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Re: Moon Landings - No Hard Science Knowledge
« Reply #70 on: May 18, 2018, 09:59:52 PM »
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Body heat inside the suit would be a problem before the moon-walkers exited the LEM. The entire LEM would be subject to the oven-like environment of A) being in direct sunlight which is 250 deg. F. on the moon. Plus, B) the moon's surface is heated to the same 250 deg. F. so it's like landing in a pre-heated oven. Cookies can bake at that temperature. Try wrapping cookie dough in aluminum foil in a hot oven and see what they're like after a half hour.
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Compressed oxygen would provide some cooling all right, but how much? The astronauts never said their suits were cooled by oxygen, they said "air conditioning" equipment in their back packs. If the oxygen tank was in the pack, the tank itself would be what cools when liquified gas under 20,000 psi +/- would boil off for breathing, and the back pack itself would be heated by the sun. The amount of cooling that would arrive via the air being breathed would be heated by the hose connecting the space suit to the backpack. It's all pretty vague stuff here. None of the explanations for cooling say anything about cooling the space suit by evaporating liquid oxygen. They say "air conditioning."
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How would breathing air help to cool your feet or legs for example?
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When Elon Musk or any other private venture tries to go to the moon we're going to become informed a lot better, it seems to me.
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In the videos I linked above, Bill Kaysing said it's not any ONE THING that makes the difference, rather it's the total collection of all the various topics and systems raising red flags that discredits the official story. And notice when NASA spokesmen pretend to answer the questions, they go broad and general, making sweeping statements without answering any individual specific points in particular. They never say what type of batteries were used (Matthew found one "silver zinc" which is usually used for watch batteries) and whatever they were they never made it into commercial production for automotive use. We went directly from lead-acid automotive batteries to lithium-ion, but the latter was not invented until 17 years after Apollo (1980).
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And how would they have charged the batteries, with solar cells? Where are the solar cells on the LEM photographs? They would have had to use an enormous array, which could have served as a sun shade but none of the photos have that. Never mind that solar cells were still in their infancy in the 1960's, very inefficient.
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Re: Moon Landings - No Hard Science Knowledge
« Reply #71 on: May 19, 2018, 01:53:37 AM »
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Watch the last 5 minutes (says "new" but it's almost a year old) :
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There are government officials who have privately (off the record) congratulated Bart Sibrel for the work he has been doing, but they cannot come out in public for saying that because there are two factions behind the scenes at odds with each other, and have been for a long time "perhaps since the cινιℓ ωαr," and if this we didn't go to the moon were to be made public there would be a national crisis, the stock market would crash, the dollar would crash, foreign countries would lose all confidence in America and we could have a new cινιℓ ωαr on our hands. (Obviously part of the cut-out portion that did not air in England.)
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From the Youtube page:
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Bart Sibrel's entire unedited one hundred minute interview from England's Channel 5's recent [June 2016] national television special on the alleged "moon landings", specifically orchestrated to reassure the public, against the emerging truth to the contrary, that their number one ally, the United States, did not falsify the touted moon landings of the 1960's, even though they cannot be replicated today by anyone with five decades more advanced technology.
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Choosing only to show two minutes of Bart Sibrel's one hundred minute interview to the public, in which he outlined in great detail how and why the missions were indeed falsified by the highly disreputable Nixon administration, for fear these revelations might otherwise convince the public of the truths therein, Channel 5 instead, by deleting 98% of Sibrel's disclosing interview, selectively steered the narrative away from the truth, in order to comply with directives from higher executives to conceal the truth, after which the producers involved resigned in disgruntlement over the censored facts they attempted to present.

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Bart Sibrel has explained elsewhere (not on YouTube channel) that he has to disable comments on these videos in order to protect himself (because he is doing literally very dangerous work here, and gives many anecdotes to substantiate this claim - people like him end up mysteriously dead by "accident" or "heart attack" and their bodies are cremated immediately w/o autopsy) and in order not to have thousands of complaints coming in to YouTube such that his videos would be removed. All it takes is one CIA phone call to YouTube and it's a blank screen for Sibrel.
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Re: Moon Landings - No Hard Science Knowledge
« Reply #72 on: May 19, 2018, 02:17:17 AM »
I'll read up on this issue. What do you think about the suggestion here that the footage that shows what can be interpreted as wires is actually the antennae on their backpacks reflecting?
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What do you think of the Apollo 17 LEM lift-off from the moon?
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You know, the one where astronauts have vociferously defended the camera technique as being the result of advance orders given to the TV camera robot left on the moon to start panning upwards two seconds before the liftoff so that the LEM would still be in the frame, since a robot was left on the moon to operate the camera while the astronauts all went home.
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Oh, BTW, it's the shot that makes Dorothy's house falling on Munchkin land look like it was real. Yeah. That LEM lift-off.
And BTW, it's the lift-off that shows no plume of rocket engines firing from the module lifting off. And it wiggles like a toy.
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That would be a robot and TV camera that are still there on the moon's surface, of course. Or......... not.
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Re: Moon Landings - No Hard Science Knowledge
« Reply #73 on: May 19, 2018, 08:39:22 AM »
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What do you think of the Apollo 17 LEM lift-off from the moon?
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You know, the one where astronauts have vociferously defended the camera technique as being the result of advance orders given to the TV camera robot left on the moon to start panning upwards two seconds before the liftoff so that the LEM would still be in the frame, since a robot was left on the moon to operate the camera while the astronauts all went home.
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Oh, BTW, it's the shot that makes Dorothy's house falling on Munchkin land look like it was real. Yeah. That LEM lift-off.
And BTW, it's the lift-off that shows no plume of rocket engines firing from the module lifting off. And it wiggles like a toy.
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That would be a robot and TV camera that are still there on the moon's surface, of course. Or......... not.
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So, Neil, you're admitting that NASA has been caught perpetrating fakery?

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Re: Moon Landings - No Hard Science Knowledge
« Reply #74 on: May 19, 2018, 09:28:57 AM »
There are government officials who have privately (off the record) congratulated Bart Sibrel for the work he has been doing, but they cannot come out in public for saying that because there are two factions behind the scenes at odds with each other, and have been for a long time "perhaps since the cινιℓ ωαr," and if this we didn't go to the moon were to be made public there would be a national crisis, the stock market would crash, the dollar would crash, foreign countries would lose all confidence in America and we could have a new cινιℓ ωαr on our hands. (Obviously part of the cut-out portion that did not air in England.)

Another scenario is that the powers that pulled off the moon landing hoax would also only allow it to be known as a hoax when they were able to control the fallout. When I found out the h0Ɩ0cαųst didn't happened, it didn't make the Jews less intimidating. It made them more intimidating. Only very powerful people could pull off a lie that big. If other countries realized we didn't land on the moon it would likely make them more intimidated by our government. What resources, boldness and high intelligence such people must have at their disposal to even attempt such lies.

This quote from Robert Faurisson from the preface to Dissecting the h0Ɩ0cαųst is relevant:

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I think that the co-religionists of Mr. Berenbaum will at last abandon the gas chamber as they have abandoned the Jєωιѕн soap and the Auschwitz 4 million. They will go farther than that. As in the two previous cases, they will present themselves as the discoverers of the myth and accuse the Germans, the Poles, or the Communists of having fabricated the ‘myth of the gas chambers’. In support of their impudent thesis, they will then invoke the names of Jews who are Revisionists totally or in part (J.G. Burg, Jean-Gabriel Cohn-Bendit, Roger-Guy Dommergue, Arno Mayer, David Cole, Christopher Hitchens, Joel Hayward ?). They will then assign themselves the starring role.
 
 At the same time, however, transforming the ‘h0Ɩ0cαųst’ of the Jews into a religious belief, this time divested of all material content, they will be only the more inflexible in denouncing authentic Revisionists as ‘deniers’, or ‘negationists’, as being intolerant, heartless, basely materialistic and hostile to the free expression of religious sentiments. For those Jews, the true Revisionists will thus continue to be diabolical in spirit even if they must be acknowledged to be in the right from a factual point of view.

At some point in time it may be permissible to say that the nαzιs had no plan and made no attempt to liquidate European Jewry, but only after such time as the Jews have managed to "assign themselves the starring role" in uncovering the duplicity.


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There are government officials who have privately (off the record) congratulated Bart Sibrel for the work he has been doing, but they cannot come out in public for saying that because there are two factions behind the scenes at odds with each other, and have been for a long time

Yeah these "government officials" are probably his mailman and garbage collector. I doubt he has connections with important government people.

Sibrel gives off the whiff of a Jew huckster.