Yeah, that's ridiculous.  NORMAL men are not attracted to children or to boys.  Period.  So, what?, they can't find adult women to break their vows of chastity with?  It's not uncommon for a priest to run off with some woman (happened with a couple Traditional priests I knew).  There's a claim that some men become sodomites when they go to prison due to lack of women around, and you occasionally hear of some sick individuals doing perverse things with farm animals (where there are no women around) ... but priests are SURROUNDED by women, many of whom don't like their husbands, and seek them out for consolation, and would latch onto a priest who gave them attention.

No, the problem is that sodomites are attracted to the priesthood because it gives the access to boys.  So it's completely the opposite of what they claim.

Serious Catholic men who have had some seminary formation ... like Matthew ... would be at the top of my list.  There are probably former semnarians in every metropolitan area.  I believe that's why Bishop Slupski, for instance, reportedly ordained a married man.  He grew up behind the Iron Curtain, and so he clearly sees where we're headed.  I know that people excoriated Bishop Slupski for this (someone started a thread here saying that Bishop Slupski offered to ordained him a priest even though he was married), but I see where he's coming from.  We got a foretaste of this with the COVID lockdowns where the churches were closed.  People were dying without access to priests.  I know that people don't really believe that, but 10 years ago I would not have believed that the COVID lockdowns were possible.

Just to clarify --

It was me that started that thread.

I would stop well short of condemning Bp. Slupski. He certainly did what he did "for the Church" from what I can tell. Other than some objectively poor judgments (going by how the situation played out, in hindsight) with particular men he ordained, that's all I can point to for criticism. The fact is, he was a faithful priest/bishop to the end, preaching the true Faith and criticized the Novus Ordo/new religion, JP2 (a fellow Pole, of about the same generation), the Indult, Communism, and other modern errors. He was never involved in any scandals. He lived a VERY simple life, driving constantly, going on low sleep. He told Tom Nelson he couldn't sit down or close his eyes, or he'd fall asleep. If he kept going, and stayed on his feet, he was OK.

How many Trad priests even today are willing to do the "missionary" thing, being on the road *most* of Sunday? Bp. Slupski would go to 4-5 locations on Sunday. He labored hard, and I never saw him take any luxuries (wine, food, money) or other earthly consolations. He was a true religious missionary priest.

He served my area from about 1979 until the early 2000's. At some point he retired, but he was very old. He was ordained in 1961.

I would say that even if he had the right idea, he just de-facto didn't happen to have any suitable candidates.

There are many good things that clearly aren't God's will without a suitable candidate. Marriage, for example. Marriage is good. But if God sends you no one even *close* to suitable, that's one sign you're not meant to be married, at least not yet.

That is quite true. However, it is an unfortunate thing for women, whether married or single, that genuinely need actual spiritual direction. This can even lead good women to be their own “director” in spirituality that to approach a good priest and ask for some advice. But to become one’s own “director”… it could be said puts a danger to our soul. I prefer speaking to a priest who is at least fifteen years into his life as a priest, if not twenty…thirty years in. As women, we’re not here to seduce anyone. We have souls, too. 

What a sorrow it is to be a woman. Even St. Teresa of Avila searched and searched for a confessor when she lost the last one. Some priests couldn’t even handle being her confessor due to her advancement. 

Let them get married, that'll solve everything!

https://apnews.com/article/baptist-religion-sɛҳuąƖ-abuse-by-clergy-southern-convention-bfdbe64389790630488f854c3dae3fd5


Report: Top Southern Baptists stonewalled sex abuse victims
By DEEPA BHARATH, HOLLY MEYER and DAVID CRARYMay 23, 2022




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FILE - This Wednesday, Dec. 7, 2011 file photo shows the headquarters of the Southern Baptist Convention in Nashville, Tenn. Leaders of the SBC, America's largest Protestant denomination, stonewalled and denigrated survivors of clergy sex abuse over almost two decades while seeking to protect their own reputations, according to a scathing 288-page investigative report issued Sunday, May 22, 2022. (AP Photo/Mark Humphrey, File)

The Southern Baptist Convention’s Executive Committee — and thousands of its rank-and-file members — now have opportunities to address a scathing investigative report that says top SBC leaders stonewalled and denigrated survivors of clergy sex abuse over two decades while seeking to protect their own reputations.
The report, issued Sunday, says these survivors, and other concerned Southern Baptists, repeatedly shared allegations with the Executive Committee, “only to be met, time and time again, with resistance, stonewalling, and even outright hostility from some within the EC.”
The seven-month investigation was conducted by Guidepost Solutions, an independent firm contracted by the Executive Committee after delegates to last year’s national meeting pressed for a probe by outsiders.
Since then, several top Executive Committee leaders have resigned, and the body — under interim leadership — will meet Tuesday to discuss the report. Three weeks later, the SBC will convene its 2022 national meeting in Anaheim, California, and the report will be discussed there as well.

“Our investigation revealed that, for many years, a few senior EC leaders, along with outside counsel, largely controlled the EC’s response to these reports of abuse ... and were singularly focused on avoiding liability for the SBC,” the report said.
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“In service of this goal, survivors and others who reported abuse were ignored, disbelieved, or met with the constant refrain that the SBC could take no action due to its polity regarding church autonomy – even if it meant that convicted molesters continued in ministry with no notice or warning to their current church or congregation,” the report added.
The report asserts that an Executive Committee staffer maintained a list of Baptist ministers accused of abuse, but there is no indication anyone “took any action to ensure that the accused ministers were no longer in positions of power at SBC churches.”
The most recent list includes the names of hundreds of abusers thought to be affiliated at some point with the SBC. Survivors and advocates have long called for a public database of abusers.
SBC President Ed Litton, in a statement Sunday, said he is “grieved to my core” for the victims and thanked God for their work propelling the SBC to this moment. He called on Southern Baptists to lament and prepare to change the denomination’s culture and implement reforms.
“I pray Southern Baptists will begin preparing today to take deliberate action to address these failures and chart a new course when we meet together in Anaheim,” Litton said.
Among the report’s key recommendations:
— Form an independent commission and later establish a permanent administrative entity to oversee comprehensive long-term reforms concerning sɛҳuąƖ abuse and related misconduct within the SBC.
—Create and maintain an Offender Information System to alert the community to known offenders.
— Provide a comprehensive Resource Toolbox including protocols, training, education, and practical information.
—Restrict the use of nondisclosure agreements and civil settlements which bind survivors to confidentiality in sɛҳuąƖ abuse matters, unless requested by the survivor.
The interim leaders of the Executive Committee, Willie McLaurin and Rolland Slade, welcomed the recommendations, and pledged an all-out effort to eliminate sex abuse within the SBC.
“We recognize there are no shortcuts,” they said. “We must all meet this challenge through prudent and prayerful application, and we must do so with Christ-like compassion.”
The sex abuse scandal was thrust into the spotlight in 2019 by a landmark report from the Houston Chronicle and San Antonio Express-News docuмenting hundreds of cases in Southern Baptist churches, including several in which alleged perpetrators remained in ministry.
Last year, thousands of delegates at the national SBC gathering made clear they did not want the Executive Committee to oversee an investigation of its own actions. Instead they voted overwhelmingly to create the task force charged with overseeing the third-party review. Litton, pastor of Redemption Church in Saraland, Alabama, appointed the panel.
The task force had a week to review the report before it was publicly released. The task force’s recommendations based on Guidepost’s findings will be presented at the SBC’s meeting in Anaheim.

The report offers shocking details on how Johnny Hunt, a Georgia-based pastor and past SBC president, sɛҳuąƖly assaulted another pastor’s wife during a beach vacation in 2010. In an interview with investigators, Hunt denied any physical contact with the woman, but did admit he had interactions with her.
On May 13, Hunt, who was the senior vice president of evangelism and leadership at the North American Mission Board, the SBC’s domestic missions agency, resigned from that post, said Kevin Ezell, the organization’s president and CEO. Ezell said, before May 13, he was “not aware of any alleged misconduct” on Hunt’s part.
The report details a meeting Hunt arranged a few days after the alleged assault between the woman, her husband, Hunt and a counseling pastor. According to the report, Hunt admitted to touching the victim inappropriately, but said “thank God I didn’t consummate the relationship.”
In a statement Sunday, Hunt disputed the report.
“I vigorously deny the circuмstances and characterizations set forth in the Guidepost report,” he said. “I have never abused anybody.”
Among those reacting strongly to the Guidepost report was Russell Moore, who formerly headed the SBC’s public policy wing but left the denomination after accusing top Executive Committee leaders of stalling efforts to address the sex abuse crisis.
“Crisis is too small a word. It is an apocalypse,” Moore wrote for Christianity Today after reading the report. ”As dark a view as I had of the SBC Executive Committee, the investigation uncovers a reality far more evil and systemic than I imagined it could be.”
According to the report, Guidepost’s investigators, who spoke with survivors of varying ages including children, said the survivors were equally traumatized by the way in which churches responded to their reports of sɛҳuąƖ abuse.
Survivors “spoke of trauma from the initial abuse, but also told us of the debilitating effects that come from the response of the churches and institutions like the SBC that did not believe them, ignored them, mistreated them, and failed to help them,” the report said.
It cited the case of Dave Pittman, who from 2006 to 2011 made phone calls and sent letters and emails to the SBC and Georgia Baptist Convention Board reporting that he had been abused by Frankie Wiley, a youth pastor at Rehoboth Baptist Church when he was 12 to 15 years old.
Pittman and several others have come forward publicly to report that Wiley molested and raped them and Wiley has admitted to abusing “numerous victims” at several Georgia Southern Baptist churches.

According to the report, a Georgia Baptist Convention official told Pittman that the churches were autonomous and there was nothing he could do but pray.
The report also tells the story of Christa Brown, who says she was sɛҳuąƖly abused as a teen by the youth and education minister at her SBC church.
When she disclosed the abuse to the music minister after months of abuse, she was told not to talk about it, according to the report, which said her abuser also went on to serve in Southern Baptist churches in multiple states.
Brown, who has been one of the most outspoken survivors, told investigators that during the past 15 years she has received “volumes of hate mail, awful blog comments, and vitriolic phone calls.”
After reading through the report, Brown told The Associated Press that it “fundamentally confirms what Southern Baptist clergy sex abuse survivors have been saying for decades.”
“I view this investigative report as a beginning, not an end. The work will continue,” Brown said. “But no one should ever forget the human cost of what it has taken to even get the SBC to approach this starting line of beginning to deal with clergy sex abuse.”
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Report: Top Southern Baptists stonewalled sex abuse victims
By DEEPA BHARATH, HOLLY MEYER and DAVID CRARYMay 23, 2022

Stats demonstrate that there's every bit as much of this stuff among Prots, Jєωs, and Muslims.  But there's a deliberate smear campaign against the reputation of the Catholic Church by the Satanic media, which could hardly care less about the Prots (since they are already Satan's and doing Satan's work).  They focus on only the Catholic Church.  Satanists don't steal communion bread from Prot churches for their black rituals.  Satanists have more faith that the Catholic Church is the true Church founded by Christ than 99% of Novus Ordites.  They are hell bent on reviling, blaspheming, and destroying the Catholic Church.  Prots glom onto the bandwagon of equating the Catholic priesthood with pedophilia ... because they hate the Church and take pleasure in being able to use some propaganda to make themselves feel justified about their heresy.

Stats demonstrate that there's every bit as much of this stuff among Prots, Jєωs, and Muslims.  But there's a deliberate smear campaign against the reputation of the Catholic Church by the Satanic media, which could hardly care less about the Prots (since they are already Satan's and doing Satan's work).  They focus on only the Catholic Church.  Satanists don't steal communion bread from Prot churches for their black rituals.  Satanists have more faith that the Catholic Church is the true Church founded by Christ than 99% of Novus Ordites.  They are hell bent on reviling, blaspheming, and destroying the Catholic Church.  Prots glom onto the bandwagon of equating the Catholic priesthood with pedophilia ... because they hate the Church and take pleasure in being able to use some propaganda to make themselves feel justified about their heresy.

Something I like to bring up when I hear people harping about pedophile priests:

Public School Teachers 100 Times More Likely To Abuse Kids Than Catholic Priests
By Jessica Marie Baumgartner | 2 months ago


As sɛҳuąƖ abuse by teachers continues to rise, parents and students grow more concerned about the health and well-being of their families. The public education system has embraced grooming techniques that normalize sɛҳuąƖ behavior and sɛҳuąƖity in children as young as pre-school. Middle schoolers are now avidly taught about masturbation in class, while pornographic books remain in some public schools for the sake of “diversity & inclusion.” It’s enough to make anyone wonder if this material is truly appropriate for children, and whether public schools are working to educate based on the best interests of the children. And now, it has been confirmed that public school teachers are 100 times more likely to abuse kids than Catholic priests. 

According to the Dept. of Ed, public school teachers sɛҳuąƖly abuse children at a scale more than 100 times greater than Catholic priests. Parents are concerned that predators—of any sɛҳuąƖ orientation—could use classroom sɛҳuąƖization as a method of recruiting victims.
— Christopher F. Rufo ⚔️ (@realchrisrufo) March 23, 2022

In truth, this comparison is based on an aged 2004 report from the Department of Education, and as child sɛҳuąƖ abuse in schools has reportedly increased since these findings were released, one may conclude that the incidence is even more likely. In 2011 Texas recorded that teacher sɛҳuąƖ misconduct cases went up 27%. In Alabama complaints and investigations tripled. By 2019 the Arizona Department of Education’s investigative unit chief pleaded with the Governor’s Victims of Child Sex Abuse task force claiming that his team is “drowning” in cases. 
Many have noted that easy access to students’ personal lives has perpetuated this, thanks to social media and constant internet use. In 2020 The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children reported the highest number of suspected child sɛҳuąƖ exploitation tips through their CyberTipline. The debate over whether minors should be allowed on social media at all has continued on for years, but despite these dangers, many individuals — students and parents included — often vilify Catholic priests when discussing the sensitive subject of pedophilia and child sɛҳuąƖ abuse while completely ignoring the ongoing child sɛҳuąƖ abuse convictions against public school staff. 
The Catholic church has suffered for its lack of transparency and refusal to take full action against priests who harm children. It is common rhetoric to declare that Catholicism is full of pedophiles, and it is true that there have been some shockingly horrific cases, but if parents are going to protect their children they must guide them to beware all dangers, and they are far more likely to experience sɛҳuąƖ abuse from a teacher or other school staff member than by a Catholic priest. So why is the public not decrying teachers as pedophiles? 

Considering this, 10% (roughly 4.5 million children) of public school students have experienced some form of sɛҳuąƖ misconduct by the time they graduate high school, yet of the 77.4 million Catholics in the United States, .01% reported claims of child sɛҳuąƖ abuse (10,667 children). It has also been studied and concluded that about 4.4% of all clerics were known to sɛҳuąƖly abuse children between 1946 and 2014, yet it is estimated that roughly 5% of men are pedophiles and those numbers do not even take into account the incidence of female sɛҳuąƖ predators at all. These numbers make a harsh case against public school employees.
In truth, child sɛҳuąƖ abuse is a serious issue no matter who commits it, but as many admit, “prevention is key.” The best way to prevent child sɛҳuąƖ abuse is by protecting children from predators and teaching them to protect themselves. Knowing that public school teachers are far more likely to sɛҳuąƖly abuse students, parents must ask themselves, once again, is the public education system is really worth the risk? 

When, not if, the Conciliar sect begins letting priests marry--most of the ones who do are going to marry each other.

Women's ordination will probably come around the same time.