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Re: New Malachi Martin Book
« Reply #45 on: December 17, 2025, 04:51:45 PM »
A poor priest living in a closet within his landlord's house to save money in glamorous Manhattan and then being buried with his landlord's wife makes sense.

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Re: New Malachi Martin Book
« Reply #46 on: December 17, 2025, 05:43:44 PM »
So, the "concubine" thing is one of those points that I've heard variations on, where I think the story was that he was told to go live with a family, and the woman acted largely in the capacity of a caretaker or housekeeper, etc.  On one level it might be considered scandalous, and then on another I thought Fr. Martin had been dispensed from his vows, and somehow partly laicized.  Not sure on that one, but to me that's less important than whether he's telling the truth about other matters.  We can and probably should give him the benefit of the doubt on that matter, since it really does not have any direct effect on us.

This is one of those things where Mr. Giuffre makes an interpretation of the situation, and those are the types of judgments that can be sorted out from within his story.  So if he relates facts, like after Fr. Martin called me and said this, a week later someone was dead.  But could it have been concidence?  What was Fr. Martin's tone?  Since we weren't there, he may have detected some tone that we might not have read into it had we heard the same words.

We probably won't know the truth in this life.


Re: New Malachi Martin Book
« Reply #47 on: December 18, 2025, 10:56:57 AM »

Ask yourself. "Who benefits" from Malachi Martin's mythical interpretation of the Church crisis, where JPII is God's chosen hero... the jews or traditional Catholics?

And who benefits from Gary Giuffre's pre-internet sleuthing on the conspirators inside the Church, who hijacked the 1958 Conclave... jews or traditional Catholics?

There is a spiritual price to pay for not using your graces of discernment, for enjoying the Kayfabe, even though you know it doesn't add up and is likely a lie.

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Re: New Malachi Martin Book
« Reply #48 on: December 18, 2025, 01:21:37 PM »
Ask yourself. "Who benefits" from Malachi Martin's mythical interpretation of the Church crisis, where JPII is God's chosen hero... the jews or traditional Catholics?

Honestly?  Probably just Malachi Martin himself.  $$$ ... he undoubtedly chose not to run afoul of JP2 because the latter "Santo Subito" has a very broad appeal and so he'd drastically reduce his potential audience and revenue base.

Re: New Malachi Martin Book
« Reply #49 on: December 18, 2025, 09:50:25 PM »

Martin called Adrienne von Speyr Hans Urs von Balthasar's "beloved".  John Paul II Beatified? p. 27:
Quote from: Fr. Luigi Villa
Balthasar was primarily guided in theology, by a woman, Adrienne von Speyr. Von Speyr was a doctor of medicine, with whom Balthasar lived, in "spiritual brotherhood" for 27 years! She was a Protestant who tried to commit ѕυιcιdє in a bathtub. Afterward, having failed, she, then, converted. However she went to Mass only twice a year.
Martin thought she preceded Balthasar to heaven!
Quote from: Malachi Martin
I think Christ, whose vicar the Pope is, decided not to expose this man’s soul to the Curial corruption of today, so He designated him to be a Cardinal and then called him home to heaven where he had been preceded by his beloved Adrienne von Speyr.
source: In Quest of Catholicity: Malachi Martin Responds to Wolfgang Smith