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Offline Jaynek

Re: Moon Landings - No Hard Science Knowledge
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2018, 12:04:02 PM »
I don't put it past the government to fake moon landings.  I see no reason to consider them honest and trustworthy.  So I find that sort of argument plausible.

On the other hand, the argument which I find strongest in favour of the moon landings is the nature of the Cold War.  Because I am old enough to remember what it was like, I find it hard to hard to believe that the Soviets wouldn't have gotten hold of the evidence of fraud and exposed it.  The "space race" was a big deal and the Soviets had an effective spy system.  
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Offline Matthew

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Re: Moon Landings - No Hard Science Knowledge
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2018, 12:08:22 PM »
Any talk of going "back" to the Moon, or to Mars, is a huge joke. We haven't even left Low Earth Orbit yet!  

Even if you take the leap of faith that we went to the Moon in 1969 and the early 70's, that would still be the equivalent of, "I know we've been staying in the wading/kiddie end of the pool for the last 50 years, but now we're proposing to swim across the Atlantic ocean -- and back!"

How about you swim a few hundred feet first -- where your feet can't touch the bottom -- before you talk about swimming from New York to France and back!

We don't have any human outposts, any human journeys, any ANYTHING further away than Low Earth Orbit. That is a fact. I'd rather talk about that, than talk about all the other proofs that the Moon Landings were a hoax.

It's a law of experimental science, as well as Statistics, that when you have a far-and-above exception to 99% of the data, it must be considered an aberration to be dismissed. I didn't come up with this argument, but MAN is it rock-solid and the most compelling argument why the Moon Landings were a hoax. The truth of it resonated with me, and burrowed deep into my brain.
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Offline Matthew

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Re: Moon Landings - No Hard Science Knowledge
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2018, 12:13:24 PM »
Statistics, and data, just don't work this way:

Fastest 100-meter dash:   1.5 seconds
Second fastest 6.05 seconds
Third fastest: 6.13 seconds
Fourth fastest: 6.35 seconds
...
etc.


You NEVER, EVER have a datum "in a whole different league" than the runner-up and the 2nd runner-up. It just doesn't happen. If anyone wishes to prove me wrong I'm all ears!

Or phone processors:

Fastest 5,000 GHz
2nd fastest: 1.8 GHz
Third fastest: 1.7 GHz
etc.
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Offline Matthew

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Re: Moon Landings - No Hard Science Knowledge
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2018, 12:15:29 PM »
Interesting graphic. Look at the bottom of the graphic, to see how far away the moon is.
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Offline Matthew

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Re: Moon Landings - No Hard Science Knowledge
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2018, 12:18:13 PM »
In other words, here is the data:

Human Spaceflight Number, Distance from Earth Traveled
1. 1,200 miles, USA
2. 1,200 miles, Russia
3. 1,100 miles, Russia
4. 1,150 miles, USA
(repeats like this, then...)
450. (Moon Landing) 238,900 miles
451. 1,200 miles, EU
452. 1,175 miles, Japan
453. 1,190 miles, China
454. 1,170 miles, USA
455. 1,160 miles, Russia
(goes on like this, for the next 50 years!)

See what I mean?
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