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Offline Maria Regina

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N.O. Priest condemns ѕυιcιdє at funeral
« on: December 16, 2018, 10:32:07 AM »
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    'Father, please stop': Parents horrified after priest used teen's funeral to condemn ѕυιcιdє

    Katie Mettler, The Washington Post
    Published 4:35 pm PST, Friday, December 14, 2018


    When Maison Hullibarger died by ѕυιcιdє on Dec. 4, his parents - devout Catholics - began planning a funeral that would celebrate their 18-year-old son's life. ...

    The Hullibargers were detailed, they said, and Father Don LaCuesta took notes.

    "We wanted him to celebrate how Maison lived," Linda Hullibarger told the Detroit Free Press, "not how he died." ...
    Of course, the archdiocese has denounced Father Don LaCuesta basically silencing him.

    To read the complete WaPo article, please visit: https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Father-please-stop-Parents-horrified-after-13467977.php

    I knew a priest who denounced ѕυιcιdє and at the funeral of a ѕυιcιdє he said that anyone who commits ѕυιcιdє puts their salvation at risk because by that final act, they have despaired and have failed to trust in God. Father denounced ѕυιcιdє very strongly at the funeral because several teenagers had called him and said that they were going to commit a group ѕυιcιdє in honor of the young man who had taken his life.
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    The priest could not remain silent or he would be complicit in more deaths by ѕυιcιdє.


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    Re: N.O. Priest condemns ѕυιcιdє at funeral
    « Reply #1 on: December 16, 2018, 03:15:08 PM »
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    • He’s absolutely right, and someone has to start saying it. We are loosing to many lives to this horrible thing. It also doesn’t help that when they commit ѕυιcιdє the kids are views as some softness of martyrs in their community. Part of me questions his timing, but he had to say it. We need to start saving the children!
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    « Reply #2 on: December 16, 2018, 03:30:28 PM »
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    • Agreed.  There have been a few ѕυιcιdєs in our local schools this past Fall.  It's crazy.  And folks are too quick to say...."well, he/she is in a better place now" or " he/she is no longer suffering", etc. etc. 
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    « Reply #3 on: December 16, 2018, 04:09:12 PM »
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    • ѕυιcιdє is a sin against the Holy Ghost. The soul is damned eternally.
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    « Reply #4 on: December 16, 2018, 04:51:11 PM »
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    • Quote from: Vintagewife3 on December 16, 2018, 03:15:08 PM
    He’s absolutely right, and someone has to start saying it. We are loosing to many lives to this horrible thing. It also doesn’t help that when they commit ѕυιcιdє the kids are views as some softness of martyrs in their community. Part of me questions his timing, but he had to say it. We need to start saving the children!
    Viewed as some sort of martyr* sorry, I got distracted!
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    « Reply #5 on: December 16, 2018, 08:24:00 PM »
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    • I tried unsuccessfully to copy and paste excerpts from this article

     http://canonlawmadeeasy.com/2016/04/07/ѕυιcιdє-catholic-funerals/
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    « Reply #6 on: December 16, 2018, 08:25:57 PM »
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    • Why is this man presiding at a ѕυιcιdє's funeral?
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    « Reply #7 on: December 16, 2018, 08:37:57 PM »
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    • "He basically called our son a sinner," Linda told the Toledo Blade.
    Sad story, but these parents are definitely not "devout Catholics".
    Hats off to the priest. People are just not used to hearing the truth.
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    « Reply #8 on: December 16, 2018, 09:11:40 PM »
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    • I read this article yesterday and had a question: What role does medication play in mitigating the sinfulness of ѕυιcιdє?
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    In a recent news story about a very young person who took their own life, it was noted that they were on prescription meds which had a listed side-effect of suicidal tendencies.
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    « Reply #9 on: December 17, 2018, 04:56:07 AM »
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    • Quote from: Nadir on December 16, 2018, 08:37:57 PM
    "He basically called our son a sinner," Linda told the Toledo Blade.
    Sad story, but these parents are definitely not "devout Catholics".
    Hats off to the priest. People are just not used to hearing the truth.
    Objectively speaking, they aren't even Catholic let alone "devout".
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    Re: N.O. Priest condemns ѕυιcιdє at funeral
    « Reply #10 on: December 17, 2018, 05:27:47 AM »
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    • Quote from: MaterDominici on December 16, 2018, 09:11:40 PM
    I read this article yesterday and had a question: What role does medication play in mitigating the sinfulness of ѕυιcιdє?
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    In a recent news story about a very young person who took their own life, it was noted that they were on prescription meds which had a listed side-effect of suicidal tendencies.
    A person with mental illness who commits ѕυιcιdє, the mental illness mitigates the culpability for the sin. Also many time when someone who is hated by others commits ѕυιcιdє then those who drove him to it share in the culpability for the sin. I we should pray for the repose of his soul.
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    « Reply #11 on: December 17, 2018, 10:46:47 AM »
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    • Quote from: poche on December 17, 2018, 05:27:47 AM
    A person with mental illness who commits ѕυιcιdє, the mental illness mitigates the culpability for the sin.

    Wrong. Define "mental illness", and who gets to "diagnose" the "mental illness"? Most of the "mental illnesses" are false constructs to excuse behavior and enslave people to a pill and get them data-mined on a state registry so their liberties, such as exercising the 2nd Amendment, are prohibited.

    ѕυιcιdє is a sin against the Holy Ghost. The person suffers eternal perdition.
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    « Reply #12 on: December 17, 2018, 10:59:31 AM »
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    • Poche, a person can suffer from depression or anxiety. The problem comes in when they doubt God, and his infinite love for them. Sucide is doubting Gods love for you!

    Also, some mental illness, not all, are a problem of chemical imbalance, poor diet, and no true faith that God forgives you (after you’ve gone to confession of course) for the sins you committed. The world is so
     without Gods love, and comfort they turn their back on him by committing such a horrible selfish act. Everyone in this world needs a dose of sanctifying grace! 
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    « Reply #13 on: December 17, 2018, 11:25:01 AM »
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    • Quote from: MaterDominici on December 16, 2018, 09:11:40 PM
    I read this article yesterday and had a question: What role does medication play in mitigating the sinfulness of ѕυιcιdє?
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    In a recent news story about a very young person who took their own life, it was noted that they were on prescription meds which had a listed side-effect of suicidal tendencies.

    People should avoid all psyche meds. They do far more harm than any good. They alter brain chemistry for the worse. They create an artificial dopamine hit. Instead of experiencing rise and fall of dopamine that's commensurate with whether people are succeeding or failing at life, they have anti-depressants to shield them. They have no true perspective on where they are in life in terms of their success or failure. They have no real navigation system.
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    Re: N.O. Priest condemns ѕυιcιdє at funeral
    « Reply #14 on: December 17, 2018, 11:42:48 AM »
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    • When I first read the title of this thread, I thought it said; NO priest commits ѕυιcιdє at funeral. 
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