So after the publication of Mein Kampf, Pius XI then hauls off and.......backs Hitler and the NSDAP so they could come into power in 1933, despite there being a supposed "Catholic" party that the Vatican had been backing up till then. Not only that, the Vatican has in place the Concordant prior the election which is why it came out to the public just weeks after the election.

Nah, nothing not jiving there.....


That bad 'ol Fuehrer was so evil that the Vatican never could get around to excommunicating him for his countless transgressions, but it wasted no time in excommunicating Goebbels for marrying a divorced Protestant. And to top it off, the Church in Germany ordered masses to be said for him after his death.


"But, but, but....", crikey, you folks are as ignorant of the war as a neo-con Catholic of the post Vatican II "church".........

Looks like it's time you give another history lesson... Looks like some have forgotten quickly the evidence you, and a few others, put forth not to long ago.  
:cheers:

Links to ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic publications trad123? Are you a fool or an agent?

Telephone game, indeed.

Barbs of truth:

https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/adolf-hitler/msg187166/?topicseen#msg187166


PereJoseph

Yes, I understand that international and domestic situation for Germany at the time.  How does this justify the fact that the Germans under Hitler and the official ideology of the National Socialist party practiced racialist eugenics through abortion and sterilisations and wanted to subject the Church, in its jurisdiction, to the "interests of the German people" (as if these could be separate from the interests of the Church) ?

So, your conclusion is that, because an eye was taken out, it was just to take out an eye in return ?  Because Germany truly suffered, it gets a pass on its disgusting violations of the natural law and its neo-pagan idolatry of its "racial and cultural purity," which, by the way, never existed ?

It was a secular state that forbade homeschooling and forced all children to attend public schools where they learned to worship themselves via fabricated Aryan mythology.  In affairs of state, they officially did not recognise the rights of God and the Church except as it seemed to benefit them.  The ideology of the party did not allow it.

So we're back to that -- Hitler was okay because the Communists were so bad.  Yes, they were bad, but the enemy of our enemy is not our friend.  Yes, they actively persecuted religion as such, though I would say that Hitler himself was a punishment upon the stiff-necked Germans in addition to the punishments that followed.  The point is that both régimes were evil, each according to its kind, and that their being enemies does not mean that Catholics must take sides with one or the other.

What about the Lebensraum plan, where Wehrbauern would colonise the East and make the Slavs German slaves for a thousand years ?

If a people want to survive, yes, they must be independent of international money powers and other private interests, securely under a sovereign power that is their own, and living according to the natural order.  This, naturally, I admit.  But must they likewise adopt a strange and idolatrous ideology that serves to make them loyal to an all-powerful centralised state that disrespects the sovereign rights of the Pope and the Church ?  No, of course not.  This endangers the survival of a people because it places them outside of the reign of the Sacred Heart of Jesus, without which there is no lasting peace in this world.

Pius XI wrote Mit Brennender Sorge to deal with the problems of the German ideology, which themselves were the outgrowth of centuries of German pride and self-love to the prejudice of the true religion (as evidenced by lay investiture, the Hohenstaufens, the Habsburgs sacking Rome, Protestantism, and then German nationalism).  This is what he wrote : "Whoever exalts race, or the people, or the State, or a particular form of State, or the depositories of power, or any other fundamental value of the human community - however necessary and honorable be their function in worldly things - whoever raises these notions above their standard value and divinizes them to an idolatrous level, distorts and perverts an order of the world planned and created by God; he is far from the true faith in God and from the concept of life which that faith upholds."  I suppose it was just a coincidence that he wrote the encyclical in German and ordered it to be read from every Catholic pulpit in Germany ?  He could have been talking about anything, most likely in the abstract !  

I am saying the same thing, that such a State was objectively a monster that needed to be slain.  I do not think the Red Army and the US, who replaced the monster with an even greater and more duplicitous one, were the ones to do that slaying.  That being said, clearly men did not become less sinful and less forgetful of God, and reaped what their pride had sown.  Let us imagine that international Jєωιѕн finance and Communism and Masonry did not exist, though.  Even then, the monster of the German nationalist state and its idolatrous ideology would be worthy of destruction -- for the sake of the common good of Christendom first, of course, and then, secondly, for the sake of the Germans themselves.

https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/men-and-women-of-the-forum-please-comment-on-my-thoughts-on-women-and/msg189179/?topicseen#msg189179


PereJoseph

Traditional Guy does me the service of making my points for me.  Here he clearly shows that his ideas are not Catholic in the least, that he worships race, that he believes that the true preservation of the natural order derives not from the Faith but from one's racial descent, and furthermore that he is very comfortable around Protestants as opposed to Catholics who come from a different race.

I have been saying, precisely, that this is the logical conclusion of all the White Nationalist rhetoric -- all of which derives from the Renaissance, the Liberalism of the Enlightenment, paganism, and New Age spiritualism.  These White Nationalists are either not Catholics or they are too stupid to realise or proud to admit that their febrile insecurities are a window for the devil to creep into their souls.  We should not hesitate to call their rhetoric evil, since such people ultimately cannot help the restoration of Christendom.  They show such disrespect for the rights of Our Lord now; if they are successful, we should not then expect them to humiliate themselves and set aside their prideful contempt for the Sacred Royalty of the Heart of Jesus and the dignity of His Church.

Of course, I am not speaking of everybody who has argued against me on the racial question, only a certain caste, of which Traditional Guy is obviously a good representative.

https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/mossad-the-Jєωιѕн-problem-dr-william-pierce/#msg604226


Theosist

So “Catholics” are now citing a notorious white nationalist, racialist and virulently anti-Christian creator of an atheistic religion based is a patchwork of Nieztsceanism, Darwinism and pagan pantheism? Really?

Stop making me laugh, Croix de Fer. You wouldn’t know Jesus Christ if he came knocking on your door.

Did anyone miss the post where Croix de Fer posted the Turner Diaries?


https://www.cathinfo.com/the-library/the-turner-diaries-by-dr-william-pierce/

The novel depicts a violent revolutionary struggle in the United States that begins with gun confiscation and then escalates into global depopulation, leading to the extermination of all Jєωs and non-whites.

https://www.cathinfo.com/politics-and-world-leaders/alt-right-is-limited-hangout/msg527696/?topicseen#msg527696

White nationalists appear to have completely bought into the alt right bait, with personalities like David Duke and Professor Kevin MacDonald riding the Trump, alt right bandwagon; although, MacDonald has demonstrated his awareness of the Jєωιѕн involvement in the alt right and is supporting it anyways likely for strategic reasons. White nationalist opposition to ʝʊdɛօ-Masonry has proven itself a failure (National Socialism) and is based in racialism. Only the Church has adequately addressed and dealt with the question. Any notion of the “true” alt right being hijacked from the supposed rightful heir white nationalists by Milo types is ridiculous. Neither of the two groups are the rightful heirs.

I think that is not quite accurate. What he thought was that Christ himself was Aryan. He found reason to believe so.

Jesus was a Jєω.

Jesus was a Jєω.

I think that is what Jєωs want us to believe...

And that He was brown....

And that He was ugly.


****Picture of the modern Jesus:

And that's what people like Varg Vikernes want us to believe. Beginning to think that he's a shill.

Pius XI also ordered the Cristero's to accept the peace treaty of the Masonic enemies, just when the Cristero's were on the verge of victory.

Pius XI rightly totally condemned communism, and a few years later Pius XII sophistically changed the condemnation to just enough acceptance of communism so the USA could go to war with Germany.

The Vatican was compromised after the death of Pius X.

From my readings this seems right. And fully agree with the bolded.

Pope Pius XII was scurrying to help Jєωs during WWII, but he didn't think any h0Ɩ0cαųst was happening, just that Jєωs would be placed in cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρs until war's end. So why help them? It's not like he thought they were going to be slaughtered. Pope John XXIII, when he was archbishop, was giving Jєωs baptisms of convenience.

Why didn't Churchmen in the United States give baptisms of convenience to German, Italian, and Japanese Americans placed in cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρs?

It just doesn't add up.

Archbishop Cassulo's 1941 protest in Romania was in answer to a state ruling that a change of religious status by a Jєω did not alter his legal status as a member of that persecuted "race". For the authorities had become suspicious, as did those in the Balkans, Hungary, and elsewhere later, of the number of Jєωιѕн "converts" to Catholicism. Until such a ruling was made in a nαzι-controlled country, however, a Jєω who could prove himself a member of the Catholic Church could usually use the evidence of that membership-a baptismal certificate as a safe-conduct paper to leave the country. No records have been published regarding who conceived the idea or how it was implemented, but the existence of the false baptismal certificates, and they number in the thousands, is a fact. It is also a fact that the Vatican was well aware of the plan, and that members of resistance groups, apostolic nuncios, nuns, representatives of Jєωιѕн aid groups based in the Allied countries, and untold numbers of ordinary citizens risked their welfare if not their lives to promote the ingenious scheme. By mid-1944, when only the Jєωs of Budapest had been temporarily spared in blood-soaked Hungary, another beloved Catholic figure had thrown his weight to the wheel, increasing the distribution of the baptismal certificates many times over; this was Pius XII's close friend and successor, Archbishop Roncalli, the late Pope John XXIII.<sup>51


source:http://www.Jєωιѕнvirtuallibrary.org/a-question-of-judgment-pius-xii-and-the-Jєωs</sup>