Author Topic: No-go areas..... (Read 18761 times)

Telesphorus · « **Reply #105 on:** May 07, 2012, 09:38:11 AM »

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Now, if people are going to keep bringing up Babel to argue for separatism, they should argue against different nationalities mixing.

Is anyone here arguing that nationalities should stop existing, that they should merge together? Your kind of liberals pretends nationality is independent of race and that is why you support the mixture of the various races. (in European countries, among whites and immigrants. at some level you're part leftist)

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They don't do that though (and the number of so-called "Nationalists" I am aware of who are married to foreigners is astounding!). So, really, Babel is neither here nor there.

The idea that all people's should be one vast mixture of people, world society, as a sort of stage in man's rising towards divinity, is Babelism. In fact, they take the tower of Babel as a symbol against God.

One could even claim the EU parliament building is based on it.

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It's tempting to accuse those who bring up Babel and Old Testament laws in the matter of race, of, ahem, Judaising...

That would be ridiculous. There is nothing exclusively Jєωιѕн about the story of the Tower of Babel. Moses wrote the Pentateuch, but the account of Babel applies to everyone, it's before the Old Covenant.

alaric · « **Reply #106 on:** May 08, 2012, 12:12:14 PM »

"Yes, I know, but Babel saw people divided by language. "-Clare

Yes, I know this, maybe everyone spoke the same language at the time, who knows?

But the fact is they were separated, that's the point.Why? Because God seen what eventually would happen if there were no divisions among man and what he was capable of doing, mainly an affront to God's authority.

And once the language barrier was established, man went his separate ways into the corners of the earth where he eventually established various separate and distinct civilizations. And this is where the different cultures and ethnicities have sprung from, each with it's own unique customs and heritage and language.

And most of all race. It only makes sense that if you go back in time, the same people who were able to communicate freely amongst themselves were also able to bond together, thrive and procreate, in another words, to start families, communities and eventually nations. And that's where nationalities come from, nations.

But it all begins with the language and communication.

So if God "confused "the tongues he was in effect separating "races" that eventually sprang from the different languages. That is really the genesis of all ethnicities, cultures and races. Language. It's the glue that holds a people together.

So it was God's will a long time ago to keep the planet full of separate and distinct groups of people. Not some kind one world order and race.

wallflower · « **Reply #107 on:** May 08, 2012, 12:44:09 PM »

It seems that some are forgetting what happened at the Tower of Babel was a punishment not an ideal.

I would be interested in seeing New Testament references about this. As far as I know the New Testament was about unity and God coming to save all men. The strict divisions from the Old Testament were done away with, even in Christ's own behavior, and this was a large part of what angered the Jews.

alaric · « **Reply #108 on:** May 08, 2012, 12:47:23 PM »

"I am not a multiculturalist"-Clare

I beg to differ.

" Race and culture are not coterminous."

As a matter of fact, they usually are. Although this is not an absolute.

The problem is, when you have too much of one and not the other, soon both will become extinct. Show me a civilization that has endured this over the long haul and still exists, guess what, you can't.

Good word though......" coterminous". :rolleyes:

" Catholic culture is for everyone."

And your point is?

"I'm talking about the banner of the Mystical Body, not of man."

Again, what is your point?

"As I said, Babel saw division into different languages. If you don't consider it irrelevant, why don't you object to people of different nations, within the same race, mixing?

Again, you are obfuscating the issue, similar race trumps national borders, especially these days. As far as the Babel story, go back to what I wrote about how the different races came about from different tongues at one time. This is not true so much today. Thanks to multiculturalism and miscegenation.

"As I've said, many times, I'm not a multiculturalist."

I'm not buying it. Well, in the least, you approve mass miscegenation and are ambivalent with the eradication of the lighter races. Ethnic genocide is no big deal to your type, as a matter of fact you view it as "God's will" when you damn know well it is because of an insane liberal minded agenda and the leftist, commie mentality that are determined to do just that, genocide groups of races.

alaric · « **Reply #109 on:** May 08, 2012, 01:04:51 PM »

"As for language barriers, make up your mind! Just now you were saying that Irish and German belong to the same race, implying that the language barrier is unimportant! But language is precisely what people were divided by at Babel. "-Clare

Oh boy, you need to pick up a history book. the Irish descended from the Celts, the Celts originated in Central Europe......OK Clare, time to put our thinking caps on.

Where is Germany located? Someone didn't pay attention in geography class did they?

BTW, this is one of them cases where language is not so important. Germans and Irish racially are the same people, just about.

"And, it's not that I desire all races melded together. It's simply that I do not oppose people of different races getting along! And I'm not worried about what might transpire when they do. Light brown people are created in God's image too, and there are places for them in Heaven (and Hell) just like there are for the rest of us."

Really? And where did I say we couldn't "get along"? Seems that us whiteys are doing everything we can do to "get along" but are still the victims of rape and violence regardless, so, you tell me what's the problem here.

Funny, the last time I heard about us all "trying to get along" they were rioting in LA, pulling white people out of their trucks, beating them half to death, burning and looting Korean shops and committing all kinds of savagery because of "black rage".

I think there's just too many that don't work well and play with others for us all to just "get along" in the end. But that' just me.

"It does not worry me! "

Someday it will, trust me.