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Traditional Catholic Faith => Fighting Errors in the Modern World => Topic started by: rum on March 04, 2021, 12:31:02 AM
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I recently encountered Ladislaus promoting Nostradamus on an Anne "Jewess" Barnhardt thread:
https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/anne-barnhardt-highly-recommends-new-book-on-pope-benedict/
He was bothered that I bring Nostradamus possibly being a crypto-jew into the conversation.
Ladislaus objects to my sourcing a Jєωιѕн website for claiming Nostradamus as one of the tribe. Who can trust jews, right?
Sure, decent objection.
Here's another Jєωιѕн source, The Universal Jєωιѕн Encyclopedia (1942):
(https://i.imgur.com/XcTbgXa.jpg)
In my experience it's rare, at best, for so many jews to claim someone as their own who isn't.
Jews and gentiles are like oil and water. If you're truly unlike jews then they will spit you out and will not want to claim you as one of their own.
Lots of jews like to claim Lincoln as one of their own. Let them have him. Lincoln strikes me as very jewy, at the very least.
Here's an oft-quoted paragraph from the Jesuit Augustin Barruel (from Jones' Jєωιѕн Revolutionary Spirit and many other sources):
(https://i.imgur.com/13cNWqg.jpg)
There's much more on Nostradamus at Jewgle books, if you care to browse. Mostly from Jєωιѕн sources.
Again, do jews but rarely, if ever, want to claim a gentile as their own who isn't a threat to them?
https://www.google.com/search?biw=1280&bih=535&tbm=bks&ei=LXtAYJPNBPjP0PEPhN-xqAc&q=nostradamus+Jєωιѕн
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I found this piece on EWTN, by Fr. Raniero Cantalamessa, wherein he delegitimizes Nostradamus by way of comparison to the true mystic St. John of the Cross:
https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/3rd-advent-sermon-2010-3225
Unfamiliar with Fr. Cantalamessa I jewgle him and found him, unsurprisingly as he's a newchurch disciple, promoting the jews-as-victims angle:
https://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/03/world/europe/03church.html
(https://i.imgur.com/EfWFgrM.jpg)
It is interesting, however, that a newchurch disciple, would know to delegitimize Nostradamus by way of comparison to a true mystic such as St. John of the Cross.
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I recently encountered Ladislaus promoting Nostradamus on an Anne "Jewess" Barnhardt thread:
https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/anne-barnhardt-highly-recommends-new-book-on-pope-benedict/
He was bothered that I bring Nostradamus possibly being a crypto-jew into the conversation.
Ladislaus objects to my sourcing a Jєωιѕн website for claiming Nostradamus ...
If by quoting Nostradamus and saying “take it for what it’s worth,” I was “promoting” him ...
For the very same reason a Nostradamus might lie about his conversion, so a Jєωιѕн source might lie about his non-conversion. So flip a coin.
If Nostradamus was a fake convert, then he was a good actor.
Then, regardless of who he was, the details in the prophecies he got right are too many to be written off as coincidence. If he was working in the dark arts, there’s still a possibility that he was accurate because the devil can piece together the future to a point.
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Nostradamus was very anti-Catholic and seems to predict the downfall of the Church which we know can never happen.
Avoid Nostradamus and his prophesies.
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Nostradamus was very anti-Catholic and seems to predict the downfall of the Church which we know can never happen.
Avoid Nostradamus and his prophesies.
No, he really wasn't anti-Catholic. I've read a few of his letters and they APPEAR to be rather devout.
As for "seeming" to predict the "downfall" of the Church, nobody knows what most of his stuff means, and there are lots of Catholic prophecies about a downfall, with great apostasies and anti-popes. It depends on what one means by a "downfall".
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Yves DuPont quoted Nostradamus a few times. He said Nostradamus was devout.
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Yves DuPont quoted Nostradamus a few times. He said Nostradamus was devout.
Yes, that's probably where I read the most Nostradamus at the beginning, in Yves DuPont's work. I later read a couple of Nostradamus' letters, and I got the impression of a very devout Catholic. Now, of course, he could have been faking it, but I think the jury's out. Of course we need to remain skeptical, but there's no way that he got some of the stuff about Napoleon, Hitler, and others right by chance.
https://www.businessinsider.com/nostradamus-true-predictions-2014-5
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My gut reaction is to steer clear of his prophecies. But then again, I'm not someone who puts much emphasis on prophecies, apparitions, bleeding/crying statues, etc in general.
On the other hand, before finding Catholicism (well, at least the Novus Ordo brand), I used to read up on his prophecies, consult tarot readers/psychics, follow horoscopes, etc. When I hear the name "Nostradamus", I immєdιαtely put him in this category and was quite honestly surprised to see him mentioned here.
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Nostradamus was a marrano-- W Walsh( Bio Philip II) says he was a 'quack"... :popcorn:
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Thanks for the tip. From William Thomas Walsh's Philip II:
(https://i.imgur.com/LMoA6Sp.jpg)
The jew Alexander Dugin thinks Nostradamus prophesied the reign of Putin.
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My gut reaction is to steer clear of his prophecies. But then again, I'm not someone who puts much emphasis on prophecies, apparitions, bleeding/crying statues, etc in general.
On the other hand, before finding Catholicism (well, at least the Novus Ordo brand), I used to read up on his prophecies, consult tarot readers/psychics, follow horoscopes, etc. When I hear the name "Nostradamus", I immєdιαtely put him in this category and was quite honestly surprised to see him mentioned here.
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I've heard it said that one of the traits of a true Catholic mystic is that they don't exhibit any desire for any Catholics to read about their visions. Or at least this is a characteristic found in some mystics, such as St. John of the Cross.
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Nostradamus strikes me as your garden-variety self-promoting jew shyster.
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If by quoting Nostradamus and saying “take it for what it’s worth,” I was “promoting” him ...
For the very same reason a Nostradamus might lie about his conversion, so a Jєωιѕн source might lie about his non-conversion. So flip a coin.
If Nostradamus was a fake convert, then he was a good actor.
Then, regardless of who he was, the details in the prophecies he got right are too many to be written off as coincidence. If he was working in the dark arts, there’s still a possibility that he was accurate because the devil can piece together the future to a point.
Detail for us the prophecies he got right.
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Some more info, from this forum:
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https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/the-churches-stance-on-nostradamus/
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Here's an answer by Warren H. Carroll, Ph.D. on March 1, 1999:
Nostradamus was a French astrologer of Jєωιѕн origin, who however claimed to be a Catholic. He wrote a book of alleged prophecies in 1555. This book was condemned by the Vatican, but not until after his death. The Church has always condemned astrology. To my knowledge he was not excommunicated, probably due to resistance by the young kings of France in his time and their mother, Catherine de Medici, who were much taken with him. - Dr. Carroll
And in another answer on the EWTN site, writer Karl Keating observes (April 25, 1998):
"Nostradamus isn't even mentioned in the massive Catholic Encyclopedia, which suggests the Church hasn't paid much attention to him and certainly hasn't taken his prophecies seriously."
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https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/the-churches-stance-on-nostradamus/
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From Matthew:
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Well, it depends on what "them" is.
Nostradamus as interpreted by John Doe? By John Q. Public? By the Weekly World News?
Straight-up Nostradamus is so cryptic it could be predicting just about anything. So we have hundreds of "interpreters" who interpret Nostradamus' quatrains to predict all sorts of things, most of which have not come to pass.
I'd say it's more of a waste of time than anything else. I've encountered MUCH better (Catholic) prophecies that are worth our attention and belief.
After all, if nonbelievers are given preternatural abilities (Edgar Cayce?), including prophecy, there is a good chance they're getting it from the devil.
The devil doesn't know the future. He's just a damn good guesser, because he is so intelligent and sees the thousands of causes behind everything. He *understands* how the butterfly flapping its wings in Tokyo creates a hurricane in the Carribean, and where that hurricane will go. He's a good weatherman.
We can guess things too, but our minds are so puny they can't guess anything "impressive" unless we're trying to impress a 2-year-old. Flip a light switch, and the lights go off! Haha, I knew that would happen, even though the little kid is giggling because it was unexpected.
But God alone knows the future -- what will happen based on man's free will. And I doubt He shares that knowledge with random unbelievers...
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Looks like Rum delivered a fatal machine gun burst and Nostradamus is going down in flames .
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.-2qnFNOaK_EdnkzJWT-kIwHaEr%26pid%3DApi&f=1)
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I recently encountered Ladislaus promoting Nostradamus on an Anne "Jewess" Barnhardt thread:
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Just as an aside, Ann Barnhardt is not a Jew (https://www.barnhardt.biz/faqs/). I refer you to Question 6 on that page.
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Just as an aside, Ann Barnhardt is not a Jew (https://www.barnhardt.biz/faqs/). I refer you to Question 6 on that page.
"I’m the walking definition of an ethnic WASP. But, I appreciate being called a Jew, as that is what people resort to when they come across someone intelligent that they can’t rebut. It really is a backhanded compliment."
She's a gatekeeper and is indistinguishable from someone who would be a crypto-jew. I remember her making a name for herself burning a Koran. Until I see her burning тαℓмυd's I won't consider taking her seriously. No rabbi would invite a genuinely anti-Jєωιѕн Catholic to come give a speech (https://www.barnhardt.biz/the-one-about/boston-speech-on-the-jews-transcript/). You can start a thread if you want to debate her merits.
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"I’m the walking definition of an ethnic WASP. But, I appreciate being called a Jew, as that is what people resort to when they come across someone intelligent that they can’t rebut. It really is a backhanded compliment."
She's a gatekeeper and is indistinguishable from someone who would be a crypto-jew. I remember her making a name for herself burning a Koran. Until I see her burning тαℓмυd's I won't consider taking her seriously. No rabbi would invite a genuinely anti-Jєωιѕн Catholic to come give a speech (https://www.barnhardt.biz/the-one-about/boston-speech-on-the-Jҽωs-transcript/). You can start a thread if you want to debate her merits.
Smoke em Rumster! 🕺
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She's a gatekeeper and is indistinguishable from someone who would be a crypto-jew.
From listening to her probably years ago by now, I remember she made fun of people who believed in Jєωιѕн cօռspιʀαcιҽs and compared them to people who believed in lizard people, she ridiculed EMJ for believing Jҽωs are enemies of God and recommended people listen to Ben Shapiro. However she did say that Jews needed to be Baptized and have to convert and suggested prayers for Trump's Jєωιѕн relatives.
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From listening to her probably years ago by now, I remember she made fun of people who believed in Jєωιѕн cօռspιʀαcιҽs and compared them to people who believed in lizard people, she ridiculed EMJ for believing Jҽωs are enemies of God and recommended people listen to Ben Shapiro. However she did say that Jҽωs needed to be Baptized and have to convert and suggested prayers for Tɾυmρ's Jєωιѕн relatives.
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Yes, I don't agree with some of the things she says either. I certainly don't agree with her fanatical hatred of sedevacantists. But despite all of that, I do like a lot of what she writes, and consider myself a fan. My only point earlier was to say that she is not Jєωιѕн, as she has said.
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The Church never postulated on Nostradomus. It's always secular sources and media that talk about him as worthy of consideration. I never even heard he was reported to be Catholic until I read this thread. From what little I know of him, he speaks in riddles and cryptics that are so abstract and vague, almost any event can be applied to it. True Catholic prophesies are more detailed and exclusive. Avoid him. He falls under the sensationalism catalogue of thinkers.
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The funny thing about Ann Barnhardt being an apologist for Jews is that she unwittingly described the Jews to their very marrow in her thesis "Diabolical Narcissism". I highly recommend everyone watch it.