Author Topic: No-go areas..... (Read 18803 times)

Marcelino · « **Reply #85 on:** May 06, 2012, 01:38:51 AM »

Yeah, it says something like, God established the nations and set their boundaries or something like that. Then there's the Tower of Babel. That seems like a clear divine rejection of "one world" or "multiculturalism" or "race doesn't matter" or whatever. And, the natural order seems to punish it and reward racial homogeneity and, even more important I think cultural homogeneity and culture seems to be a product mostly of religion. So, tampering with it seems as dangerous/perverse as tampering with things like gender and sɛҳuąƖity. It's just wrong. There really does seem to be a right way to do things and a wrong way to do things; it isn't all "relative."

"Life" seems to punish certain behaviors and rewards others. That seems like a pretty clear message from "The Maker" or "Designer."

But on the other hand, you gotta do what you gotta do. You can't shop at the mall, without interacting and cooperating with these modern social engineering projects.

clare · « **Reply #86 on:** May 06, 2012, 03:13:23 AM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

Quote from: Nadir
Alaric said (a while back): God created the different races.

No, Alaric, God created two persons - a man and a woman, named Adam and Eve - in His image and likeness. From these two have descended all the people on earth. There is one race - the human race.

If there is division among their progeny, it is a result of sin. It is not God's doing.

Did God create you?

God created all the people on earth, and their different families, their different nations, and their different races.

God created society and its order.

The idea that God didn't create the races but that they're a result of sin or free action denies Providence.

Yes, God creates races, nations, ethnicities, and sometimes He does it by combining two or more different ones.

Nadir · « **Reply #87 on:** May 06, 2012, 04:29:55 AM »

Telesphorus asks: Did God create you?

Of course He did. But my genetic makeup is passed down though the generations from Adam and Eve, just as the Chinese come from them, the Arabs come from them, etc.

I did not say "God didn't create the races", but that God created the human race, from one solitary couple. They must have carried all the genetic information to supply all the different racial groups that eventually formed one way or another.

Neither did I say, or even imply, that different races are a result of sin. I said divisions (that is disunity) amongst their progeny is a result of sin.
As for example the type of hatred and fear expressed on these pages,

alaric · « **Reply #88 on:** May 06, 2012, 06:54:06 AM »

Quote from: Nadir

Alaric said (a while back): God created the different races.

No, Alaric, God created two persons - a man and a woman, named Adam and Eve - in His image and likeness. From these two have descended all the people on earth. There is one race - the human race.

If there is division among their progeny, it is a result of sin. It is not God's doing.

Explain the Tower of Babel then.

Also, in case you weren't aware, the name "Adam" in Hebrew refers more or less to what we would consider today a white man.

http://www.behindthename.com/name/adam

Meaning & History
This is the Hebrew word for "man". It could be ultimately derived from Hebrew אדם ('adam) meaning "to be red", referring to the ruddy colour of human skin, or from Akkadian adamu meaning "to make". According to Genesis in the Old Testament Adam was created from the earth by God (there is a word play on Hebrew אֲדָמָה ('adamah) "earth"). He and Eve were supposedly the first humans, living happily in the Garden of Eden until Adam ate a forbidden fruit given to him by Eve.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ruddy

rud·dy   [ruhd-ee] Show IPA adjective, rud·di·er, rud·di·est, adverb
adjective
1.
of or having a fresh, healthy red color: a ruddy complexion.

alaric · « **Reply #89 on:** May 06, 2012, 07:07:10 AM »

Quote from: Nadir

Telesphorus asks: Did God create you?

Of course He did. But my genetic makeup is passed down though the generations from Adam and Eve, just as the Chinese come from them, the Arabs come from them, etc.

I did not say "God didn't create the races", but that God created the human race, from one solitary couple. They must have carried all the genetic information to supply all the different racial groups that eventually formed one way or another.

Neither did I say, or even imply, that different races are a result of sin. I said divisions (that is disunity) amongst their progeny is a result of sin.
As for example the type of hatred and fear expressed on these pages,

Why should we have Chinese races? Or Arabs? Or Hindus or Bantus for that matter? After all, we're all one. That was God's original plan it seems. No racial separation, no division of ethnicities, no linguistic distinctions, no cultural barriers, no land divisions , nothing.

Just one big monad of brown primordial soup.

Seems the God who created all this diversity and beauty in nature, wanted his supreme creation to be the most banal and mundane of all.

BTW, by "hatred" and "fear" expressed on these threads, I assume you are referring to those lighter complexion folk who are being victimized by the darker ones for no reason other than being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Or, for the simple fact of the color of their skin, now that's "fear" and prejudiced if there ever was an example.