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Re: Msgr. Vigano's Shotgun Blast
« Reply #40 on: October 21, 2022, 01:29:09 PM »
The link you provided only shows that one example, claiming it is Jesus and provides many links to coins with the Roman sun god Sol Invictus and Apollo.

I can't find any other depictions of Jesus as the Sol Invictus.

There seems to be dispute over whether that depiction in the tomb is of Jesus or of Helios, the Roman Sun God also known as Apollo or Mithras and more.



The popularly named "Tomb of the Julii" (Mausoleum "M") survives in the Vatican Necropolis beneath St. Peter's Basilica. The serendipitous discovery near the crypt has a vaulted ceiling bearing a mosaic depicting Helios (Roman Sol Invictus) with an aureole riding in his chariot, within a framing of rinceaux of vine leaves. The mosaic is dated to the late 3rd century to early 4th century. Other mosaics in this tomb depicting Jonah and the whale, the good shepherd carrying a lamb (the kriophoros motif), and fishermen have encouraged its interpretation as a Christian tomb.

This tomb was first discovered in 1574 AD when workmen accidentally broke through the ceiling while conducting some floor alterations in the basilica. The inside was briefly explored and docuмented before the opening was sealed over once more.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomb_of_the_Julii

And here
The charioteer in the mosaic of Mausoleum M has been interpreted by some as Christ. Clement of Alexandria had spoken of Christ driving his chariot across the sky.[54] This interpretation is doubted by others: "Only the cross-shaped nimbus makes the Christian significance apparent",[55] and the figure is seen by some simply as a representation of the Sun with no explicit religious reference whatever, pagan or Christian.[56][11]: 567–578 

For more the Cult of Sol Invictus see the rest of this article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sol_Invictus



So it appears that St Clement spoke of Christ and His chariot in the sky, but that is different from calling Jesus the Sol Invictus.

It's also different from depicting Jesus as the center of the Heliocentric model with earth revolving around the sun and the earth spinning on the axis of the cross.

I've never heard of that before.  Have you?

Do you know of any saints or Church Fathers or popes that call Jesus the Sol Invictus? 

Do you know of any who have depicted Jesus as the heliocentric sun with the earth rotating around him and spinning on the cross?

Is that found in Tradition?


Anyway, the contemporary understanding of Sol Invictus seems to be that he is Lucifer:



THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST

In Luciferian circles,. Lucifer is the Sol Invictus, in direct competition to the Son of GOD, Jesus. Christ. ~The Church Age. BABYLONIA. MEDO-PERSIA. GRECIA.


Wishing Lucifer/Sol Invictus a happy Birthday on this ... - Reddit
Dec 21, 2021 — The world has been covered in darkness but starting today, we will see the return of Sol Invictus, Lucifer, the Bringer of Light, ...
How to celebrate Sol Invictus? : r/SatanicTemple_Reddit
Oct 31, 2021
Sol invictus? : r/SatanicTemple_Reddit
Nov 30, 2020
Lucifer and Sol Invictus : r/LuciferianWitchcraft - Reddit
Nov 27, 2019
Happy Sol Invictus! : r/Satan - Reddit
Dec 23, 2021
More results from www.reddit.com



Sorry, the formatting was wonky so I'm reposting:




The link you provided only shows that one example, claiming it is Jesus and provides many links to coins with the Roman sun god Sol Invictus and Apollo.

I can't find any other depictions of Jesus as the Sol Invictus.

There seems to be dispute over whether that depiction in the tomb is of Jesus or of Helios, the Roman Sun God also known as Apollo or Mithras and more.



The popularly named "Tomb of the Julii" (Mausoleum "M") survives in the Vatican Necropolis beneath St. Peter's Basilica. The serendipitous discovery near the crypt has a vaulted ceiling bearing a mosaic depicting Helios (Roman Sol Invictus) with an aureole riding in his chariot, within a framing of rinceaux of vine leaves. The mosaic is dated to the late 3rd century to early 4th century. Other mosaics in this tomb depicting Jonah and the whale, the good shepherd carrying a lamb (the kriophoros motif), and fishermen have encouraged its interpretation as a Christian tomb.

This tomb was first discovered in 1574 AD when workmen accidentally broke through the ceiling while conducting some floor alterations in the basilica. The inside was briefly explored and docuмented before the opening was sealed over once more.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomb_of_the_Julii

And here
The charioteer in the mosaic of Mausoleum M has been interpreted by some as Christ. Clement of Alexandria had spoken of Christ driving his chariot across the sky.[54] This interpretation is doubted by others: "Only the cross-shaped nimbus makes the Christian significance apparent",[55] and the figure is seen by some simply as a representation of the Sun with no explicit religious reference whatever, pagan or Christian.[56][11]: 567–578 

For more the Cult of Sol Invictus see the rest of this article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sol_Invictus



So it appears that St Clement spoke of Christ and His chariot in the sky, but that is different from calling Jesus the Sol Invictus.


It's also different from depicting Jesus as Vigano does as the center of the Heliocentric model with earth revolving around the sun and the earth spinning on the axis of the cross.

Here is his quote again:


Quote
"we must see in that shining sun the unconquered Sun, Our Lord Jesus Christ, center of the cosmos created by Him omnia per ipsum facta sunt, et sine ipso factum est nihil quod factum est (Jn 1:3), and even more the center of the Redemption that sets the axis of the Earth to rotate around the Cross: stat Crux, dum volvitur orbis."


I've never heard of that before.  Have you?

Do you know of any saints or Church Fathers or popes that call Jesus the Sol Invictus? 

Do you know of any who have depicted Jesus as the heliocentric sun with the earth rotating around him and spinning on the cross?

Is that found in Tradition?


Anyway, the contemporary understanding of Sol Invictus seems to be that he is Lucifer:




THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST
nebula.wsimg.com
In Luciferian circles,. Lucifer is the Sol Invictus, in direct competition to the Son of GOD, Jesus. Christ. ~The Church Age. BABYLONIA. MEDO-PERSIA. GRECIA.


Wishing Lucifer/Sol Invictus a happy Birthday on this ... - Reddit
Dec 21, 2021 — The world has been covered in darkness but starting today, we will see the return of Sol Invictus, Lucifer, the Bringer of Light, ...
How to celebrate Sol Invictus? : r/SatanicTemple_Reddit
Oct 31, 2021
Sol invictus? : r/SatanicTemple_Reddit
Nov 30, 2020
Lucifer and Sol Invictus : r/LuciferianWitchcraft - Reddit
Nov 27, 2019
Happy Sol Invictus! : r/Satan - Reddit
Dec 23, 2021
More results from www.reddit.com


Re: Msgr. Vigano's Shotgun Blast
« Reply #41 on: October 21, 2022, 01:46:14 PM »
Sorry, the formatting was wonky so I'm reposting:




The link you provided only shows that one example, claiming it is Jesus and provides many links to coins with the Roman sun god Sol Invictus and Apollo.

I can't find any other depictions of Jesus as the Sol Invictus.

There seems to be dispute over whether that depiction in the tomb is of Jesus or of Helios, the Roman Sun God also known as Apollo or Mithras and more.



The popularly named "Tomb of the Julii" (Mausoleum "M") survives in the Vatican Necropolis beneath St. Peter's Basilica. The serendipitous discovery near the crypt has a vaulted ceiling bearing a mosaic depicting Helios (Roman Sol Invictus) with an aureole riding in his chariot, within a framing of rinceaux of vine leaves. The mosaic is dated to the late 3rd century to early 4th century. Other mosaics in this tomb depicting Jonah and the whale, the good shepherd carrying a lamb (the kriophoros motif), and fishermen have encouraged its interpretation as a Christian tomb.

This tomb was first discovered in 1574 AD when workmen accidentally broke through the ceiling while conducting some floor alterations in the basilica. The inside was briefly explored and docuмented before the opening was sealed over once more.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomb_of_the_Julii

And here
The charioteer in the mosaic of Mausoleum M has been interpreted by some as Christ. Clement of Alexandria had spoken of Christ driving his chariot across the sky.[54] This interpretation is doubted by others: "Only the cross-shaped nimbus makes the Christian significance apparent",[55] and the figure is seen by some simply as a representation of the Sun with no explicit religious reference whatever, pagan or Christian.[56][11]: 567–578 

For more the Cult of Sol Invictus see the rest of this article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sol_Invictus



So it appears that St Clement spoke of Christ and His chariot in the sky, but that is different from calling Jesus the Sol Invictus.


It's also different from depicting Jesus as Vigano does as the center of the Heliocentric model with earth revolving around the sun and the earth spinning on the axis of the cross.

Here is his quote again:


I've never heard of that before.  Have you?

Do you know of any saints or Church Fathers or popes that call Jesus the Sol Invictus? 

Do you know of any who have depicted Jesus as the heliocentric sun with the earth rotating around him and spinning on the cross?

Is that found in Tradition?


Anyway, the contemporary understanding of Sol Invictus seems to be that he is Lucifer:




THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST
nebula.wsimg.com
In Luciferian circles,. Lucifer is the Sol Invictus, in direct competition to the Son of GOD, Jesus. Christ. ~The Church Age. BABYLONIA. MEDO-PERSIA. GRECIA.


Wishing Lucifer/Sol Invictus a happy Birthday on this ... - Reddit
Dec 21, 2021 — The world has been covered in darkness but starting today, we will see the return of Sol Invictus, Lucifer, the Bringer of Light, ...
How to celebrate Sol Invictus? : r/SatanicTemple_Reddit
Oct 31, 2021
Sol invictus? : r/SatanicTemple_Reddit
Nov 30, 2020
Lucifer and Sol Invictus : r/LuciferianWitchcraft - Reddit
Nov 27, 2019
Happy Sol Invictus! : r/Satan - Reddit
Dec 23, 2021
More results from www.reddit.com


The Carthusians' Motto is:

stat Crux, dum volvitur orbis."


And of course Mary replaced the pagan goddesses that pre-figured her and Christmas can be seen as a replacement for the celebration of the Sol Invictus.

Still, we don't call Mary by those pagan goddess names, and Christmas is not a celebration of Heliocentrism.


Re: Msgr. Vigano's Shotgun Blast
« Reply #42 on: November 09, 2022, 08:41:21 PM »
The link you provided only shows that one example, claiming it is Jesus and provides many links to coins with the Roman sun god Sol Invictus and Apollo.

I can't find any other depictions of Jesus as the Sol Invictus.

There seems to be dispute over whether that depiction in the tomb is of Jesus or of Helios, the Roman Sun God also known as Apollo or Mithras and more.



The popularly named "Tomb of the Julii" (Mausoleum "M") survives in the Vatican Necropolis beneath St. Peter's Basilica. The serendipitous discovery near the crypt has a vaulted ceiling bearing a mosaic depicting Helios (Roman Sol Invictus) with an aureole riding in his chariot, within a framing of rinceaux of vine leaves. The mosaic is dated to the late 3rd century to early 4th century. Other mosaics in this tomb depicting Jonah and the whale, the good shepherd carrying a lamb (the kriophoros motif), and fishermen have encouraged its interpretation as a Christian tomb.

This tomb was first discovered in 1574 AD when workmen accidentally broke through the ceiling while conducting some floor alterations in the basilica. The inside was briefly explored and docuмented before the opening was sealed over once more.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomb_of_the_Julii

And here
The charioteer in the mosaic of Mausoleum M has been interpreted by some as Christ. Clement of Alexandria had spoken of Christ driving his chariot across the sky.[54] This interpretation is doubted by others: "Only the cross-shaped nimbus makes the Christian significance apparent",[55] and the figure is seen by some simply as a representation of the Sun with no explicit religious reference whatever, pagan or Christian.[56][11]: 567–578 

For more the Cult of Sol Invictus see the rest of this article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sol_Invictus



So it appears that St Clement spoke of Christ and His chariot in the sky, but that is different from calling Jesus the Sol Invictus.

It's also different from depicting Jesus as the center of the Heliocentric model with earth revolving around the sun and the earth spinning on the axis of the cross.

I've never heard of that before.  Have you?

Do you know of any saints or Church Fathers or popes that call Jesus the Sol Invictus? 

Do you know of any who have depicted Jesus as the heliocentric sun with the earth rotating around him and spinning on the cross?

Is that found in Tradition?


Anyway, the contemporary understanding of Sol Invictus seems to be that he is Lucifer:



THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST

In Luciferian circles,. Lucifer is the Sol Invictus, in direct competition to the Son of GOD, Jesus. Christ. ~The Church Age. BABYLONIA. MEDO-PERSIA. GRECIA.


Wishing Lucifer/Sol Invictus a happy Birthday on this ... - Reddit
Dec 21, 2021 — The world has been covered in darkness but starting today, we will see the return of Sol Invictus, Lucifer, the Bringer of Light, ...
How to celebrate Sol Invictus? : r/SatanicTemple_Reddit
Oct 31, 2021
Sol invictus? : r/SatanicTemple_Reddit
Nov 30, 2020
Lucifer and Sol Invictus : r/LuciferianWitchcraft - Reddit
Nov 27, 2019
Happy Sol Invictus! : r/Satan - Reddit
Dec 23, 2021
More results from www.reddit.com




Why would Vigano reference Heliocentrism which the Church condemned?

Why would Vigano use such a loaded term as Sol Invictus?

Freemasons and those who practice Kabbalah

worship the sun god

Sol Invictus.

Luciferians celebrate Sol Invictus Day.

Freemasons even name lodges after him:






Grand Lodge of Royal Art Study

@mlsarGrandLodge

Grand Lodge: the bilingual lodge Sol Invictus, No 13 has two new members.
#Freemasons #FɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყToday #FreemasonFriday #Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ #freemasons #freemason #masoniclodges #masonic #masons #scottishrite #francmasoneria #masoneria






https://twitter.com/mlsargrandlodge/status/1057191457868693506

Re: Msgr. Vigano's Shotgun Blast
« Reply #43 on: November 10, 2022, 04:20:16 AM »
This!

Instead of looking for a hero on the world stage to bring us

"peace and security"

people should be in sackcloth and ashes right about now.
How do wear we sackcloth and ashes? 


Maybe this is to weed us out.  Maybe 4 years of Trump was an experiment about how far they could get and to arrest the “trouble makers”.  Many average people and leadership were arrested  for that staged event in DC. as a warning to the rest.  The republicans did nothing.  Department of communist injustice went after Americans but couldn’t go after communist looters, burners and rapists.  Then Trumps family turn on daddy Trump because ivanka Is WEF and west besties with satanic church young woman who wished them a happy new year. 






Re: Msgr. Vigano's Shotgun Blast
« Reply #44 on: November 10, 2022, 05:09:44 AM »
How do wear we sackcloth and ashes? 


Do penance. 

Pray for Freemasons and transgenders and Jews etc.

Do corporal and spiritual works of mercy.

Forget about elections and politics.

Think local.