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Muslim Decapitations Official Teaching?
« on: May 17, 2022, 11:54:23 AM »
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  • It seems this is their preferred method of execution.  Does anyone know if it has some official basis in their religion?
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."


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    Re: Muslim Decapitations Official Teaching?
    « Reply #1 on: May 17, 2022, 12:05:41 PM »
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  • It seems this is their preferred method of execution.  Does anyone know if it has some official basis in their religion?
    Depends upon which version of the quran:

    Sura 47 [Muhammad]:3 says “When you encounter the unbelievers on the battlefield, strike off their heads until you have crushed them completely; then bind the [surviving] prisoners tightly.”

    Sura 8 [al-Anfal]:12 states “I will cast dread into the hearts of the unbelievers. Strike off their heads, then, and strike off all of their fingertips.”

    Surah:
    "When the Lord inspired the angels (saying) I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger." (8:12)

    "Now when ye meet in battle those who disbelieve, then it is smiting of the necks until, when ye have routed them, making fast of bonds; and afterward either grace or ransom 'til the war lay down its burdens." (47:4)


    More history about it here:
    https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/1207


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    Re: Muslim Decapitations Official Teaching?
    « Reply #2 on: May 17, 2022, 12:13:44 PM »
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  • From the quran, and which version:

    Sura 47 [Muhammad]:3 says “When you encounter the unbelievers on the battlefield, strike off their heads until you have crushed them completely; then bind the [surviving] prisoners tightly.”

    Sura 8 [al-Anfal]:12 states “I will cast dread into the hearts of the unbelievers. Strike off their heads, then, and strike off all of their fingertips.”

    Surah:
    "When the Lord inspired the angels (saying) I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger." (8:12)
    "Now when ye meet in battle those who disbelieve, then it is smiting of the necks until, when ye have routed them, making fast of bonds; and afterward either grace or ransom 'til the war lay down its burdens." (47:4)


    More history about it here:
    https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/1207
    Thanks Epiphany!

    The “religion of peace.”
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    Re: Muslim Decapitations Official Teaching?
    « Reply #3 on: May 17, 2022, 12:13:57 PM »
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  • According to wiki:

    Currently, Saudi Arabia is the only country in the world which uses decapitation within its Islamic legal system.[11] The majority of executions carried out by the Wahhabi government of Saudi Arabia are public beheadings,[12][13] which usually cause mass gatherings but are not allowed to be photographed or filmed.[14]

    According to Amnesty, beheading have been carried out by state authorities in Iran as recently as 2001,[11][15][16] but as of 2014 is no longer in use.[15] It is also a legal form of execution in Qatar and Yemen, but the punishment has been suspended in those countries.[11][17

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    Re: Muslim Decapitations Official Teaching?
    « Reply #4 on: May 17, 2022, 12:16:00 PM »
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  • Thanks Epiphany!

    The “religion of peace.”
    And polygamy and pedophilia (Muhammad had 12 wives at one time, one of whom was only 6 when he "wed" her.  He consummated the marriage when she was 9 and he was 49.)

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    Re: Muslim Decapitations Official Teaching?
    « Reply #5 on: May 17, 2022, 07:50:34 PM »
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  • Depends upon which version of the quran:

    Sura 47 [Muhammad]:3 says “When you encounter the unbelievers on the battlefield, strike off their heads until you have crushed them completely; then bind the [surviving] prisoners tightly.”

    Sura 8 [al-Anfal]:12 states “I will cast dread into the hearts of the unbelievers. Strike off their heads, then, and strike off all of their fingertips.”

    Surah:
    "When the Lord inspired the angels (saying) I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger." (8:12)

    "Now when ye meet in battle those who disbelieve, then it is smiting of the necks until, when ye have routed them, making fast of bonds; and afterward either grace or ransom 'til the war lay down its burdens." (47:4)


    More history about it here:
    https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/1207
    Two of these quotes talk of being in battle, and I suppose at the time the Sura was written, swords were the weapon of choice. So I guess beheading was all the go.

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    Re: Muslim Decapitations Official Teaching?
    « Reply #6 on: May 17, 2022, 09:16:52 PM »
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  • As a point of information, beheading was the preferred method of execution in France (abolished in 1981, the last beheading was in 1977).

    Beheading was the preferred method of execution in Germany.  The death penalty was abolished in West Germany in 1949, in the Saarland in 1956 and in East Germany in 1987.  The last use of the guillotine in East Germany was in 1966 and the last execution was in 1981, by gunshot I believe.

    Hanging seems to have been the preferred method of execution in Great Britian, though beheading was not uncommon in earlier times (ref. St. John Fisher and St. Thomas More).  England abolished the death penalty in 1998.

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    Re: Muslim Decapitations Official Teaching?
    « Reply #7 on: May 18, 2022, 01:10:30 AM »
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  • The Muslim religion, like the post-Christian Jєωιѕн religion, Protestant religion, Hindu, Buddhist, whatever, all except for the Catholic religion, have no “official teachings.”  Lacking a true Head on earth, a Pope, they are all split into various factions sharing general principles, but nothing and no One to unify them.  Protestants will claim the Bible contains the Official Teachings, but look at how many different interpretations of Scripture there are, to the point where one can find two “Christian” churches side by side that bear no resemblance to one another in belief, practice, worship. 
    There is no Muslim official teaching on decapitation. Quoting the Koran is as useless as Protestants quoting the Bible.  There is no One Representative of Allah or of Christ on earth for either religion.  They also lack a proper hierarchy or Magisterium, a unified teaching body.
    If you plan to have a Rosary Rally in downtown Kabul, you should give away your hats, wigs, combs, brushes, hair clips, etc.
    If you have a Rosary Rally in New York across Third Ave. on the corner of 98 St. the folks from the Islamic Cultural Center won’t like it.  They may give you dirty looks, some old codgers may throw their sandals at you and spit on the ground as they go past, but the police will probably shut down your rally for lacking a permit before anyone loses his head. 
    It would seem on the surface that Catholics are in the same position, no official policies on anything, yet, that is not the case.  We may have a spiritually decapitated Vicar in the Chair, and an earthly Magisterium more concerned with redesigning the Church than upholding Her, but the Scripture, the Traditions, the teachings, dogmas, morals, and practices of over 2000 years are more available to more Catholics via modern technology than at any other time in Christian history.  The Catholic Faith is the One, True Faith, and therefore, the only Religion to have Official Teachings. 


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    Re: Muslim Decapitations Official Teaching?
    « Reply #8 on: May 18, 2022, 03:36:43 AM »
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  • The тαℓмυdists and their noahide golem creature...Islam



    Moslems are the fulfillment of the seven Noahide Laws!

    Islamists are a golem being used by the kabbalist magicians to destroy those who will not submit to the Noahide laws.  Not much has changed since the Battle of Lepanto ( 7 October 1571) or for that matter Our Lord’s Crucifixion!


    See full article:

    http://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2016/04/the-тαℓмυdists-and-their-noahide-golem.html



    Rabbi:  Islam is the Broom of Israel
    34 seconds
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/VeN4ymURydgs/
    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    Re: Muslim Decapitations Official Teaching?
    « Reply #9 on: May 18, 2022, 06:24:01 AM »
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  • The Muslim religion, like the post-Christian Jєωιѕн religion, Protestant religion, Hindu, Buddhist, whatever, all except for the Catholic religion, have no “official teachings.” 
    Seraphina, what is this post-Christian Jєωιѕн religion? why do you call it post Christian? What do you mean by that?
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
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    Re: Muslim Decapitations Official Teaching?
    « Reply #10 on: May 18, 2022, 01:35:14 PM »
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  • Seraphina, what is this post-Christian Jєωιѕн religion? why do you call it post Christian? What do you mean by that?
    The Jєωs possessed the One True Faith up until the time of the murder of their Messiah.  Since that time, what is called the Jєωιѕн religion is NOT the religion approved by God.  In fact, it’s impossible to practice true, Biblical Judaism.  There is no Temple, no One High Priest, no one hierarchy or teaching body. After the destruction of the Temple, the Jєωs scattered and divided into all manner of factions, mixed themselves in with pagans, invented their own interpretations of Scripture, known now as the тαℓмυd.  There are endless disagreements within the тαℓмυd itself. Different factions of Jєωs adhere to certain books of the тαℓмυd, others reject them.  IOW, there exists no One Jєωιѕн religion since the time of Christ. There is no One Protestant religion, no One Muslim religion.  The only One religion in existence is the Catholic religion.


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    Re: Muslim Decapitations Official Teaching?
    « Reply #11 on: May 18, 2022, 04:25:40 PM »
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  • The Jєωs possessed the One True Faith up until the time of the murder of their Messiah.  Since that time, what is called the Jєωιѕн religion is NOT the religion approved by God.  In fact, it’s impossible to practice true, Biblical Judaism.  There is no Temple, no One High Priest, no one hierarchy or teaching body. After the destruction of the Temple, the Jєωs scattered and divided into all manner of factions, mixed themselves in with pagans, invented their own interpretations of Scripture, known now as the тαℓмυd.  There are endless disagreements within the тαℓмυd itself. Different factions of Jєωs adhere to certain books of the тαℓмυd, others reject them.  IOW, there exists no One Jєωιѕн religion since the time of Christ. There is no One Protestant religion, no One Muslim religion.  The only One religion in existence is the Catholic religion.
    Thank you Seraphina. But the Jєωιѕн religion of today predates Jesus, as we see in the Gospels where the traditions of the elders, the traditions of men are condemned by Jesus. 
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    Re: Muslim Decapitations Official Teaching?
    « Reply #12 on: May 18, 2022, 05:15:34 PM »
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  • The timeline…

    “This is not an uncommon impression and one finds it sometimes among Jєωs as well as Christians - that Judaism is the religion of the Hebrew Bible. It is, of course, a fallacious impression. Judaism is not the religion of the Bible.”
    Rabbi Ben Zion Bokser, Judaism and the Christian Predicament, New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1967, p.59, 159
     
    “The Jєωιѕн religion as it is today traces its descent, without a break, through all the centuries, from the Pharisees. Their leading ideas and methods found expression in a literature of enormous extent, of which a very great deal is still in existence. The тαℓмυd is the largest and most important single member of that literature, and round it are gathered a number of Midrashim, partly legal (Halachic) and partly works of edification (Haggadic). This literature, in its oldest elements, goes back to a time before the beginning of the Common Era, and comes down into the Middle Ages. Through it all run the lines of thought which were first drawn by the Pharisees, and the study of it is essential for any real understanding of Pharisaism.”
    Universal Jєωιѕн Encyclopedia, Vol. 3 pg. 474
     
    “Pharisaism became тαℓмυdism, тαℓмυdism became Medieval Rabbinism, and Medieval Rabbinism became Modern Rabbinism. But throughout these changes of name, inevitable adaptation of custom, and adjustment of Law, the spirit of the ancient Pharisee survives unaltered.”
    Rabbi Dr. Finkelstein, The Pharisees: The Sociological Background of Their Faith, The Jєωιѕн Publication Society of America (1946) p. xxi
     
    “The тαℓмυd is the written form of that which in the time of Jesus, was called the ‘Tradition of the Elders,’ and to which He makes frequent allusions.” *
    Michael L. Rodkinson, The History of the тαℓмυd: From The Time Of Its Formation About 200 B. C. Up To The Present Time, Kessinger Publishing, LLC (June 8, 2006), ISBN-13: 978-1428631366, p.70
    * “Allusions”? Yes, Jesus damned those man-made traditions for voiding the commandment of God. Mark 7:8-9
     
    “The complex of rabbinically ordained practices ... including most of the rules for the treatment of Scripture itself--do not derive from Scripture at all. Rabbinic Judaism’s initial concern was with the elaboration and refinement of it’s own system. Attaching the system to scripture was secondary. It therefore is misleading to depict rabbinic Judaism primarily as a consequence of an exegetical process or the organic unfolding of Scripture. Rather, rabbinic Judaism began as the work of a small, ambitious, and homogeneous group of pseudo-priests ...By the third century (A.D.) the rabbis expressed their self-conception in the ideology of “Oral Torah” which held that a comprehensive body of teachings and practices (halachot) not included in Scripture had been given by God and through Moses only to the rabbinic establishment.”
    Rabbi Jacob Nuesner, Rabbinic Judaism: Structure and System, pp. 31-34
     
     
    “On the surface, Scripture plays little role in the Mishanaic system, The Mishnah [of the тαℓмυd] rarely cites a verse of Scripture, refers to Scripture as an entity, links its own ideas to those of Scripture, or lays claim to originate in what Scripture has said, even by indirect or remote allusion to a Scriptural verse of teaching... Formally, redactionally, and linguistically the Mishnah stands in splendid isolation from Scripture....the Mishnah constitutes Torah. It too is a statement of revelation, ‘Torah revealed to Moses at Sinai.’ But this part of revelation has come down in a form different from the well-known, written part, the Scripture. This tradition truly deserves the name ‘tradition,’ because for a long time it was handed down orally, not in writing, until given the written formulation now before us in the Mishnah.... Since some of the named authorities in the chain of tradition appear throughout the materials of the Mishnah, the claim is that what these people say comes to them from Sinai through the processes of qabbalah and massoret --handing down ‘traditioning.’ So the reason... that the Mishnah does not cite Scripture is that it does not have to.”
    Rabbi Jacob Neusner, The Mishnah: A New Translation. New Haven CT: Yale University Press, 1988. pp. xxxv-xxxvi.
     
    Note the casual admission that both “qabbalah and massoret [the vaunted, but bowdlerized, ‘Hebrew Bible’]” change Scripture through “process,” “traditioning.” In Judaism tradition is not fixed or faithful, but is an ever-changing “process” that is described as “traditioning.” This is why “the latest Responsa and homiletical interpretations of the rabbis” are Torah, hence authoritative in Judaism. Thus, the rabbis “bury Moses” and “defeat God.”
     
    Indeed all this oral “traditioning” is precisely what Jesus fingered as “make void the commandments of God for the traditions of men.” (Mark 7:9). Since the rabbis are free to “alter even the very content of Mosaic revelation” with impunity, we begin to understand why Jesus said, “there is one that accuseth you, Moses” (John 5:45-47).…


    https://judaism.is/torah.html



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    Re: Muslim Decapitations Official Teaching?
    « Reply #13 on: May 18, 2022, 05:18:45 PM »
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  • The JMF version: https://judaism.is/noahide-deceit.html#beheading

    worshiping Jesus Christ is “idolatry” punished by beheading

    Catholics certainly and even most Protestants worship Jesus Christ as True God and True Man, Second Person of the Holy Trinity and, just as in Islam, Judaism considers this blasphemy, idolatry, avodah zorah, for which the penalty is death by beheading.





    In case you missed that, let me say again, Judaism considers the worship of Jesus Christ as True God and True Man, as Second Person of the Holy Trinity, to be blasphemy, idolatry, avodah zarah, for which the penalty is death by beheading.






    The Jєωιѕн Encyclopedia affirms that the punishment for Christian “idolatry” is beheading.
    “With but a few exceptions, the punishment meted out to a Noachid for the transgression of any of the seven laws is decapitation…” without “formalities.”





    “Laws, Noachian,” Jєωιѕн Encyclopedia entry (1916), Volume 7, pp. 648-650.

    Jєω preaching about “J.C.”
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    Jєω preaching about killing Christians

     

     

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    In тαℓмυd Unmasked, Fr. Pranaitis discusses many of the тαℓмυdic code words used for Christians: “Abhodah Zarah, Akum, Obhde Elilim, Minim, Edom, Goy, Nokhrim, Basar Vedam, Apikorosim, Kuthim.”

    http://тαℓмυdunmasked.com/chapter7.htm Be alert for these code words since these names are not merely insulting, but under halakha (Jєωιѕн law, the Jєωιѕн version of Islamic sharia) have great implication for Christians, even as noted above, condemning Christians to execution by beheading.

     

    June 1, 2015, Claiming that Christians are idolaters, Jєωs block Christians from entering the site of the Last Supper

    “Michael Hoffman’s Afterword: In тαℓмυdic (“Orthodox” and “Haredi”) Judaism the worship of Jesus Christ as the Son of God is regarded as idol worship, not just the “icons and effigies” associated with Him. These same Judaic persons who object to Greek-Christian icons venerate photos and drawings of rabbinic “sages” and often wear magical amulets designed by pagan Kabbalists who worship the goddess Shekhinah and wave a Kapporat chicken over their heads in order to transfer their sins into the bird. Who are the actual pagans, the followers of the traditions of the men who were the ancient Pharisees, or the disciples of the Gospel of Jesus Christ?”



     

    If they really believe it is the tomb of King David, why are they urinating on the site almost every day?

    December 16, 2009 More anti-Christian death threats and almost

    daily urinations at the Cenacle, sacred site of the Last Supper