other evidence how OJ couldn't have done it, i.e. too little blood outside the crime scene itself, not enough place/time for him to change/clean up without having left a lot more.  Also, despite the fact they were separated, OJ was on very friendly terms with Nicole.  One could go on for hours about stuff that just doesn't fit ... besides the glove LOL.
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: Mark 79 on April 16, 2024, 09:25:30 AM
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Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: Ladislaus on April 16, 2024, 09:43:04 AM
Well, if, as is likely, OJ went to Hell, it's a great and terrible tragedy.  Yet, we shouldn't presume anyone consign to Hell based on the enormity of their past sins (even assuming he committed the murders, which I don't think was the case), since even the greatest sins are easily wiped away by Our Lord's Passion.  Biggest issue for OJ is that he died outside the Church, and he did appear to persist in serial adultery throughout his life.  I pray that somehow God could have given him (in the past) the graces necessary to have been saved.  Each one of us might also have an "I did it" sign in front of us when we're judged.
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: Mark 79 on April 16, 2024, 09:51:26 AM
My meme post was not based on any presumption, only humor.
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: Yeti on April 16, 2024, 02:04:58 PM
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This is hilarious! I have to say, you have a kind of ... disturbing ... sense of humor. :laugh1:
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: Ladislaus on April 16, 2024, 04:16:59 PM
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This is hilarious! I have to say, you have a kind of ... disturbing ... sense of humor. :laugh1:

I must say that I didn't quite get the Soros/Simpson one.  Is the idea that Death randomly plucked Simpson when he was fishing for Soros?
Title: Re: OJ Simpson died
Post by: Mark 79 on April 16, 2024, 11:06:32 PM
I must say that I didn't quite get the Soros/Simpson one.  Is the idea that Death randomly plucked Simpson when he was fishing for Soros?
I didn't create the meme, but I think the idea is just, "We want Soros dead and out of our lives."