I recently encountered Ladislaus promoting Nostradamus on an Anne "Jєωess" Barnhardt thread:

https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/anne-barnhardt-highly-recommends-new-book-on-pope-benedict/

He was bothered that I bring Nostradamus possibly being a crypto-Jєω into the conversation.

Ladislaus objects to my sourcing a Jєωιѕн website for claiming Nostradamus as one of the tribe. Who can trust Jєωs, right?

Sure, decent objection.

Here's another Jєωιѕн source, The Universal Jєωιѕн Encyclopedia (1942):




In my experience it's rare, at best, for so many Jєωs to claim someone as their own who isn't.

Jєωs and gentiles are like oil and water. If you're truly unlike Jєωs then they will spit you out and will not want to claim you as one of their own.

Lots of Jєωs like to claim Lincoln as one of their own. Let them have him. Lincoln strikes me as very Jєωy, at the very least.

Here's an oft-quoted paragraph from the Jesuit Augustin Barruel (from Jones' Jєωιѕн Revolutionary Spirit and many other sources):









There's much more on Nostradamus at Jєωgle books, if you care to browse. Mostly from Jєωιѕн sources.

Again, do Jєωs but rarely, if ever, want to claim a gentile as their own who isn't a threat to them?

https://www.google.com/search?biw=1280&bih=535&tbm=bks&ei=LXtAYJPNBPjP0PEPhN-xqAc&q=nostradamus+Jєωιѕн

I recently encountered Ladislaus promoting Nostradamus on an Anne "Jєωess" Barnhardt thread:

https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/anne-barnhardt-highly-recommends-new-book-on-pope-benedict/

He was bothered that I bring Nostradamus possibly being a crypto-Jєω into the conversation.

Ladislaus objects to my sourcing a Jєωιѕн website for claiming Nostradamus ...

If by quoting Nostradamus and saying “take it for what it’s worth,” I was “promoting” him ...

For the very same reason a Nostradamus might lie about his conversion, so a Jєωιѕн source might lie about his non-conversion.  So flip a coin.

If Nostradamus was a fake convert, then he was a good actor.

Then, regardless of who he was, the details in the prophecies he got right are too many to be written off as coincidence.  If he was working in the dark arts, there’s still a possibility that he was accurate because the devil can piece together the future to a point.

Nostradamus was very anti-Catholic and seems to predict the downfall of the Church which we know can never happen.

Avoid Nostradamus and his prophesies.

No, he really wasn't anti-Catholic.  I've read a few of his letters and they APPEAR to be rather devout.

As for "seeming" to predict the "downfall" of the Church, nobody knows what most of his stuff means, and there are lots of Catholic prophecies about a downfall, with great apostasies and anti-popes.  It depends on what one means by a "downfall".

Yves DuPont quoted Nostradamus a few times.  He said Nostradamus was devout.

Yes, that's probably where I read the most Nostradamus at the beginning, in Yves DuPont's work.  I later read a couple of Nostradamus' letters, and I got the impression of a very devout Catholic.  Now, of course, he could have been faking it, but I think the jury's out.  Of course we need to remain skeptical, but there's no way that he got some of the stuff about Napoleon, Hitler, and others right by chance.

https://www.businessinsider.com/nostradamus-true-predictions-2014-5

Nostradamus was a marrano-- W Walsh( Bio Philip II) says he was a 'quack"...

My gut reaction is to steer clear of his prophecies.  But then again, I'm not someone who puts much emphasis on prophecies, apparitions, bleeding/crying statues, etc in general.

On the other hand, before finding Catholicism (well, at least the Novus Ordo brand), I used to read up on his prophecies, consult tarot readers/psychics, follow horoscopes, etc.  When I hear the name "Nostradamus", I immєdιαtely put him in this category and was quite honestly surprised to see him mentioned here.  

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I've heard it said that one of the traits of a true Catholic mystic is that they don't exhibit any desire for any Catholics to read about their visions. Or at least this is a characteristic found in some mystics, such as St. John of the Cross.
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Nostradamus strikes me as your garden-variety self-promoting Jєω shyster.

Some more info, from this forum:
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https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/the-churches-stance-on-nostradamus/
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Here's an answer by Warren H. Carroll, Ph.D. on March 1, 1999:

Nostradamus was a French astrologer of Jєωιѕн origin, who however claimed to be a Catholic. He wrote a book of alleged prophecies in 1555. This book was condemned by the Vatican, but not until after his death. The Church has always condemned astrology. To my knowledge he was not excommunicated, probably due to resistance by the young kings of France in his time and their mother, Catherine de Medici, who were much taken with him. - Dr. Carroll

And in another answer on the EWTN site, writer Karl Keating observes (April 25, 1998):

"Nostradamus isn't even mentioned in the massive Catholic Encyclopedia, which suggests the Church hasn't paid much attention to him and certainly hasn't taken his prophecies seriously."

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https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/the-churches-stance-on-nostradamus/
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From Matthew:
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Well, it depends on what "them" is.

Nostradamus as interpreted by John Doe? By John Q. Public? By the Weekly World News?

Straight-up Nostradamus is so cryptic it could be predicting just about anything. So we have hundreds of "interpreters" who interpret Nostradamus' quatrains to predict all sorts of things, most of which have not come to pass.

I'd say it's more of a waste of time than anything else. I've encountered MUCH better (Catholic) prophecies that are worth our attention and belief.

After all, if nonbelievers are given preternatural abilities (Edgar Cayce?), including prophecy, there is a good chance they're getting it from the devil.

The devil doesn't know the future. He's just a damn good guesser, because he is so intelligent and sees the thousands of causes behind everything. He *understands* how the butterfly flapping its wings in Tokyo creates a hurricane in the Carribean, and where that hurricane will go. He's a good weatherman.

We can guess things too, but our minds are so puny they can't guess anything "impressive" unless we're trying to impress a 2-year-old. Flip a light switch, and the lights go off! Haha, I knew that would happen, even though the little kid is giggling because it was unexpected.

But God alone knows the future -- what will happen based on man's free will. And I doubt He shares that knowledge with random unbelievers...

I recently encountered Ladislaus promoting Nostradamus on an Anne "Jєωess" Barnhardt thread:

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Just as an aside, Ann Barnhardt is not a Jєω. I refer you to Question 6 on that page.