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Sigismund · « **Reply #55 on:** April 11, 2012, 11:57:50 AM »

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It's amazing that Catholics who have no objection with race mixing....

The Church Herself has no objection to it.

What God has joined together...
Please show Church teaching, doctrine or dogma against racial separation or forced integration or ethnic/racial groups freedom of association within their own subsect.

I'll be waiting.

Please show one in favor of it. I'll be waiting too.

Sigismund · « **Reply #56 on:** April 11, 2012, 12:01:41 PM »

I see my question above has already been asked and answered. I should read the whole thread before posting.

Busillis · « **Reply #57 on:** April 11, 2012, 03:19:03 PM »

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But if marxists are encouraging race mixing it can't be for good reasons,...

Maybe Marxists are encouraging it for bad reasons. But that doesn't make the practice wrong per se. There are bad reasons for encouraging it, but there can also be good reasons for encouraging it. The Church has encouraged it for good reasons in places.

Anyhow, I'm not on about encouraging it. Just allowing it, and not obsessing that we are doomed if the "wrong" kind of people are produced. Children are a blessing, created in God's image. And that is the bottom line.

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But I balk at giving into the multicult propaganda.

I'm not a supporter of multi-culturalism. I don't see race and culture as coterminous. People of different races are capable of embracing Christian culture.

I would be wary of marriages between people of different cultures. And if those people happen to be of different races, it is their culture or religion which is the bone of contention. Not their race.

Race mixing propaganda is a secondary issue. The Jews are your enemies and you would like to see Jєωιѕн power overthrown in the West and Christ to be King. Anything antiwhite in nature will be destroyed when Jєωιѕн power is destroyed. You're taking a middle path on this issue of multiculturalism, assuming those to either side of you are not right in the head. My views on race are compatible with the Church. You remind me a bit of Dorothy Day. She tread that middle path, trying to find a middle ground between Catholicism and Marxism. She just ended up being a tool of the Jews.

LaramieHirsch · « **Reply #58 on:** April 15, 2012, 12:07:41 PM »

I generally try to stay away from talking about groups of people based on their culture or color or whatever. I figure if a guy is an asshole, he's an asshole.

Still. The tribal mentality exists. So whatever. Here's my two cents--and I'm calling out the cowards on this one (no, Cognorati001, I am NOT talking about you, though I mention you in this post).

I agree with a commenter on youtube I read today who said that the most racist people are the white-hating white people.

Next to that, if I must discern collected groups of people, I'd say that black people have quite an easy time categorizing whites as racists. They collectively judge whites with no consequences. Mainstream media and liberal whites would not dare to call blacks racist.

A quote I read today on Cathinfo got me thinking about all this:

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If you want to spew your nonsense, fine. But please do not claim to have an insider perspective on Black people or have any empathy with us -- you just don't.

I'm not interested in having a back-and-forth with you because my experience has been that you are a racist and quite vicious and abusive, but I feel the need to speak out as you're claiming to speak for people who are no longer participating in these forums (Black and minority posters are not posting here for obvious reasons: most of the members here HATE us).

I definitely don't claim to have insider perspective on blacks, or empathize with them. I don't really care. I care about celebrating Black History Month as much as I do celebrating White History Month. Cognorati001, I wonder why men choose to identify with their race. Their people. But oh well, the differences are definitely there.

Going back to the double standard, check this bullshit out. This crap was spouted off by the University of Delaware RA when a new freshman was settling in a dorm (Source: http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/08/12/bad-whitey-101/ ):

A RACIST: A racist is one who is both privileged and socialized on the basis of race by a white supremacist (racist) system. The term applies to all white people (i.e., people of European descent) living in the United States. . . . By this definition, people of color cannot be racists, because as peoples within the U.S. system, they do not have the power to back up their prejudices, hostilities, or acts of discrimination. (This does not deny the existence of such prejudices, hostilities, acts of rage or discrimination.)

REVERSE RACISM: A term created and used by white people to deny their white privilege. Those in denial use the term reverse racism to refer to hostile behavior by people of color toward whites. . . . In the U.S., there is no such thing as ‘reverse racism.’

A NON-RACIST: A non-term. The term was created by whites to deny responsibility for systemic racism, to maintain an aura of innocence in the face of racial oppression, and to shift responsibility for that oppression from whites to people of color (called ‘blaming the victim’).

Isn't that lovely? 50% of blacks will be silent and affirm this kind of garbage.

It's okay for a black to get out on the street and say they need to start killing crackers? For some young black punk to get on the docuмentary Thug Life 3, and start bragging about how he needs to lock and load, kill a cracker, and take his stuff? Or for some homeless black guy to look me in my eyes and tell me that "my people" came and killed off the Indians? Yet if I look a black man in the eye and tell him that "his people" are responsible for the majority of theft, rape, and murder, he'll take offense, and the white liberal next to him will call the cops on me.

It's bullshit.

If I have to say something about whites collectively, I'd say they've given up the struggle of civilizations.

If I have to say something about blacks, it's that they are responsible for a majority of America's crime.

If I have to say something about the Major Media and our government overlords, it is that they are doing their best to race bait, divide, and cause cινιℓ ωαr among the population.

This video is informative. I wish I could embed it. Most people--of all colors--ought to watch it. It is titled: A Conversation About Race

Laramie is done talking about race.

wallflower · « **Reply #59 on:** April 15, 2012, 09:34:29 PM »

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I agree with a commenter on youtube I read today who said that the most racist people are the white-hating white people. !!!

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A RACIST: A racist is one who is both privileged and socialized on the basis of race by a white supremacist (racist) system. The term applies to all white people (i.e., people of European descent) living in the United States. . . . By this definition, people of color cannot be racists, because as peoples within the U.S. system, they do not have the power to back up their prejudices, hostilities, or acts of discrimination. (This does not deny the existence of such prejudices, hostilities, acts of rage or discrimination.)

REVERSE RACISM: A term created and used by white people to deny their white privilege. Those in denial use the term reverse racism to refer to hostile behavior by people of color toward whites. . . . In the U.S., there is no such thing as ‘reverse racism.’

A NON-RACIST: A non-term. The term was created by whites to deny responsibility for systemic racism, to maintain an aura of innocence in the face of racial oppression, and to shift responsibility for that oppression from whites to people of color (called ‘blaming the victim’).

Isn't that lovely? 50% of blacks will be silent and affirm this kind of garbage.

It's okay for a black to get out on the street and say they need to start killing crackers? For some young black punk to get on the docuмentary Thug Life 3, and start bragging about how he needs to lock and load, kill a cracker, and take his stuff? Or for some homeless black guy to look me in my eyes and tell me that "my people" came and killed off the Indians? Yet if I look a black man in the eye and tell him that "his people" are responsible for the majority of theft, rape, and murder, he'll take offense, and the white liberal next to him will call the cops on me.

It's bull####.

So true. And I don't normally talk race either. But I got this very "education" from white liberals, what you wrote in blue.

I grew up in a very different atmosphere than what the average American does. I was very unaware of the American race wars and tension until later. Not from being overly sheltered, just because race simply wasn't an issue in my home or area. Plus we aren't political or newsy type people so it wasn't exactly daily dinner conversation.

Anyway, I've had white liberals spout that exact insanity to me. Blacks CANNOT be racist because they don't have power behind them, they have no way of supressing whites and that's the definition of racist. Accusations of reverse racism are just white people's fear of letting go of power. Having black friends is just an excuse white people use that doesn't make them any less racist, they're just condescending etc...

And THEN, they used my relative innocence of racial matters as a point against me. In other words, the fact that I didn't know how bad it is out there and take everyone at face value is not because I'm not racist, it's because I'm priviledged. So if you're white and aware of the racial tensions, you are racist; but if you are unaware and innocent you are still racist, you're just too "priviledged" to know it. Black people aren't "priviledged" enough to be able to live without knowing about it so as a white it's a slap in the face for me to say I am unaware. It's like rubbing in my "priviledge". So a person can't even have a happy childhood free of all that BS without it being resented. If that's the case you should feel guilty for it. --- In-sane.

These same people are going NUTS over the Trayvon thing btw. I personally have not been following the story and barely look at posts about it, but man, the gnashing of teeth going on over there... Unreal.