"I disagree with +Vigano in his assessment of Trump." should suffice.

One could say similar things about other Traditional Catholics:
"I disagree with +Lefebvre on EENS."
"I disagree with +Williamson on Valtorta and Garabandal and his view of the NOM."
"I disagree with SSPV about withholding Communion from those who assist at CMRI Masses."

This degree of contempt and derision is completely unjustified and uncharitable.

Yes, that is possible.  It could be a problem with the English translation.

Perhaps you could also take it up with Our Blessed Mother for using the term "errors of Russia" without any mention of the Jєωs behind it.  She mentions or alludes to "Russia" many times without once using the word "Jєω".

Sure, +Vigano would persuade many people toward Traditional Catholicism by going off on a 5-paragraph rant about Jєωs in every speech and letter of his.  Those who are aware of the Jєω conspiracy don't need more than an oblique allusion to it.  Those who are not aware of it would be turned off by a "raving lunatic" spouting off about Jєωs.

Just wondering.  Have you guys every heard about this mysterious virtue called "prudence"?  Look it up.  It's generally considered the "mother" of all virtues, the one which weighs the pros and cons, and the consequences of each exercise of the other virtues.  Yet I'm sure that some of you clowns would consider it a virtue to get in some ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ's face and berate them constantly, "You filthy sodomite." ... as if that kind of behavior will cause you to win their conversion.  No, it only makes you feel superior in your own tiny minds.

One example comes from St. Thomas.  While it's a virtue to rebuke the sinner, St. Thomas holds that not only is it not obligatory IF someone in prudence judges that it would do no good, but it could even be a vice to rebuke someone IF prudence suggests that the rebuke would only cause them to become more hardened in their sin.  That is because the END or the GOAL of rebuking the sinner is to win their conversion.  So in some cases, the material act of rebuking the sinner actually militates against the true formal end of the act, thereby making it a vice against charity rather than a virtue, by accomplishing the exact opposite of the rationale for its being a virtue.

You guys are really terrible and won't accept any correction on this matter whatsover.  Take 5 seconds to think what would happen (clearly +Vigano did) if +Vigano was constantly spoutinig off about the "Jєωs".  Sure, you clowns would fist-bump each other and celebrate, but you already are "convinced" and it would be just preaching to the choir.  Now imagine you're a conservative Novus Ordite programmed by Jєω conditioning so that you would consider this Anti-Semitic.  You would be much less receptive to what he has to say about Vatican II, Modernist, Bergoglio, etc.  Is it more important for someone's salvation to believe that V2 and the NOM are bad (Traditional Catholicism good) or to believe that the Jєωs run the world?

Also, take 5 seconds to think what would have happened had +Vigano written a 10-paragraph condemation of Trump.  +Vigano is a good judge of character, and he realizes that Trump has a yuge (yet fragile) ego and that any such criticism would simply cause Trump to lash out and dig his heels in, whereas the flattery (with carefully-chosen words that did not endorse or justify the bad things he's done) would elicit a positive reaction.  Trump ended up proudly re-tweeting the latter.  In it, +Vigano said that he "dared hope" that Trump was on the side of good, admitting that he wasn't certain of it, but attempting to elicit whatever good might lurk somewhere inside that (dark, evil) heart of his.

You guys think it's a major virtue on your part as you thump your chest acting like bigshots (while condemning those who do not follow suit and do likewise) and excoriate the Jєωs anonymously on a relatively-minor website.

This is both arrogant and idiotic.

Agreed.  Some people here have an irrational contempt for +Vigano.  If he writes a letter about A, B, and C ... they complain that he didn't write about D, E, F ... as if he can touch upon every subject in every letter.  Different letters may have different themes (something we're taught in English composition class in grade school).  They despise him so much that someone gave you a downthumb just for calling +Vigano a Catholic.

One here (perhaps literally) foams at the mouth whenever she hears anything positive said about Trump.  I do agree that Trump is (at least) controlled, but +Vigano's mention of Trump about 5-6 times in a positive light for her negates the 999 other things he's written about.  And nobody's permitted to make any kind of mistake without getting crucified by the sanctimonious chest-thumpers who feel as if they're changing the world by ranting against a man who's no longer relevant in the world in every or every other post on a relatively tiny forum.

Others despise him because he doesn't join the Globalists in supporting Ukraine but believes that there's some natural good in Vladimir Putin.

He's excoriated for having been in the Novus Ordo, rather than embraced and welcomed warmly for having, by God's grace, become a Traditional Catholic ... as if any of us is here for any other reason than God's free unmerited grace.  Nobody's perfect.  Only a small percetage of Catholic popes are canonized, and God knows how many are in hell.

It's really very disgaceful.

But, to your point, all of +Vigano's letters read almost like Papal Encyclicals.

calumny

calumny

The link you provided only shows that one example, claiming it is Jesus and provides many links to coins with the Roman sun god Sol Invictus and Apollo.

I can't find any other depictions of Jesus as the Sol Invictus.

There seems to be dispute over whether that depiction in the tomb is of Jesus or of Helios, the Roman Sun God also known as Apollo or Mithras and more.



The popularly named "Tomb of the Julii" (Mausoleum "M") survives in the Vatican Necropolis beneath St. Peter's Basilica. The serendipitous discovery near the crypt has a vaulted ceiling bearing a mosaic depicting Helios (Roman Sol Invictus) with an aureole riding in his chariot, within a framing of rinceaux of vine leaves. The mosaic is dated to the late 3rd century to early 4th century. Other mosaics in this tomb depicting Jonah and the whale, the good shepherd carrying a lamb (the kriophoros motif), and fishermen have encouraged its interpretation as a Christian tomb.

This tomb was first discovered in 1574 AD when workmen accidentally broke through the ceiling while conducting some floor alterations in the basilica. The inside was briefly explored and docuмented before the opening was sealed over once more.<sup>[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomb_of_the_Julii

And here
The charioteer in the mosaic of Mausoleum M has been interpreted by some as Christ. Clement of Alexandria had spoken of Christ driving his chariot across the sky.[54] This interpretation is doubted by others: "Only the cross-shaped nimbus makes the Christian significance apparent",[55] and the figure is seen by some simply as a representation of the Sun with no explicit religious reference whatever, pagan or Christian.[56][11]: 567–578 

For more the Cult of Sol Invictus see the rest of this article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sol_Invictus</sup>



So it appears that St Clement spoke of Christ and His chariot in the sky, but that is different from calling Jesus the Sol Invictus.

It's also different from depicting Jesus as the center of the Heliocentric model with earth revolving around the sun and the earth spinning on the axis of the cross.

I've never heard of that before.  Have you?

Do you know of any saints or Church Fathers or popes that call Jesus the Sol Invictus? 

Do you know of any who have depicted Jesus as the heliocentric sun with the earth rotating around him and spinning on the cross?

Is that found in Tradition?


Anyway, the contemporary understanding of Sol Invictus seems to be that he is Lucifer:



THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST

In Luciferian circles,. Lucifer is the Sol Invictus, in direct competition to the Son of GOD, Jesus. Christ. ~The Church Age. BABYLONIA. MEDO-PERSIA. GRECIA.


Wishing Lucifer/Sol Invictus a happy Birthday on this ... - Reddit
Dec 21, 2021 — The world has been covered in darkness but starting today, we will see the return of Sol Invictus, Lucifer, the Bringer of Light, ...
How to celebrate Sol Invictus? : r/SatanicTemple_Reddit
Oct 31, 2021
Sol invictus? : r/SatanicTemple_Reddit
Nov 30, 2020
Lucifer and Sol Invictus : r/LuciferianWitchcraft - Reddit
Nov 27, 2019
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Dec 23, 2021
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"we must see in that shining sun the unconquered Sun, Our Lord Jesus Christ, center of the cosmos created by Him omnia per ipsum facta sunt, et sine ipso factum est nihil quod factum est (Jn 1:3), and even more the center of the Redemption that sets the axis of the Earth to rotate around the Cross: stat Crux, dum volvitur orbis."

The link you provided only shows that one example, claiming it is Jesus and provides many links to coins with the Roman sun god Sol Invictus and Apollo.

I can't find any other depictions of Jesus as the Sol Invictus.

There seems to be dispute over whether that depiction in the tomb is of Jesus or of Helios, the Roman Sun God also known as Apollo or Mithras and more.



The popularly named "Tomb of the Julii" (Mausoleum "M") survives in the Vatican Necropolis beneath St. Peter's Basilica. The serendipitous discovery near the crypt has a vaulted ceiling bearing a mosaic depicting Helios (Roman Sol Invictus) with an aureole riding in his chariot, within a framing of rinceaux of vine leaves. The mosaic is dated to the late 3rd century to early 4th century. Other mosaics in this tomb depicting Jonah and the whale, the good shepherd carrying a lamb (the kriophoros motif), and fishermen have encouraged its interpretation as a Christian tomb.

This tomb was first discovered in 1574 AD when workmen accidentally broke through the ceiling while conducting some floor alterations in the basilica. The inside was briefly explored and docuмented before the opening was sealed over once more.<sup>[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomb_of_the_Julii

And here
The charioteer in the mosaic of Mausoleum M has been interpreted by some as Christ. Clement of Alexandria had spoken of Christ driving his chariot across the sky.[54] This interpretation is doubted by others: "Only the cross-shaped nimbus makes the Christian significance apparent",[55] and the figure is seen by some simply as a representation of the Sun with no explicit religious reference whatever, pagan or Christian.[56][11]: 567–578 

For more the Cult of Sol Invictus see the rest of this article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sol_Invictus</sup>



So it appears that St Clement spoke of Christ and His chariot in the sky, but that is different from calling Jesus the Sol Invictus.

It's also different from depicting Jesus as the center of the Heliocentric model with earth revolving around the sun and the earth spinning on the axis of the cross.

I've never heard of that before.  Have you?

Do you know of any saints or Church Fathers or popes that call Jesus the Sol Invictus? 

Do you know of any who have depicted Jesus as the heliocentric sun with the earth rotating around him and spinning on the cross?

Is that found in Tradition?


Anyway, the contemporary understanding of Sol Invictus seems to be that he is Lucifer:



THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST

In Luciferian circles,. Lucifer is the Sol Invictus, in direct competition to the Son of GOD, Jesus. Christ. ~The Church Age. BABYLONIA. MEDO-PERSIA. GRECIA.


Wishing Lucifer/Sol Invictus a happy Birthday on this ... - Reddit
Dec 21, 2021 — The world has been covered in darkness but starting today, we will see the return of Sol Invictus, Lucifer, the Bringer of Light, ...
How to celebrate Sol Invictus? : r/SatanicTemple_Reddit
Oct 31, 2021
Sol invictus? : r/SatanicTemple_Reddit
Nov 30, 2020
Lucifer and Sol Invictus : r/LuciferianWitchcraft - Reddit
Nov 27, 2019
Happy Sol Invictus! : r/Satan - Reddit
Dec 23, 2021
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