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Occult Gardening? more common than you might think.
« on: January 08, 2018, 11:41:48 PM »
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  • I have been learning about organic gardening, and from some successful market gardeners, I have heard the word biodynamic from time to time.  I have also heard the name rudolf steiner.  Now I know what it all means.  And, I am not pleased.  They call it biodynamic gardening, and it was invented by occultist rudolf steiner in the 1920s.  And, farmers may practice/incorporate it to varying degrees.  But, in full blooded form, it is none other than the occult - "pseudoscience because of its over reliance upon esoteric knowledge and mystical beliefs".  Here is a quick video showing a couple of its rituals which shouldn't difficult to spot(witch cauldron vortex ritual for an hour, cow poop stuffed in cow horns buried and resurrected).  And, there is much much more.  "Demeter" the greek god of agriculture is the governmental body that sets their standards.  I don't think the video below talks about how they have to plant all of their variety of plants based off of the movements of the moon and compost ingredients in consort with other planets in order to facilitate "lifeforce".  



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodynamic_agriculture

    Biodynamic agriculture is a form of alternative agriculture very similar to organic farming, but it includes various esoteric concepts drawn from the ideas of Rudolf Steiner (1861–1925).[1][2] Initially developed in 1924, it was the first of the organic agriculture movements.[3] It treats soil fertility, plant growth, and livestock care as ecologically interrelated tasks,[4][5][6] emphasizing spiritual and mystical perspectives.
    "A secure mind is like a continual feast" - Proverbs xv: 15


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    Re: Occult Gardening? more common than you might think.
    « Reply #1 on: January 08, 2018, 11:48:56 PM »
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  • Here is one example.  About a decade ago I was involved in playing many sports at a high level.  And, I would get quite sore as you could imagine.  So, I went to the vitamin store looking for a multivitamin to take.  And, the nutritionist recommended I take, you guessed it, "lifeforce" vitamin. I sure hope it wasn't sow ritual cow poop derivative.  But, with these types, it probably was.  I wasn't on cloud nine or anything, but yeah.  I thank God I have learned what true medicine is.  True medicine is real plant food like vegetables.  True medicine is not "lifeforce".  I really didn't notice the difference from the pills, and did not continue taking them.  They were expensive too.
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    Re: Occult Gardening? more common than you might think.
    « Reply #2 on: January 08, 2018, 11:53:29 PM »
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  • My next question would be, should we support farmers who are involved in this?  I would say no.  If they are doing these particular rituals with their compost, I would say no.  You might want to ask your local organic farmer farmers market seller if they do any of this.  Chances are they advertise it in some way with amulets and other occult imagery, that you can tell.  But, you cannot tell if you do not know it is going on.  So, this is a wake up call.  Don't support the satanic gardeners.  Just like you would reject the artificially injected and dyed vegetables found in india and china, you ought to reject the full blooded occult organic vegetables.  
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    « Reply #3 on: January 08, 2018, 11:54:24 PM »
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  • correction
    "A secure mind is like a continual feast" - Proverbs xv: 15

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    « Reply #4 on: January 09, 2018, 12:21:02 AM »
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  • Here is another ranch in hollywood, with UCLA using their compost in their community and medicinal gardens.  Isn't ucla known for being the top dog in medicine science/research?   I think they probably sell their produce for a lot of money.  I didn't see any cows in this picture, but I think you have to have them and do the cow poop cow horn ritural for the compost to be "kosher" or "demeter".  

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    Re: Occult Gardening? more common than you might think.
    « Reply #5 on: January 09, 2018, 04:00:45 AM »
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  • Interesting thread. I've never been able to get a handle on biodynamics. Now I know a little more. I knew Rudolf Steiner through his schools.

    THough he was definitely an occultist I wonder if there is not some scientific basis to it. IF it was just a matter of burying bones (source of calcium) and manure togethey ir might be different but the very thought of that sophisticated lady poking manure into a horn....

    STill if the food is top quality and affordable I'll take it.

    I see nothing wrong with planting according to the phases of the moon. It's all part of God's creation.
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    Re: Occult Gardening? more common than you might think.
    « Reply #6 on: January 09, 2018, 08:50:18 AM »
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    « Reply #7 on: January 09, 2018, 12:38:47 PM »
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  • Germans use not only animal manure and human as well.  When the winds blow and rain is to come that manure is hot/steaming and put on the fields.  I had to learn that  when the winds blew to close my windows.


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    Re: Occult Gardening? more common than you might think.
    « Reply #8 on: January 09, 2018, 01:30:28 PM »
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  • songbird - there is nothing wrong with humanure.  If I could, I would have a humanure compost.  
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    « Reply #9 on: January 09, 2018, 02:22:33 PM »
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  • Nadir - you can count on the produce being through the roof.  And, practices like this do influence market price, because it deceives unsuspecting types to varying degrees with overhead and labor costs that are translated to the consumer.  It is these people who surround society from all sides with error.  Whether it is getting you to eat basically chemical artificial food on one end of the spectrum(conventional) or offer a grain of incense believing artificial teachings in order to eat healthy natural food on the other.  The only thing this system has going for it is its emphasis on plant and animal involvement/diversity polyculture and perhaps cold(er) on site compost(which likely has a benefit when you are talking about microbiology).  These special ingredients that harmonize lifeforce with venus and mars and jupiter add nothing to a compost pile or to the health of a field.  And, planting every conceivable vegetable differently with varying phases of the moon is definitely doubtful.  It is just contemporary eve offering man another poison apple.  
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    « Reply #10 on: January 09, 2018, 02:42:58 PM »
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  • Similar to how we have to avoid sprouted foods, right PG? :laugh1:

    https://www.cathinfo.com/health-and-nutrition/did-christ-condemn'essene-bread'-and-'spouted'-food/
    Thanks for that, Dolores. A trip to the past. Oh how I miss Claudel! And he has still 2 spare posts. Must be saving them for an emergency. 
    Notice ggreg has the last say! 
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    Re: Occult Gardening? more common than you might think.
    « Reply #11 on: January 09, 2018, 02:54:08 PM »
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  • Nadir - you can count on the produce being through the roof.  And, practices like this do influence market price, because it deceives unsuspecting types to varying degrees with overhead and labor costs that are translated to the consumer.  It is these people who surround society from all sides with error.  Whether it is getting you to eat basically chemical artificial food on one end of the spectrum(conventional) or offer a grain of incense believing artificial teachings in order to eat healthy natural food on the other.  The only thing this system has going for it is its emphasis on plant and animal involvement/diversity polyculture and perhaps cold(er) on site compost(which likely has a benefit when you are talking about microbiology).  These special ingredients that harmonize lifeforce with venus and mars and jupiter add nothing to a compost pile or to the health of a field. 
    The best food is my own home-grown but I'm flat out getting the watering done. I will not pay a small fortune for food so be at peace on that issue, PG. 
     
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    And, planting every conceivable vegetable differently with varying phases of the moon is definitely doubtful.  

    Oh! Just doubtful, so worthy of further experimentation

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    It is just contemporary eve offering man another poison apple.  
    Oh! so it's the woman's fault?

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    Re: Occult Gardening? more common than you might think.
    « Reply #12 on: January 09, 2018, 02:54:53 PM »
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  • A perfect example of the error of biodynamics is in its very name.  Biology is the study of life and living organisms, and dynamic implies that the nature of life and living organisms is not fixed.  Which, is not true.  Meaning, that living organisms or nature, do not have exactly that, a "nature".  It implies a contradiction, that nature is something that instead does itself nurture.  But, that(nurture we will say) from what I understand is a characteristic relegated to the "angels".  And, catholics profess belief in angels.  So, in its very name and definition itself, it is implying the opposite of what catholics believe as true.  Nature is fixed.  A proper name for traditional true gardening might be bio"stati(c)"stics.  Because, biology in this sense is static.  Nature is static.  Nature is nature.  It does not change.  It is in natures nature not to change.  It is in the nature of an angel to be able to change.  That is why angels can be fallen.  And, man is unique and is placed in between that spectrum with a nature and a spirit.  We have a nature, but we can also nurture.  Biodynamics is the opposite of what is true revealed in its name itself.  It is utilizing nominative determinism.  Its name determines its outcome and vice versa. 
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    « Reply #13 on: January 09, 2018, 02:58:17 PM »
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  • Of course it goes without saying, a blessing on your food: GRACE BEFORE and AFTER MEALS.
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    « Reply #14 on: January 09, 2018, 03:07:50 PM »
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  • Nadir - It goes with saying.  "Grace builds on Nature".  God bless +Williamson.
    "A secure mind is like a continual feast" - Proverbs xv: 15