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Offline Student of Qi

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Re: Obsessed With Ethnicity?
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2017, 11:11:31 AM »
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  • I  imagine we can all agree that the Mexicans, Jews & Blacks are the worst when it comes to being obsessed with their ethnicity and that the Irish & Italians aren't far behind.

    The question is who is the worst of all & MO is that the Mexicanas. This is not a cheap shot at true Latins & Hispanics. :ready-to-eat:
    I Have to ask: What do you mean by "Mexicans"? Because there are various peoples in that country, all of whom have that label attached. The people in the far South Mexico are not ethnically the same people in and around Mexico City, where people are more "white". And like-wise, the people Tlaxcala are not the same people as in Chihuahua (There are even settlements of Germans here you vould call "Mexican", and Chinese too!), the people in Yucatan are definitely not the same as those in Baja. As a matter of fact, you will even find that different regiones may even have a sort of different or even unique language and culture (And food too!). Therefore, I must ask where these Mexicans you speak of come from. Even amongst my own people/family, the old Tejano people who were called "Mexican" do not look like the immigrants coming over who call themselves "Mexican". 
    You could, to a certain degree, label ME a "Mexican" (though our blood is more Spanish), but you would never guess I'm Hispanic if you saw my face,  or compared me to other  "Mexicans". I would probably have to point out individual features to prove being Mestizo.
    Also, what do you consider "True Hispanics and Latins"? This phrase is bewildering.
    Many people say "For the Honor and Glory of God!" but, what they should say is "For the Love, Glory and Honor of God". - Fr. Paul of Moll

    Offline cassini

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    Re: Obsessed With Ethnicity?
    « Reply #16 on: June 02, 2017, 11:54:18 AM »
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  • The Irish are not known for their food. Guinness I concur.
    Chitlins and Colt 45 are poor American black mans food. How about Bahamian Conch chowder and a Kalik or Jamaican jerked chicken and a Red Stripe? They're a lot better in flavor than corned beef and cabbage

    What do you mean 'the Irish are not known for their food!' We are famous for our potatoes, boiled, mashed, baked, roasted, saute, chips, duchesse, fried, potato soup, potato salad, hassleback, crisps, hash browns, latkes, potato skins, tater tots, gnocchi, potato bravas,  I could go on and on.
    Why we even had a potato famine that caused thousands of us to go to America looking for more.


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    Re: Obsessed With Ethnicity?
    « Reply #17 on: June 02, 2017, 12:24:32 PM »
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  • Ethnicity?

    Heaven is where all the cops are English,  all the chefs are French,  all the workers are German, all the lovers are Italian, and all the administrators are Swiss.

    Hell is where all the cops are German, all the chefs are English, all the workers are French, all the lovers are Swiss and all the administrators are Italian.

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    Re: Obsessed With Ethnicity?
    « Reply #18 on: June 02, 2017, 01:09:43 PM »
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  • I think Mexicans are more obsessed with lowrider cars and really bad mural art.   :P

     

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    Re: Obsessed With Ethnicity?
    « Reply #19 on: June 02, 2017, 03:04:40 PM »
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  • I thought that Jesus died to redeem ALL people.

    Christ the King reigns over all nations and peoples.
    Congaudeant Catholici


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    Re: Obsessed With Ethnicity?
    « Reply #20 on: June 02, 2017, 05:52:20 PM »
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  • I once read that Noah cursed his sons, and that they separated into three general tribes, and that after the fall of Babel, the angels guided each different tribe of men to different corners of the Earth.  I could be wrong, though.  Probably some sort of gnostic crap from the Dead Sea Scrolls or something like that.  You know, something you'd hear about from Art Bell.  
    No, Noe did not curse his sons. He cursed his grandson, the son of his youngest son.
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    It's in Genesis 9:
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    [19] These three are the sons of Noe: and from these was all mankind spread over the whole earth. [20] And Noe, a husbandman, began to till the ground, and planted a vineyard. [21] And drinking of the wine was made drunk, and was uncovered in his tent. [22] Which when Cham the father of Chanaan had seen, to wit, that his father's nakedness was uncovered, he told it to his two brethren without. [23] But Sem and Japheth put a cloak upon their shoulders, and going backward, covered the nakedness of their father: and their faces were turned away, and they saw not their father's nakedness. [24] And Noe awaking from the wine, when he had learned what his younger son had done to him, [25] He said: Cursed be Chanaan, a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

    [25] "Cursed be Chanaan": The curses, as well as the blessings, of the patriarchs, were prophetical: And this in particular is here recorded by Moses, for the children of Israel, who were to possess the land of Chanaan. But why should Chanaan be cursed for his father's faults? The Hebrews answer, that he being then a boy, was the first that saw his grandfather's nakedness, and told his father Cham of it; and joined with him in laughing at it: which drew upon him, rather than upon the rest of the children of Cham, this prophetical curse.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    Re: Obsessed With Ethnicity?
    « Reply #21 on: June 03, 2017, 12:38:50 AM »
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  • From Pope Pius XI;

    8. Whoever exalts race, or the people, or the State, or a particular form of State, or the depositories of power, or any other fundamental value of the human community - however necessary and honorable be their function in worldly things - whoever raises these notions above their standard value and divinizes them to an idolatrous level, distorts and perverts an order of the world planned and created by God; he is far from the true faith in God and from the concept of life which that faith upholds.

    http://w2.vatican.va/content/pius-xi/en/encyclicals/docuмents/hf_p-xi_enc_14031937_mit-brennender-sorge.html

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    Re: Obsessed With Ethnicity?
    « Reply #22 on: June 03, 2017, 12:55:49 AM »
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  •  ::)  So much anklebiting.  Anyone need a napkin to go with your meal?
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    Re: Obsessed With Ethnicity?
    « Reply #23 on: June 03, 2017, 01:30:46 AM »
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  • From Pope Pius XI;

    8. Whoever exalts race, or the people, or the State, or a particular form of State, or the depositories of power, or any other fundamental value of the human community - however necessary and honorable be their function in worldly things - whoever raises these notions above their standard value and divinizes them to an idolatrous level, distorts and perverts an order of the world planned and created by God; he is far from the true faith in God and from the concept of life which that faith upholds.

    http://w2.vatican.va/content/pius-xi/en/encyclicals/docuмents/hf_p-xi_enc_14031937_mit-brennender-sorge.html
    Mit Brennender Sorge was a response to the cancer upon the Earth that was Adolf Hitler (I actually think he was one of the most brilliant people to ever live; but his views were disgusting) and nαzι Germany. Nothing to do with this thread.

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    Re: Obsessed With Ethnicity?
    « Reply #24 on: June 03, 2017, 02:14:02 AM »
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  • Mit Brennender Sorge was a response to the cancer upon the Earth that was Adolf Hitler (I actually think he was one of the most brilliant people to ever live; but his views were disgusting) and nαzι Germany. Nothing to do with this thread.
    I disagree. The principles which Pope Pius XI wrote apply to everyone, not just a targeted few.  

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    Re: Obsessed With Ethnicity?
    « Reply #25 on: June 03, 2017, 02:19:42 AM »
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  • Ethnicity?

    Heaven is where all the cops are English,  all the chefs are French,  all the workers mechanics are German, all the lovers are Italian, and all the administrators are Swiss.

    Hell is where all the cops are German, all the chefs are English, all the workers mechanics are French, all the lovers are Swiss and all the administrators are Italian.
    There, that is the way it goes. 


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    Re: Obsessed With Ethnicity?
    « Reply #26 on: June 03, 2017, 02:57:50 AM »
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  • My personal experience is that the Hondurans are the most racist people on E.... :incense:
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    Re: Obsessed With Ethnicity?
    « Reply #27 on: June 03, 2017, 08:25:32 AM »
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  • I disagree. The principles which Pope Pius XI wrote apply to everyone, not just a targeted few.  
    So Poche do you believe that someone who realistically recognizes the hazards of riding through Black Bottom on Saturday night and goes out of his way to avoid it is doing wrong?


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    Irish/Re: Obsessed With Ethnicity?
    « Reply #29 on: June 03, 2017, 10:30:41 PM »
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  • I think we should do a poll to see whether more people would prefer corned beef & cabbage and a Guinness, [....]

    Lots of butter for the cabbage, please.  Corned beef is not high on lists of preferred cuts or preparations of beef; it's cooked with the customary boiled/simmered method precisely because its inferior composition practically requires it.  That written, it makes for great sandwiches.

    The Irish are not known for their food.

    Nor are their oppressive past & present rulers: the British.  Maybe if British law and custom had allowed the Irish to own land in their own country, or to rise above farm laborers for capricious landlords, a native market for food that rose above mere subsistence might've evolved into a respectable--altho' not necessarily enviable--culinary tradition.

    Why we even had a potato famine that caused thousands of us to go to America looking for more.

    During the Great Famine, while starvation was widespread, Ireland was forced to be a net exporter of food, with the full knowledge & approval of Queen Victoria.

    Guinness I concur.

    Hah!  The Guinness is the only native Irish item in OHCA's list, and thumbs up to that brew.  At least OHCA omitted the "green beer" abomination.  Corned beef & cabbage was an invention of Irish immigrants after arrival in the U.S.A. (or so I've read in a few articles by native Irishwomen).