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You can't believe it? Seriously?

You have had people on this forum asking others to pray to "Saint Adolf Hitler". You have a number of posters who are quite comfortable with the nαzι ideology-TheKnightVigilant gave you a partial listing. You have jozeftiso1947 defending the persecution of Catholic clergy, earlier in this thread, because they were supposedly all modernist. Riiigght. Just like Maximilian Kolbe.

Hey I own both Mein Kampf and Hitler's Table Talk, both books are quite fascinating. :wink:

That must make me a nαzι.

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I think it is quite clear that Traditional Guy 20 had his mind rotted at public school.

I think it is quite clear you are an elitist sir. :wink:

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He does not believe in charity. He does not believe in the Social Doctrine of the Church, which protects and cherishes the weak and the lowly. Which respects the rights of private property, but also the rights of the poor.

I do believe in charity sir, you misunderstand me, since I do believe in a living wage. We are speaking of in terms of mankind, yes some people have more talent and abilities than others in society.

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He does not believe in the words of the Blessed Virgin "He hath put down the mighty from their seat, and hath exalted the humble." He believes that the powerful will inherit the earth. He rejects the wise words of Pius XII and Leo XIII.

Only the individual with a strong personality can really rule the nation. So yes those with the ability and talent will rise up in society. We are not democrats here nor are we Marxist egalitarians.

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No doubt he would have considered the Son of God a "left winger".

You are making a lot of baseless allegations here. I agree in charity for the poor, in fact I sometimes have to use Church relief programs since I only make $22,000 a year. What I don't agree with though is giving welfare to foreign scroungers (i.e. those coming across the Mexican border).

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Stop listening to Rush Limbaugh and heed the Word of God.

I listen to people who are no doubt too right-wing for you.

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Hitler Youth would disrupt Catholic Rosary processions loudly screaming "Germany is our Faith", Catholic priests were sent to Dachau to be abused, starved, killed and worked to death. The National Socialists persecuted the Catholic Church since the early '30s with massive propaganda campaigns against its Holy priests, Bishops and nuns.

Read the sermons of Bishop von Galen of Muenster from this time,
read Fr. Lenz "Christ in Dachau" he was a prisoner in Dachau under Hitler for six years along with thousands of other priests, also killed, abused, etc.  

ANY defense of National Socialism and Hitler as defenders of the faith is a lie and you who promote this lie should be ashamed!

Don't hide behind anti Bolshevism either. That is incompetent.

I would expect a little more responsibility, but I understand that your gullibility for disinformation is not your fault. I pray for you.

I can't believe that 4 people on my forum downthumbed this.

Are there really that many Hitler fans?  Give me a break.

I want you all to explain yourselves.

They're the 'other' infiltrators.  They're the flipside of the Ballantines.  Naturally, as there is very little social and cultural influence to be a neo-nαzι (whereas there are PLENTY of influences to be a liberal) their numbers are dwarfed by those liberal infiltrators, but they are real nevertheless.  Whether or not they are positive agents of the enemy, they serve his purpose.  These people's identity is NOT tied up in Catholicism, and their submission to it is in the interest of political convenience and camouflage, not earnest love of truth and God.  Traditional Catholicism is the only religion that is anti-Jєωιѕн, so naturally neo-nαzιs will see it as a convenient camouflage, as they can be anti-Jєωιѕн without raising any alarms.  Until they start talking about what a great man Hitler was, at least.

This is far beyond addressing common American misconceptions resulting from propaganda.  These people don't just challenge the traditional h0Ɩ0cαųst story or work to dispel the 'evil and malevolent axis vs the wonderfully benevolent allies.'  They don't just point out the deathgrip that the ʝʊdɛօ-masonic lobby has on the world, in large part as a result of WWII. They long to live and serve Hitler, and everything that came with him.  NO criticism of him will be accepted.  The fact that he was an enemy of Catholicism is entirely irrelevant to them.  As I said, their Catholicism is accidental.  The false dichotomies are ripe with them.  Some, because they're simply ignorant and attracted to strong personalities, and others, because they really are rotten.  

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Hitler Youth would disrupt Catholic Rosary processions loudly screaming "Germany is our Faith", Catholic priests were sent to Dachau to be abused, starved, killed and worked to death. The National Socialists persecuted the Catholic Church since the early '30s with massive propaganda campaigns against its Holy priests, Bishops and nuns.

Read the sermons of Bishop von Galen of Muenster from this time,
read Fr. Lenz "Christ in Dachau" he was a prisoner in Dachau under Hitler for six years along with thousands of other priests, also killed, abused, etc.  

ANY defense of National Socialism and Hitler as defenders of the faith is a lie and you who promote this lie should be ashamed!

Don't hide behind anti Bolshevism either. That is incompetent.

I would expect a little more responsibility, but I understand that your gullibility for disinformation is not your fault. I pray for you.

I can't believe that 4 people on my forum downthumbed this.

Are there really that many Hitler fans?  Give me a break.

I want you all to explain yourselves.

They're the 'other' infiltrators.  They're the flipside of the Ballantines.  Naturally, as there is very little social and cultural influence to be a neo-nαzι (whereas there are PLENTY of influences to be a liberal) their numbers are dwarfed by those liberal infiltrators, but they are real nevertheless.  Whether or not they are positive agents of the enemy, they serve his purpose.  These people's identity is NOT tied up in Catholicism, and their submission to it is in the interest of political convenience and camouflage, not earnest love of truth and God.  Traditional Catholicism is the only religion that is anti-Jєωιѕн, so naturally neo-nαzιs will see it as a convenient camouflage, as they can be anti-Jєωιѕн without raising any alarms.  Until they start talking about what a great man Hitler was, at least.

This is far beyond addressing common American misconceptions resulting from propaganda.  These people don't just challenge the traditional h0Ɩ0cαųst story or work to dispel the 'evil and malevolent axis vs the wonderfully benevolent allies.'  They don't just point out the deathgrip that the ʝʊdɛօ-masonic lobby has on the world, in large part as a result of WWII. They long to live and serve Hitler, and everything that came with him.  NO criticism of him will be accepted.  The fact that he was an enemy of Catholicism is entirely irrelevant to them.  As I said, their Catholicism is accidental.  The false dichotomies are ripe with them.  Some, because they're simply ignorant and attracted to strong personalities, and others, because they really are rotten.  

This attitude is contrary to what the Catholic faith is all about.

You are damn right I am an elitist. Those with more intelligence and more education are the elite. Survival of the fittest, remember?

You overreact to leftism by embracing the anti-Catholic fascism of Hitler. Both are evil. The enemy of my enemy is not always my friend.

Your "right-wingism" is pathetic. Would you even recognize the names of the great lights of true conservatism, such as de Maistre, Burke, Weaver, Kirk, Eliot, Belloc, without recourse to Wikipedia? Have you ever even heard of them? Have you read The Conservative Mind, Ideas have Consequences, The Servile State, et al?

Nope. Too intellectual for the hard-working neo-nαzι.