In other words, here is the data:

Human Spaceflight Number, Distance from Earth Traveled
1. 1,200 miles, USA
2. 1,200 miles, Russia
3. 1,100 miles, Russia
4. 1,150 miles, USA
(repeats like this, then...)
450. (Moon Landing) 238,900 miles
451. 1,200 miles, EU
452. 1,175 miles, Japan
453. 1,190 miles, China
454. 1,170 miles, USA
455. 1,160 miles, Russia
(goes on like this, for the next 50 years!)

See what I mean?

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I’m not into NASA (nor sci-fi).  So all spaceflights except one supposed to the moon have been around 1.2k miles and that one was 238.9k miles?  That is bizarre.
I don’t fully believe the moon is that far away.  But in any event, I don’t believe we’ve ever been either.

You're telling me no other country has managed to go there in almost 50 years?

Yes, I'm telling readers exactly that.

U.S.A.!  U.S.A.!  U.S.A.!

Here's wishing United-Statesian CathInfo members, readers, and of course its owner-moderator, a happy 50th anniversary ^[*] of the Landing on the Moon by the U.S. lunar-excursion-module Eagle of Apollo 11.

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Note *: The anniversary date of the landing as reckoned by Greenwich Time is July 20 (8:17 p.m.) but the 2 Moon-walking astronauts did set foot into lunar dust until nearly 3 a.m. July 21 GMT.  They did stay for 21½ hours after landing (these are corrections to my "50th Anniversary" posting misplaced late last night in <https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/we-never-went-to-the-moon-proof/>).  I regret that the anniversary hours have passed at the CathInfo server-bunker in the Central Daylight Time-Zone.  So I hope it was a happy anniversary for United-Statesians, one and all.

https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/clever-song-summarizing-proofs-of-moon-landing-hoax

What the notoriously corrupt United States federal government is claiming is to have sent men to the moon in 1969, on the VERY FIRST attempt, even though right here on earth Mt. Everest and the South Pole took NUMEROUS tries before success, allegedly accomplishing this amazing feat with 50 YEAR older technology (a cell phone has ONE MILLION times more computing power than ALL of NASA did in 1969), yet 50 YEARS later NASA can now only send astronauts ONE - THOUSANDTH the distance to the moon, even with 5 DECADES more advancements in rockets and computers.

If Toyota claimed they made a car 50 YEARS ago that could travel 50,000 miles on one gallon of gasoline, yet today their best car can only go 50 miles per gallon, or ONE - THOUSANDTH the distance, would not the forgery of the previous claim be incredibly obvious? If it were not for people's pride and emotional attachment to the 50 YEAR OLD unrepeatable moon landing claim, also with only ONE - THOUSANDTH the distance capable 5 DECADES later, they would otherwise easily recognize this equally preposterous claim as the fraud that it sadly is.

The alleged moon landings are the only technological claim in the entire history of the world, such as the first automobile, airplane, or nuclear power, which was not far surpassed in capability 50 YEARS later, much less not even able to be duplicated by any nation on earth 50 YEARS later. The supposed moon landings are also the only time in history that such claimed expensive technology was deliberately destroyed afterwards (175 BILLION DOLLARS worth), only done so to hide the evidence of the fraud.

Seeing how it is IMPOSSIBLE for technology to go BACKWARDS and today NASA can only send astronauts ONE - THOUSANDTH the distance to the moon as was claimed 50 YEARS ago on the VERY FIRST attempt with 5 DECADES OLDER technology, the only remaining conclusion is that the 1969 claim was a federal government lie. It is that simple and that corrupt.

Award winning filmmaker Bart Sibrel (Sibrel.com) presents his highly acclaimed controversial docuмentary "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon" which debuts newly discovered behind-the-scenes out-takes from the supposed first mission to the moon showing the crew staging the photography of being "halfway to the moon", conclusively proving that they never left earth orbit, as is still NASA's limit today 50 YEARS later.

In re-reviewing this thread it's clear to me that moon hoaxers should admit that they're speculating. I don't see any information they have that should lead them to know the moon landings didn't happen.

Hi Rum,
Think about it. We don't have any information that should lead us to know that the moon landing DID happen.
Expecting to prove a negative is like expecting Trump to prove that he did NOT collude with the Russians, or expecting Judge Kavenaugh to prove that he did NOT do the things he was alleged to have done.
The burden of proof is on the Freemasonic organization NASA to prove that they did what they have claimed. If they could do so, they would have responded to credible critics who say they did not land on the moon.

Think about it. We don't have any information that should lead us to know that the moon landing DID happen.

You mean, like audio and visual recordings, images, physical artifacts, data, testimony of people involved, and first-hand witinesses? We don't have any of that?

And there are videos of things that could only happen in low gravity with no atmosphere, like Armstrong jumping about 5 feet up the ladder, the parabolic arcs of dust the astronauts kicked up, or the hammer/feather drop. As well as independent corroboration from observatories receiving the radio transmissions from the moon. And photographs of the landing sites by later probes from other space agencies.

The moon landings are among the most well docuмented events in the 20th century. The Apollo program was not secret. It was not the Manhattan project.

Expecting to prove a negative is like expecting Trump to prove that he did NOT collude with the Russians

Not exactly analogous. There is no specific story about how Trump might have colluded. If there were, like in any criminal defense he could disprove it by showing a critical part of the story was impossible, eg. an alibi. Kavanaugh did this to the extent that he could.

Now you may think some critical part of the moon landing story is impossible. But all the standard alleged problems have been explained, including the alleged problems with photographs (shadows in different directions can be seen in routine earth-bound photos, plus if there were multiple light sources there would be multiple shadows, Armstrong appears in reflection in Aldrin's visor without a camera because the cameras were mounted to the suits not la commercial handheld, stars don't show up in pictures due to the exposure time), and the alleged radiation problem of the Van Allen belts have also been explained (the path went around them to a great extent, and most of the radiation is alpha/beta particles, which are easy to shield against). Also the flag doesn't actually wave (which can be seen by comparing different pictures of the flag and noting that the wrinkles are identical).

You're welcome to present other alleged problems. I will do my best to explain why they're not problems. I have not seen any convincing arguments against the moon landings.

In the end, that doesn't mean you have to accept the moon landings. But I don't think it's a good thing to accept bad arguments against them. Once the bad arguments are removed, you can accept or not accept - that's up to you.

But, as a Catholic, I think you should reflect that if you can disbelieve the moon landings despite evidence, records and testimony, what does that do to apologetics? How can we get non Catholics to believe the evidence, records and testimony of Christ and the apostles.

But, as a Catholic, I think you should reflect that if you can disbelieve the moon landings despite evidence, records and testimony, what does that do to apologetics? How can we get non Catholics to believe the evidence, records and testimony of Christ and the apostles.

You speak of eyewitnesses, but have you seen what these men are made of? You need to watch on Youtube (also linked on one of these threads) "Astronauts Gone Wild".


If I had to prove the Moon Landings happened or that Christ worked many miracles and rose Himself from the Dead, I'd much prefer having to prove the latter. There is much more evidence for it, even though it was much longer ago. And there is NO evidence that suggests a hoax. In fact, there is quite a bit of evidence disproving Resurrection deniers. No one has ever produced Christ's body, for example. The words and actions of contemporaries (both friends and enemies), etc.

Did you know, before this thread, that NASA actually claims to have destroyed the $175 Billion of technology to go to the Moon? I guess it's the same reason they hauled off the rubble of the WTC buildings a few days after 9/11. Can't have any evidence of the hoax lying around...

When has technology like that been wantonly destroyed, and never developed or improved by others -- for a period of 50+ years? Never. Only if it was fake and non-existent to begin with.

Notice that every President since 1972 has held out "going back to the Moon" and/or a trip to Mars as a carrot to inspire the people -- but it never happens.

Wayne Gretzky https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NHL_players_with_50-goal_seasons

Wayne Gretzky's score count was not an order of magnitude higher than other professional hockey players.

If most players get in the 10-20 range of goals per season, and Gretzky got 1,000 or 10,000 goals in a season -- then we'd be talking!

Do you understand the phrase "order of magnitude"?


Low Earth Orbit: 100–1,240 miles
Distance to Moon: 238,900 mi