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More Proof that Putin is Not On Our Side
« on: May 19, 2022, 08:50:41 PM »
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  • Original op-ed article can be found here on RT, which is perhaps the most famous Russian state media outlet. I have empathized the most relevant portions. I make it clear that I do not endorse, but rather denounce, the philosemitism of this article's author.

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    24 Jan, 2018 03:38
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    Anti-Semitic tirade on western pro-Kremlin site betrays ignorance of Russia


    Author: Bryan MacDonald


    An outrageous anti-Semitic tirade on an American ‘pro-Russia’ blog-site proves that the inability to properly understand Russia often extends to westerners who think they are ‘supporting’ the country.

    Since its inception, there have been numerous reasons to laugh at ‘Russia Insider’ (henceforth RI). There’s the way it brazenly steals content from professional news outlets and repackages it, with a twist. Not to mention the pseudo-messianic zeal of its founders, displayed in its initial fundraising videos. But it’s definitely not funny anymore.

    In the beginning, RI seemed semi-promising, and many gave it the benefit of the doubt. Because, given the Putin-derangement virus which has infected western media, there are very few outlets these days for journalists and commentators willing to be balanced in their coverage of Russia. Indeed, those perceived as “Russia versteher” (even if that usually means simply realistic and honest in their coverage) are more-or-less blacklisted in the mainstream press. Something I have first-hand experience of.

    Thus, writers who disengaged from RI after the very early days bear no responsibility for what it has evolved into a few years later. Which is quite clearly an alt-right website, opportunistically surfing the wave of post-Donald Trump ‘legitimacy’ granted to this questionable ideology. Except it still purports to have a Russian twist. And many, poorly-informed, observers fail to understand how it’s not associated with the country in any official way.


    RI, as is clear from its own contact page, is an American entity based in Greenwich, Connecticut. This is despite incorrect assertions by Tablet Magazine and the EU’s supposed fact-checking “myth-bustersStratCom East, who have labelled it Russian.


    Misguided Mission


    As a result, we have a situation where a bunch of westerners are harming Russia by using the country’s name to promote an agenda which isn’t part of Russian discourse. And this is a phenomenon displayed in the behaviour of many zealots, who ‘support’ Russia as keyboard-warrior crusaders but don’t understand the place at all, in reality.

    Instead, they are projecting their own issues with their homelands onto this country and its leaders. For instance, American and European far-rightists think that because Vladimir Putin has restored Russia as a strong and sovereign state, he’s somehow aligned with their beliefs. And is on some kind of mission from God to save ‘white’ Christianity.

    But, he’s not. Because Russia may well be the most ethnically and religiously diverse country in Europe. And Putin’s own cabinets have included a smorgasbord of Jєωs, Muslims and Buddhists in addition to the Christians and Agnostics who form the largest Russian ‘belief’ categories.

    Sure, Putin has restored the prominence of the Orthodox faith and identifies as a believer himself. But that’s a cultural thing, rooted in hundreds of years of Russian history. And he’s not attempting to restore the official state religion of the Tsarist period. Nor has he publically considered banning abortion or outlawing ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ relations, measures the church has frequently called for.

    Instead, the Russian President has personally attended the opening of Russia’s largest mosque, in Moscow, and has been described in a Reuters article as “the closest thing Israel has ever had to a friend in Moscow. While Russia’s chief rabbi, Berel Lazar, says “Putin is on our side.” He even told the Limmud FSU how “Putin was the first president to publicly speak out against anti-Semitism and did the most for the Jєωs. There is no institutional anti-Semitism in Russia. The attitude toward the Jєωs in Russia is excellent."


    Different Folks



    Because here’s the truth. Russia is a very complex country, by any standards. In the south-west, Cossacks and Armenians live side-by-side and, closer to the Caspian sea, many republics are majority Muslim. East of Lake Baikal, Shamans can be found and further towards the Pacific Ocean, Koreans form a large community. Also, according to the World Jєωιѕн Congress, Moscow and Saint Petersburg alone have around 300,000 Jєωιѕн residents, which is not far off the rates for Britain and France as a whole, and doesn’t include other regions of Russia.

    Polling data also backs up the notion of Russia as secular society. Just this week the independent Levada Centre showed how there is very little hostility to any religion in Russia. When asked about “very negative feelings” just 4 percent ascribed them to Jєωs, compared with 3 percent towards Buddhists and also 4 percent towards Muslims. Interestingly, only 45 percent were “very positive” regarding Christians, whereas, in total, 44 percent were positive towards Jєωs, with just 10 percent harboring any form of negative attitude (8 percent for Buddhists, 14 percent for Muslims). Meanwhile, 36 percent didn’t care.

    That’s why the anti-Semitic rantings of RI’s editor Charles Bausman are so tragic and betray his utter ignorance of a country where he once lived.

    Starting from the premise “It’s Time to Drop the Jєω Taboo,” he slanders the likes of Masha Gessen, Anne Applebaum, and Julia Ioffe plus David Remnick, David Frum, Bill Kristol and Charles Krauthammer by dint of their heritage. He also attacks Edward Lucas for having an allegedly Jєωιѕн grand-uncle, as if that were relevant in any way. Because, once again, Bausman is projecting his own western-centric prejudices onto Russia. And, let’s be clear, Bausman’s hang-ups are all about his attitude to America and do not represent what Russians think or feel.

    Anyway, rather than dwelling further on Bausman’s appalling spiel, I’d rather think of figures such as the scientist Vitaly Ginzburg, the poet Osip Mandelstam, the novelist Boris Pasternak and the Chess master Alexander Khalifman. Not to mention contemporary public figures of Jєωιѕн descent like Vladimir Pozner, Vladimir Zhirinovsky, Anzhelika Varum and Alexander Gordon. Who all add to the gaiety of the nation and do Russia some service. In contrast to Russia Insider’s pathetic attempt to hijack and attach Russian identity to its scandalous anti-Semitic slime.








    Offline Mark 79

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    Re: More Proof that Putin is Not On Our Side
    « Reply #1 on: May 19, 2022, 10:21:40 PM »
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  • Well, that made me nauseous.


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    Re: More Proof that Putin is Not On Our Side
    « Reply #2 on: May 19, 2022, 10:59:14 PM »
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  • Trudeau and the truckers were getting some notice before the war in the Ukraine. What's Klaus Schwab gonna do next with all this crazy stuff going on? I mean did (((Jєωtin))) get his vaccines and boosters like Zelensky? (((Big Pharma))) and Blackrock wanna know.

    If the world runs out of saline solution and vitamin B what's gonna happen next?

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    Re: More Proof that Putin is Not On Our Side
    « Reply #3 on: May 20, 2022, 08:38:01 AM »
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  • E14-G3-X1-d
    "The declared enemies of God and His Church, heretics and schismatics, must be criticized as much as possible, as long as truth is not denied. It is a work of charity to shout: ‘Here is the wolf!’ when it enters the flock or anywhere else." -- Saint Francis de Sales

    "For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears:" [2 Timothy 4:3]

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    Re: More Proof that Putin is Not On Our Side
    « Reply #4 on: May 20, 2022, 09:53:19 AM »
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  • The writer of the article is a Chabad plant seeking to impugn the Holy Russian empire. He should be tried for blasphemy and treason, convicted and executed.
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    Re: More Proof that Putin is Not On Our Side
    « Reply #5 on: May 20, 2022, 10:08:14 AM »
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  • No, Putin is not "fully" on our side, but I have yet to see proof that he's on the side of the Globalists.  He does the usual kowtowing to the Jєωs (h0Ɩ0cαųst, etc.), but at the same time he purged the Jєωιѕн oligarchs shortly after he got into office, and that turned Soros and the Globalists into his sworn mortal enemies.  I compare him to Alex Jones.  While Jones will not touch the subject of Jєωιѕн control, in many respects he is against the Globalists and their agenda.  Putin has also promoted the natural law in Russia and has cracked down on public vice.

    You guys obsess over Putin but then give the criminal Zelensky a pass.  He's a clear and obvious Jєω puppet ... put in power by Jєωιѕн oligarch Komoloisky.  Jєωs overthrew the Ukrainian government in 2014 (Victoria Jєωland and George Soros financing it), and Soros has made statements that he wants to use Ukraine as a "torpedo" to attack Russia.

    I'm not buying your BS and your narrative.  Where are your articles about Zelensky and the fact that Ukraine has been armed as a Jєωιѕн puppet state to go after Russia?

    Could it all be play acting?  Maybe, but quite a few pieces don't fit into your narrative.

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    Re: More Proof that Putin is Not On Our Side
    « Reply #6 on: May 20, 2022, 10:14:45 AM »
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  • No, Putin is not "fully" on our side, but I have yet to see proof that he's on the side of the Globalists. 
    Lad, no one is saying that. He is on his OWN SIDE opposed to the Globalist cabal, yes, but certainly not at all on the side of Truth either. That's what I and others have been saying, do not pick either side because their motivations are evil. To me, it somewhat parallels Gog and Magog in Scripture (Apoc. 20:7)

    Don't get sucked in because neither side has our best interest or the Truth in mind

    fαɢɢօts on the Left and Duginists on the Right, and here we are stuck in the middle with Jєωs. :jester:
    "The declared enemies of God and His Church, heretics and schismatics, must be criticized as much as possible, as long as truth is not denied. It is a work of charity to shout: ‘Here is the wolf!’ when it enters the flock or anywhere else." -- Saint Francis de Sales

    "For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears:" [2 Timothy 4:3]

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    Re: More Proof that Putin is Not On Our Side
    « Reply #7 on: May 20, 2022, 10:22:01 AM »
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  • Lad, no one is saying that. He is on his OWN SIDE opposed to the Globalist cabal, yes, but certainly not at all on the side of Truth either. That's what I and others have been saying, do not pick either side because their motivations are evil. To me, it somewhat parallels Gog and Magog in Scripture (Apoc. 20:7)

    As mentioned in the other thread I find Putin to be a bit of an enigma, but I think it's a reasonable position to find that he's on his own side, not anyone else's. He appears not to be a globalist, but I agree that he's not the "great white hope" either. The article points out facts that are consistent with my own research. Ladislaus offers valid counterpoints. There are lots of contradictions in Putin's activities. Many of them may be cynical pragmatism to achieve his ends. I'm just not entirely sure what his ends are.

    I think that it is 100% valid to point out that Russian Orthodoxy is a political puppet of the Russian state. It has been since Tsarist times. I am not seeing evidence of any true spiritual awakening in Russia.


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    Re: More Proof that Putin is Not On Our Side
    « Reply #8 on: May 20, 2022, 11:41:19 AM »
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  • fαɢɢօts on the Left and Duginists on the Right, and here we are stuck in the middle with Jєωs. :jester:
    This meme continues to have legs, or should I say, wheels ::)
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    Re: More Proof that Putin is Not On Our Side
    « Reply #9 on: May 20, 2022, 11:50:33 AM »
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  • This meme continues to have legs, or should I say, wheels ::)
    Tis a good one
    "The declared enemies of God and His Church, heretics and schismatics, must be criticized as much as possible, as long as truth is not denied. It is a work of charity to shout: ‘Here is the wolf!’ when it enters the flock or anywhere else." -- Saint Francis de Sales

    "For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears:" [2 Timothy 4:3]

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    Re: More Proof that Putin is Not On Our Side
    « Reply #10 on: May 20, 2022, 12:03:54 PM »
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  • Nobody can stop Jєω globalist warmongers like Putin.

    Putin saved the 10% Christian minority in Syria from being slaughtered by the international Jєω-backed rabid baboon brigade called "ISIS".


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    Re: More Proof that Putin is Not On Our Side
    « Reply #11 on: May 20, 2022, 02:26:21 PM »
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  • ... but at the same time he purged the Jєωιѕн oligarchs shortly after he got into office, ...
    List of Jєωιѕн oligarchs still in Russia and marked (friend) if confirmed or thought to be friends with Putin:

    1.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Abramov

    2.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkady_Rotenberg (childhood friend)

    3.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Romanovich_Rotenberg (friend)

    4.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petr_Aven (friend)

    5.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Abramovich

    6.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleg_Deripaska#Vladimir_Putin (friend)

    7.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Fridman#Current_posts

    8.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zarakh_Iliev

    9.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viatcheslav_Moshe_Kantor (close ties)

    10.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Khan (sanctioned by Trump)

    11.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gennady_Timchenko (close friend)

    12.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Shvidler (business partner of Abramovich)

    13.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonid_Mikhelson (business partner of Timchenko)

    14.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vadim_Moshkovich

    15.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_Nisanov (favored)

    16.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Rotenberg (Rotenberg heir)

    17.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irina_Viner-Usmanova (introduced Putin to alleged mistress Alina Kabaeva)

    18.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Vekselberg (Jєωιѕн father, sanctioned)

    19.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkady_Volozh (founder and CEO of Yandex, search engine)

    This isn't an exhaustive list. Sanctioned "oligarchs" included for cross-reference purposes:

    1.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countering_America%27s_Adversaries_Through_Sanctions_Act#List_of_Russian_nationals_named_in_the_CAATSA_unclassified_report

    2.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_and_organizations_sanctioned_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War#Prior_to_2022_invasion

    The best you could say would be that some Jєωs publicly opposed Putin, while many others continued unmolested.

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    ... and that turned Soros and the Globalists into his sworn mortal enemies. ...

    Did it really?

    Sources:
    1.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_%26_Co

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    Rothschild & Co is a multinational investment bank and financial services company, and the flagship of the Rothschild banking group controlled by the French and British branches of the Rothschild family.

    2.) https://web.archive.org/web/20220225163418/https://www.rothschildandco.com/en/offices/ga-moscow/

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    Moscow
    Address:
    4, bld. 2, Romanov lane
    Moscow 125009
    Russia


    Phone:+7 495 775 8221

    3.) https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-23/rothschild-s-wealth-unit-will-not-accept-new-russian-clients

    (Free) https://www.privatebankerinternational.com/news/rothschild-wealth-russia-clients/

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    Rothschild & Co.’s wealth management unit will no longer take new customers holding Russian citizenship, people familiar with the situation said. 

    The Paris-based bank, which has about 70 Russian clients, took the measure amid fears the lists of individuals under European Union and U.S. sanctions may widen over time, the people said, asking for anonymity because the matter is private.

    Rothschild, which had a team of about 10 people in Moscow, has suspended its advisory activities in the country and relocated some of its local staff elsewhere, the people said.

    A spokeswoman for Rothschild declined to comment.
    They are following the same narrative as everyone else since Ukraine, but you can read for yourself.

    Offline Philothea3

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    Re: More Proof that Putin is Not On Our Side
    « Reply #12 on: May 20, 2022, 07:57:35 PM »
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  • One of our friends who occasionally comments on Telegram channels, including Russian ones, received a message from someone recently.

    Purportedly it's from a pretty young lady called Irina who says she's a Russian Catholic. Far more likely it's from Britain's Counter Disinformation Unit, or 77 Brigade, or some similar entity. But, nevertheless, he decided it wouldn't do any harm to reply, so he did.

    The message from Irina says that "any foreign Catholic who is sympathetic towards the Russian government is a traitor to all Russian Catholics. These people like Vigano are either blind or heartless," and she goes on to complain about Russian laws preventing proselytism, Mass celebrated in small chapels and rented rooms instead of grandiose churches, the occasional expulsion of a foreign priest and stuff, and finishes by saying "Supporting Putin is the same as supporting the Taliban, both are conservative and anti-Western, both are anti-Catholic." 

    This is what our friend replied:

    "Being anti-Western is a good thing. All Catholics must be anti-Western by definition because 'The West' came into being on the back of the destruction of the western part of Christendom in the 18th-century 'Enlightenment. It is Masonic, liberal and anti-Christian. Before that 'the West,' as a political entity didn't exist. More specifically 'the West' is the expression of the geopolitical project of the U.S.A., and the U.S.A. was never part of Christendom.

    As for laws in Russia, just like in the first centuries of Christianity in the Roman Empire, you must obey the civil laws laid down by the authorities just as people must do in any country, or face the consequences. As for proselytism, it was also illegal in Catholic nations when they existed. That's normal. Conversion usually comes from the top down in any society. Your only role as a citizen of Russia is to show good example of the Christian life to all those you meet in your daily life, to be a good citizen and to pray and make sacrifices for Russia's true conversion.

    With Russia it's a special case, as you know .... or at least should know. At Fatima, which was backed up by a very public miracle witnessed by tens-of-thousands of people, believers and unbelievers alike, the Holy Mother of God revealed in the messages given to us that Russia is an elective nation chosen by God to be consecrated to His service. Russia is also to act as God's instrument of chastisement to destroy a degenerate and decrepit world. And that would be, in particular, the West with its anti-Christian hatred, and its sodomy, transgenderism, attempts at transhumanism and open Satanism.

    We are entering that time, so to stand with Russia or to stand against Russia is either to stand with God and welcome His plans for the world, or to stand against God and try and resist His will."

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    Re: More Proof that Putin is Not On Our Side
    « Reply #13 on: May 20, 2022, 08:51:23 PM »
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  • This is what our friend replied:
    I've read a lot of ideas that I strongly disagreed with on CathInfo, but I was honestly dumbfounded for some minutes upon reading this reply. Truly, we are living in times of universal deceit.

    "Being anti-Western is a good thing. All Catholics must be anti-Western by definition because 'The West' came into being on the back of the destruction of the western part of Christendom in the 18th-century 'Enlightenment. It is Masonic, liberal and anti-Christian. Before that 'the West,' as a political entity didn't exist. More specifically 'the West' is the expression of the geopolitical project of the U.S.A., and the U.S.A. was never part of Christendom.

    There is a measure of truth here, but it's a dishonest argument. Western Civilization was built up on the work of bishops, and the various countries of Europe can trace their foundings back to these courageous men. Western Civilization, Christendom and the West have been used interchangeably, and the concept of "the West" goes back to the ancient Greeks, Constantine, etc. What the Communists mean when they push this "anti-Western" idea is not simply the destruction of neoliberalism, but it's a means to an end because these very same people have been the ones filling the West with filth. Russia and China shovel filth into the West and prevent their own citizens from being fully debauched, and not for reasons of their morality, but because they desire to destroy the West, Christendom and the Church.

    As for laws in Russia, just like in the first centuries of Christianity in the Roman Empire, you must obey the civil laws laid down by the authorities just as people must do in any country, or face the consequences. As for proselytism, it was also illegal in Catholic nations when they existed. That's normal. Conversion usually comes from the top down in any society. Your only role as a citizen of Russia is to show good example of the Christian life to all those you meet in your daily life, to be a good citizen and to pray and make sacrifices for Russia's true conversion.
    The early Church refused to capitulate to the Roman authorities' demands for a pinch of incense. Catholic nations banned false religions. What we should not desire is "normal", but what God says, which is that error has no rights. Conversion comes from the grace of God, not from the naturalistic view of history. The last sentence may have some parts that sound good, but this has the odor of Catholicism just being another religion to practice in the sea of human expression. The role of a Catholic is to advance the cause of Christ however possible in their state of life, which may necessitate not simply going along to get along. We know what the Russian government has done to Catholics historically, and we've seen how the Russian government values Ukrainian Catholics next door.

    With Russia it's a special case, as you know .... or at least should know. At Fatima, which was backed up by a very public miracle witnessed by tens-of-thousands of people, believers and unbelievers alike, the Holy Mother of God revealed in the messages given to us that Russia is an elective nation chosen by God to be consecrated to His service. Russia is also to act as God's instrument of chastisement to destroy a degenerate and decrepit world. And that would be, in particular, the West with its anti-Christian hatred, and its sodomy, transgenderism, attempts at transhumanism and open Satanism.

    We are entering that time, so to stand with Russia or to stand against Russia is either to stand with God and welcome His plans for the world, or to stand against God and try and resist His will.
    This is peak Perestroika Deception, and something Timothy Fitzpatrick has warned about that I was initially skeptical. This person somehow imagines Russian to be a holy nation that has a mission from God, when even a cursory examination proves that it has worse levels of depravity than many nations in the West could dream of achieving. Abortion, ѕυιcιdє, divorce, alcoholism, drug abuse, sorcery, witchcraft, etc. The worst part of the Soviet occupation has been dropping the average Russian citizens into a spiritual sewer from which it would appear almost none of them escape in their lifetimes. The Jєωs and their idea of Communism was one of the most powerful and terrible Chastisements that God has ever sent a nation on Earth.

    Russia is the instrument of Chastisement, but it is a nation of the Devil. It belongs to the red dragon, absolutely drenched in the blood of martyrs which has flown freely from 1917 to the present time. At first it was primarily in the form of bombs and bullets, but the spiritual weaponry it perfected has probably no parallel in history. The Russian intelligence services' propaganda was and is worse than any nuclear bomb that could be invented by mankind.

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    Re: More Proof that Putin is Not On Our Side
    « Reply #14 on: May 20, 2022, 09:06:54 PM »
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  • They are a Catholic but they claim Russia is some holy country when a) they've been very anti-Catholic and b) they have not been consecrated yet? The KGB Russian Orthodox Church is not of God. Stockholm syndrome, much?