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Offline Geremia

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Malachi Martin a Modernist & controlled opposition
« Reply #45 on: December 14, 2025, 08:59:12 PM »
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  • Malachi Martin was a peritus at Vatican II of judaizing Cdl. Bea, supposedly he worked with (sedeprivationist) Bishop Robert Mckenna, O.P. (✝2015) on exorcisms (source: Slaves of Satan ch. 6), and praised Hans Urs von Balthasar!
    Quote from: Malachi Martin letter to Wolfgang Smith, March 23, 1998
    Hans Urs von Balthasar was probably the biggest theological thinker emerging from the Society of Jesus in the 20th century. [!!!] […]
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    The dominant school of theology in the Roman Catholic Church today holds that the supernatural is received in the human soul connaturally; the human soul is in potency to be supernaturalized. For, the clever modernist [sic! This is a Thomistic axiom!] argument runs: quidquid recipitur, ad modum recipientis recipitur. If I can receive supernatural grace, that “can” implies a potency in me for the supernatural. But if I have a natural potency for the supernatural, I have—in my human nature—some supernatural element. QED. That is why a phenomenologic-ontological analysis of the religious sense by John Paul II concludes that every human being, by the very fact of being conceived—yes, even as a zygote clinging to the endometrial wall of its mother—is already united with Christ, is already living a supernatural life [cf. Redemptor Hominis].
    source: In Quest of Catholicity: Malachi Martin Responds to Wolfgang Smith
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    Re: New Malachi Martin Book
    « Reply #46 on: December 15, 2025, 07:19:18 PM »
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  • Book has been out for a couple weeks now.  23 reviews at Amazon.  Who here has read it?


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    Re: New Malachi Martin Book
    « Reply #47 on: December 16, 2025, 07:54:16 PM »
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  • A book should be written exposing Malachi Martin's Marrano priesthood.

    Gary Giuffre' had many exchanges with Martin, including a deadly encounter where Martin threatened Giuffre' if he continued to publicly pursue Cardinal Siri's cancelled papal election.

     A week or so after a 1980's Siri conference in Cincinnati where wealthy trad backers wanted to go public with the invalidated 1958 Conclave, Giuffre' told Malachi Martin who was clearly agitated by the news.
     
    Three days later, Martin contacted Giuffre' 
    to advise him Cardinal Siri was dead and in so many words, threatened him not to pursue the story.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: New Malachi Martin Book
    « Reply #48 on: December 16, 2025, 10:31:27 PM »
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  • Book has been out for a couple weeks now.  23 reviews at Amazon.  Who here has read it?

    I was under the impression that Martin matured and moved away from the Judaized aspects of the Jesuits, abandoning them, and then he wrote The Keys of this Blood. Am I wrong in this?

    I do not think that people are static, unchanging, developing creatures. I do not think that "old" Malachi Martin is the same as was the "young" Malachi Martin.
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    Re: New Malachi Martin Book
    « Reply #49 on: December 16, 2025, 11:17:34 PM »
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  • I was under the impression that Martin matured and moved away from the Judaized aspects of the Jesuits, abandoning them, and then he wrote The Keys of this Blood. Am I wrong in this?

    I do not think that people are static, unchanging, developing creatures. I do not think that "old" Malachi Martin is the same as was the "young" Malachi Martin.

    Maybe, maybe not.  That's precisely the problem with someone who blends fact with fiction, change stories, and contradicts himself, no?

    If he was some evil guy working for Bea who by his own admission got a rush out of blackmailing Cardinals ... does a person like that truly see the light unless he has an almost literaly "Road to Damascus" episode ... except that Fr. Martin recounts no such incident.

    If someone was a deliberate agent of the Jews and Masons blackmailing Cardinals, how does anyone  simply take his word for it that he had changed?  He could be lying and that what he was doing now was part of his operation, to sow confusion and doubt.


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    Re: New Malachi Martin Book
    « Reply #50 on: December 16, 2025, 11:20:49 PM »
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  • A book should be written exposing Malachi Martin's Marrano priesthood.

    Gary Giuffre' had many exchanges with Martin, including a deadly encounter where Martin threatened Giuffre' if he continued to publicly pursue Cardinal Siri's cancelled papal election.

    A week or so after a 1980's Siri conference in Cincinnati where wealthy trad backers wanted to go public with the invalidated 1958 Conclave, Giuffre' told Malachi Martin who was clearly agitated by the news.
     
    Three days later, Martin contacted Giuffre'
    to advise him Cardinal Siri was dead and in so many words, threatened him not to pursue the story.

    So ... I almost forgot about that one, but Gary Giuffre is a very honest man and he would not make something like this up.  There are one or two details about the story where it may have been his interpreation, such as where he claims Fr. Martin wrote something in one of his books to deliberately cast doubt on the Siri Theory by subtly changing it.  That one detail I'm not sure about, since Fr. Martin could have just included a version of the story in his just because he thought it would heighten interest and sell more copies ... and if he changed it slightly, he constantly did that as a matter of course.  But the phone call thing, and there was some death related to docuмent that he was going to receive from someone in France, if I recall.

    But, overall, if Gary Giuffre said that something happened, then he's a very honest man, would not lie ... so long as you keep in mind what he's relating as fact and what he might be putting an interpretatio on.  I can't quite recall the details of the phone call and the death ... but it was in fact striking.

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    Re: New Malachi Martin Book
    « Reply #51 on: December 17, 2025, 07:27:58 AM »
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  • I'll fish out the Giuffre' presentation on Martin.
    It's fascinating.  Early on in his " Siri Theory" research Giuffre' was advised to seek out Martin for advise. 

      Giuffre' made contact and went to Martin's Manhattan apartment totally naive as to what Martin was all about.  He met Martin's concubine. There was no effort to conceal her.

    In the meeting Martin was visibly agitated and he assumed Giuffre' was the front man for a bigger investigative operation.  Giuffre' was unaware at the time. he had walked into the Marrano's lair.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: New Malachi Martin Book
    « Reply #52 on: December 17, 2025, 08:00:24 AM »
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  • Maybe, maybe not.  That's precisely the problem with someone who blends fact with fiction, change stories, and contradicts himself, no?


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    Re: New Malachi Martin Book
    « Reply #53 on: December 17, 2025, 09:48:58 AM »
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  • Martin was a high placed asset for the Revolution.  He had a great cover being a Jesuit.

    Then of course the "story" of his dispensation of his priestly duties by the Jєωιѕн ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ Luciferian Pope. Paul VI.

    But when you step back and view his book writing and media activities, he was instrumental in misdirecting the faithful.

    He morphed from being a liberal to a trad.
    He attained credibility and noteriety with his trad Catholic knowledge and exorcism schtick.

    He was effective in making Catholics believe the great jew Judaizer, JPII was authentic.

    And he guarded against anyone getting too close to the truth, such as the hijacked Conclave of 1958.

    Gary Giuffre' had met Kakia when he first visited Martin's Manhattan apartment.

    As the Blacks say. she was his "steady squeeze"

    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: New Malachi Martin Book
    « Reply #54 on: December 17, 2025, 02:43:24 PM »
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  • So ... I almost forgot about that one, but Gary Giuffre is a very honest man and he would not make something like this up.  There are one or two details about the story where it may have been his interpreation, such as where he claims Fr. Martin wrote something in one of his books to deliberately cast doubt on the Siri Theory by subtly changing it.  That one detail I'm not sure about, since Fr. Martin could have just included a version of the story in his just because he thought it would heighten interest and sell more copies ... and if he changed it slightly, he constantly did that as a matter of course.  But the phone call thing, and there was some death related to docuмent that he was going to receive from someone in France, if I recall.

    But, overall, if Gary Giuffre said that something happened, then he's a very honest man, would not lie ... so long as you keep in mind what he's relating as fact and what he might be putting an interpretatio on.  I can't quite recall the details of the phone call and the death ... but it was in fact striking.
    This is my favorite version of Lad: thoughtful, balanced, open. Thank you!
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    Re: New Malachi Martin Book
    « Reply #55 on: December 17, 2025, 03:12:17 PM »
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  •   Giuffre' made contact and went to Martin's Manhattan apartment totally naive as to what Martin was all about.  He met Martin's concubine. There was no effort to conceal her.
    According to this video with the author, Martin's landlords were a husband and wife. He had a small room in their spacious home. I have read this from other sources as well. This explains why "no effort was made to conceal". The word "concubine" has no basis in fact, only in the fevered imagination of Gary Giuffre.


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    Re: New Malachi Martin Book
    « Reply #56 on: December 17, 2025, 04:51:45 PM »
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  • A poor priest living in a closet within his landlord's house to save money in glamorous Manhattan and then being buried with his landlord's wife makes sense.

    :popcorn:

    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: New Malachi Martin Book
    « Reply #57 on: December 17, 2025, 05:43:44 PM »
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  • So, the "concubine" thing is one of those points that I've heard variations on, where I think the story was that he was told to go live with a family, and the woman acted largely in the capacity of a caretaker or housekeeper, etc.  On one level it might be considered scandalous, and then on another I thought Fr. Martin had been dispensed from his vows, and somehow partly laicized.  Not sure on that one, but to me that's less important than whether he's telling the truth about other matters.  We can and probably should give him the benefit of the doubt on that matter, since it really does not have any direct effect on us.

    This is one of those things where Mr. Giuffre makes an interpretation of the situation, and those are the types of judgments that can be sorted out from within his story.  So if he relates facts, like after Fr. Martin called me and said this, a week later someone was dead.  But could it have been concidence?  What was Fr. Martin's tone?  Since we weren't there, he may have detected some tone that we might not have read into it had we heard the same words.

    We probably won't know the truth in this life.

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    Re: New Malachi Martin Book
    « Reply #58 on: December 18, 2025, 10:56:57 AM »
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  • Ask yourself. "Who benefits" from Malachi Martin's mythical interpretation of the Church crisis, where JPII is God's chosen hero... the jews or traditional Catholics?

    And who benefits from Gary Giuffre's pre-internet sleuthing on the conspirators inside the Church, who hijacked the 1958 Conclave... jews or traditional Catholics?

    There is a spiritual price to pay for not using your graces of discernment, for enjoying the Kayfabe, even though you know it doesn't add up and is likely a lie.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: New Malachi Martin Book
    « Reply #59 on: December 18, 2025, 01:21:37 PM »
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  • Ask yourself. "Who benefits" from Malachi Martin's mythical interpretation of the Church crisis, where JPII is God's chosen hero... the jews or traditional Catholics?

    Honestly?  Probably just Malachi Martin himself.  $$$ ... he undoubtedly chose not to run afoul of JP2 because the latter "Santo Subito" has a very broad appeal and so he'd drastically reduce his potential audience and revenue base.