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New Sungenis film: The Fool on the Hill
« on: July 11, 2019, 09:55:34 PM »
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  • Robert Sungenis (follower of the Hippie Council) has uploaded a new film on his youtube channel yesterday:

     

    The film explains how and why geocentrism is proven empirically by modern science.
    It is absurd to imagine that he who is outside can command in the Church — Leo XIII., Satis Cognitum, 1896

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    Re: New Sungenis film: The Fool on the Hill
    « Reply #1 on: July 17, 2019, 01:15:03 PM »
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  • He is soooo smart. But he couldn't figure out he was in the wrong religion for 19 years after he left the Catholic Church as a young man.

    He holds a "doctorate" from Calamus International University in the Republic of Vanuatu, a noted diploma mill.


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    Assorted wild beliefs
    • Sungenis promotes the idea that the moon landings never happened. He believes that "Any intelligent person who has studied the issue is going to have doubts as to whether the United States had the capability to put a man on the moon in 1969."

    • He believes that the United States government is actively producing crop circles. He thinks that "crop circles can be made from space with lasers or plasma projectors," and that NASA would simply have to "put a digital pattern in a laser/plasma projector aboard a satellite and then shoot it down to earth, and presto, you have a crop circle." The point of such an exercise? "It gets everybody talking about UFOs… getting our minds off the Bible and Christ by making it look like neither are true."




    Anyone with half a brain would run away from this guy. He is literally a carbuncle on the rear end of Tradition.

    Hey, here is a great idea. Lets promote conspiracy theories so by this means we will convert the world to Catholicism.


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    Re: New Sungenis film: The Fool on the Hill
    « Reply #2 on: July 17, 2019, 01:40:03 PM »
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  • He is soooo smart. But he couldn't figure out he was in the wrong religion for 19 years after he left the Catholic Church as a young man.

    He holds a "doctorate" from Calamus International University in the Republic of Vanuatu, a noted diploma mill.


    Anyone with half a brain would run away from this guy. He is literally a carbuncle on the rear end of Tradition.

    Hey, here is a great idea. Lets promote conspiracy theories so by this means we will convert the world to Catholicism.

    I wouldn't even trust him, if he rejected the Conciliar Sect and his PhD was in Astrophysics imparted by Copernicanian Professor Steven Hawking teaching from the Chair of Alchemist Isaac Newton at Cambridge.

    But he is simply right with Aether and Geocentrism proven by the experiments of Michelson, Morley, Gale, Sagnac and Airy.

    Can't trust noone in these times.
    It is absurd to imagine that he who is outside can command in the Church — Leo XIII., Satis Cognitum, 1896

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    Re: New Sungenis film: The Fool on the Hill
    « Reply #3 on: July 17, 2019, 01:50:58 PM »
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  • The moon landing never happened. AlQaida was a cover story for 9/11. If you believe the establishment explanations for these two "events", you will believe anything , and that's the point , of course. They are training modules for mass mind control and it's working.

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    Re: New Sungenis film: The Fool on the Hill
    « Reply #4 on: July 20, 2019, 01:18:29 PM »
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  • This is a brilliant video. It shows us how the Earthmovers used Albert Einstein to find a way out of the M&M test that showed the Earth is not orbiting the sun. Einstein's theories were based on frauds and have been falsified many times. I especially liked the moving illustrations that show without any doubt that stellar aberration and parallax can be attributed to either heliocentrism or geocentrism so were never proofs for heliocentrism as claimed up to this day..

    Now it is over 100 years since science itself admitted geocentrism was never proven wrong. We know why science and scientists will never acknowledge geocentrism as a probability, but why didn't the Catholic Church takle on board these findings also? For centuries the Church has been ridiculed over its defence of biblical geocentrism, so why didn't churchmen respond when science had to admit the evidence was more for geocentrism than heliocentrism?

    Well I will tell you why, for hadn't Pope Pius VII with his imprimatur for heliocentric books in 1820, put the Catholic Church behind heliocentrism 'as understood by modern astronomers' as a truth. Indeed this same pope decreed that anyone trying to stop heliocentrism as understood by modern astronomers would be PUNISHED. In other words, to  admit the 1616 decree of Pope Paul V was never falsified, that would have shown the Church contradicted a true teaching of previous popes at the highest level.

    Now we are talking about the Church of Pope Saint Pius X, a pope fighting the effects of that U-turn as it created Modernism in different spheres. He had his  man appointed to the Vatican Observatory, yet the Jesuits in that observatory never said a word except confirm all the heliocentric cosmology. This was a time when Monsignor Abbe Georges Lemaitre the cosmologist was pals with Einstein who was the one who admitted Geo is a viable as helio. So, why did Fr Lemaitre ignore what would have stopped so many centuries of criticism of the Catholic Church and science?

    That is what is at stake here in this video. I would love to have tied JP2, admirer of Einstein and his Relativity, to a chair and made him watch it.


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    Re: New Sungenis film: The Fool on the Hill
    « Reply #5 on: July 20, 2019, 06:00:17 PM »
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  • Now we are talking about the Church of Pope Saint Pius X, a pope fighting the effects of that U-turn as it created Modernism in different spheres. He had his  man appointed to the Vatican Observatory, yet the Jesuits in that observatory never said a word except confirm all the heliocentric cosmology. This was a time when Monsignor Abbe Georges Lemaitre the cosmologist was pals with Einstein who was the one who admitted Geo is a viable as helio. So, why did Fr Lemaitre ignore what would have stopped so many centuries of criticism of the Catholic Church and science?

    That is what is at stake here in this video. I would love to have tied JP2, admirer of Einstein and his Relativity, to a chair and made him watch it.

    Many credibility problems with Einstein.

    He was a Zionist for sure, who collaborated with American zionist (Baruch, FDR, Oppenhiemer et al) using US taxpayer funds to make the jew's "Golem" bomb.  Nuking Catholics (Nagasaki) for dramatic experimentation, along the way.

    Albert Einstein Link



    Albert Einstein (March 14, 1879 – April 18, 1955) was a Jewish Marxist physicist from Germany. He is the inventor of Einsteinism, the concept of pervasive fallacious, plagiarized and unscientific works. His writings, including for example his popular 1924 book, contain the theft of intellectual property, e.g. plagiarism of the Lorentz-transformation, plagiarism of the mass–energy equivalence, E = mc 2, and plagiarism of Gerber’s ground-breaking work on the speed of gravity.

    Einstein makes several wrong predictions of “new physical phenomena” such as the prediction that clocks will work at a faster rate when placed in a weaker gravitational field, a prediction that is obviously wrong as for example an hourglass will work at a slower rate when placed in a weaker gravitational field. Einstein undeservedly received the 1921 Nobel Prize in Physics “for his services to Theoretical Physics, and especially for his discovery of the law of the photoelectric effect. In 1887, Heinrich Hertz discovered that electrodes illuminated with ultraviolet light create electric sparks more easily.

    In 1905 Einstein published the paper explaining experimental data from Hertz photoelectric effect. It was actually Hertz discovery that led to the quantum revolution yet Einstein was awarded the Nobel Prize in 1921 for “his discovery of the law of the photoelectric effect”.



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    “The Germans can be killed or constrained after the war, but they cannot be re-educated to a democratic way of thinking and acting.”……it is hoped that by war’s end, they will largely have been killed off.” – Albert Einstein

    Nikola Tesla gave a scathing analysis of Einstein’s relativity theory calling it a “Magnificent mathematical garb which fascinates, dazzles and makes people blind to the underlying errors. The theory is like a beggar clothed in purple whom ignorant people take for a king”…’, (New York Times, 11 July 1935, p23, c.

    John Murray Cuddihy said, “Einstein was motivated by a desire to distort and destroy Western science.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: New Sungenis film: The Fool on the Hill
    « Reply #6 on: July 20, 2019, 08:12:40 PM »
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  • E rev around S :cheers:
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    Re: New Sungenis film: The Fool on the Hill
    « Reply #7 on: July 20, 2019, 08:13:55 PM »
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  • This is a brilliant video. It shows us how the Earthmovers used Albert Einstein to find a way out of the M&M test that showed the Earth is not orbiting the sun. Einstein's theories were based on frauds and have been falsified many times. I especially liked the moving illustrations that show without any doubt that stellar aberration and parallax can be attributed to either heliocentrism or geocentrism so were never proofs for heliocentrism as claimed up to this day.

    Yes, many people can't even grasp Galilean relativistic kinematics, and believe in all sorts of false proof against geocentrism. Sungenis makes things comprehensible.



    Indeed this same pope [Pope Pius VII] decreed that anyone trying to stop heliocentrism as understood by modern astronomers would be PUNISHED.

    I can't believe this one. Could you please quote Pope Pius VII?!
    It is absurd to imagine that he who is outside can command in the Church — Leo XIII., Satis Cognitum, 1896


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    Re: New Sungenis film: The Fool on the Hill
    « Reply #8 on: July 20, 2019, 09:18:24 PM »
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  • Good documentary.  

    I'd like to hear about Isaac Newton.  I have a copy of Principia, but I'd like a critical guide through it.  
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    Re: New Sungenis film: The Fool on the Hill
    « Reply #9 on: July 20, 2019, 09:33:22 PM »
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  • Sungenis makes things comprehensible.
    He makes things simplistic and incorrect.

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    Re: New Sungenis film: The Fool on the Hill
    « Reply #10 on: July 20, 2019, 09:52:00 PM »
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  • Good documentary.  

    I'd like to hear about Isaac Newton.  I have a copy of Principia, but I'd like a critical guide through it.  

    I don't know of such a guide.

    But the core problem consists in Newton's interpretation of his bucket experiment (Principia, Book 1, Scholium, "If a vessel, hung by a long cord, is so often turned about that the cord is strongly twisted ...").

    This is discussed by Mach. (Mach, Ernst (1960). The Science of Mechanics; a Critical and Historical Account of its Development.)
    It is absurd to imagine that he who is outside can command in the Church — Leo XIII., Satis Cognitum, 1896


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    Re: New Sungenis film: The Fool on the Hill
    « Reply #11 on: July 20, 2019, 10:00:01 PM »
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  • He makes things simplistic and incorrect.

    We discussed things before. Sungenis' new film quotes a guy who did the maths for your dynamics problems, his papers can be found online.

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    Luka Popov "Dynamical description of Tychonian Universe"

    Abstract. Using Mach’s principle, we will show that the observed diurnal and annual
    motion of the Earth can just as well be accounted as the diurnal rotation and annual
    revolution of the Universe around the fixed and centered Earth. This can be performed
    by postulating the existence of vector and scalar potentials caused by the simultaneous
    motion of the masses in the Universe, including the distant stars.

    It is absurd to imagine that he who is outside can command in the Church — Leo XIII., Satis Cognitum, 1896

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    Re: New Sungenis film: The Fool on the Hill
    « Reply #12 on: July 20, 2019, 10:41:11 PM »
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  • We discussed things before. Sungenis' new film quotes a guy who did the maths for your dynamics problems, his papers can be found online.
    Why do you accept Popov's papers?

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    « Reply #13 on: July 20, 2019, 11:13:58 PM »
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    Anyone with half a brain would run away from this guy. He is literally a carbuncle on the rear end of Tradition.

    I guess I must be numbered among those with “half a brain.” Because, like Sungenis, I believe that the moon landing was probably a giant (diabolical) hoax. I think this belief is based upon testimony of current officials of NASA themselves.
    I believe, like Sungenis, that it is highly plausible that crop circles might be generated from space by governments on earth, (viz. The US?)
    I, like Sungenis, believe that Al-Qaeda did NOT do 911. Israel was likely very much involved in the event, and they could very well have used small nuclear devices to accomplish the deed. It was obviously an inside job.  Although nano-thermite seems to be another plausible candidate, as well.
    That dinosaurs existed contemporaneously with humans is not implausible, IMO.
    That the Church either promoted heliocentrism, or, at the very least, did little to refute the theory, seems to square with the facts historically. So Sungenis is not off base on this issue either.
    That God may have prompted Sungenis to promote geocentrim is a matter we can not really comment on with much authority.
    And, although Sandy Hook has not been brought up on this thread, I will simply state that the whole thing was a giant gun control conspiracy and government-staged psyop  which backfired on them.  I identify with the findings of James Fetzer, Wolfgang Halbig and others.
    So again, count me among the half-brainers.

     
     

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    Re: New Sungenis film: The Fool on the Hill
    « Reply #14 on: July 21, 2019, 04:14:31 AM »
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  • Yes, many people can't even grasp Galilean relativistic kinematics, and believe in all sorts of false proof against geocentrism. Sungenis makes things comprehensible.

    I can't believe this one. Could you please quote Pope Pius VII?!

    1820 Decree states: ‘The Assessor of the Holy Office has referred the request of Giuseppe Settele, Professor of Astronomy at La Sapienza University, regarding permission to publish his work Elements of Astronomy in which he espouses the common opinion of the astronomers of our time regarding the Earth’s daily and yearly motions, to His Holiness through Divine Providence, Pope Pius VII. Previously, His Holiness had referred this request to the Supreme Sacred Congregation and concurrently to the consideration of the Most Eminent and Reverend General Cardinal Inquisitor. His Holiness has decreed that no obstacles exist for those who sustain Copernicus’ affirmation regarding the Earth’s movement in the manner in which it is affirmed today [non-violent], even by Catholic authors. He has, moreover, suggested the insertion of several notations into this work, aimed at demonstrating that the above mentioned affirmation, as it is has come to be understood, does not present any difficulties; difficulties that existed in times past, prior to the subsequent astronomical observations that have now occurred. [Pope Pius VII] has also recommended that the implementation [of these decisions] be given to the Cardinal Secretary of the Supreme Sacred Congregation and Master of the Sacred Apostolic Palace. He is now appointed the task of bringing to an end any concerns and criticisms regarding the printing of this book, and, at the same time, ensuring that in the future, regarding the publication of such works, permission is sought from the Cardinal Vicar whose signature will not be given without the authorization of the Superior of his Order.’[1]

    [1] Finocchiaro's Retrying Galileo references: W. Brandmüller and E.J. Greipl; eds., Copernico, Galileo e la Chiesa. Fine della controversia (1820). Gli atti del Sant’uffizio (Florence: Leo Olschki, 1992),  pp.300-301; translation from  Interdisciplinary Encyclopedia of Religion and Science

    ‘The most excellent [Holy Office] have decreed [1822] that there must be no denial, by the present or by future Masters of the Sacred Apostolic Palace, of permission to print and to publish works which treat of the mobility of the Earth and of the immobility of the sun, according to the common opinion of modern astronomers, as long as there are no other contrary indications, on the basis of the decrees of the Sacred Congregation of the Index of 1757 and of this Supreme [Holy Office] of 1820; and that those who would show themselves to be reluctant or would disobey, should be forced under punishments at the choice of [this] Sacred Congregation, with derogation of [their] claimed privileges, where necessary.’[1]

    [1] Finocchiaro's Retrying Galileo references: A. Fantoli: Galileo; For Copernicanism and for the Church, p.475.




     

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