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Offline Smedley Butler

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Re: Moon Landings - No Hard Science Knowledge
« Reply #150 on: June 09, 2018, 12:44:02 PM »
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    « Reply #151 on: June 09, 2018, 01:53:21 PM »
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  • Kaysing discusses pilot who came forward after witnessing a C5 airplane releasing the command capsule over Hawaii for Apollo 15's return.




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    Re: Moon Landings - No Hard Science Knowledge
    « Reply #152 on: June 09, 2018, 02:08:33 PM »
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  • Weidner says Kubrick lived behind the walls of St. Alban's and patrolled it in his golf cart with a shotgun because he feared for his life.

    He says Edgar Mitchell approached psychotherapist Robert Masters and asked to be hypnotized in 1975 to recover his moon memories because he could not remember it.

    After 15 sessions, no memories were recovered. 

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    Re: Moon Landings - No Hard Science Knowledge
    « Reply #153 on: June 09, 2018, 02:18:55 PM »
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  • Here's Rodney Ascher's 2012 docuмentary film "Room 237" about Stanley Kubrick's telling of the moon landings story in the film "The Shining."


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    Re: Moon Landings - No Hard Science Knowledge
    « Reply #154 on: June 09, 2018, 02:29:00 PM »
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  • One of the biggest clues is that of all the Apollo missions, every single one made it back ... even with the staged drama of Apollo 13.  This technology was so tenuous at best that two or three would have resulted in catastrophic failure under the best conditions.


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    Re: Moon Landings - No Hard Science Knowledge
    « Reply #155 on: June 09, 2018, 02:47:10 PM »
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  • Here's Rodney Ascher's 2012 docuмentary film "Room 237" about Stanley Kubrick's telling of the moon landings story in the film "The Shining."


    This actually looks very interesting. Thank you. I am not saying the conclusions will necessarily be true but I am fascinated with the interaction between culture and society. 

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    Re: Moon Landings - No Hard Science Knowledge
    « Reply #156 on: June 09, 2018, 06:43:14 PM »
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  • Here's the link to part 2 of Weidner's "Kubrick's Odyssey":



    Some might not find Part II of Weidner's "Kubrick's Odyssey" interesting since it focuses deeply on the film 2001 and its esoteric mesage given by Kubrick who was an initiate of Kabbalah and a Jєω.
    Weidner also speculates on Kubrick's sudden death, only days after showing Eyes Wide Shut to Warner Bros. execs, as punishment for revealing too much about child sex trafficking and occult rituals. Weidner says Kubrick planned a one-two punch with Eyes Wide Shut and "A.I." for pulling the veil off the elites' pedophilia practices.

    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: Moon Landings - No Hard Science Knowledge
    « Reply #157 on: June 09, 2018, 08:41:05 PM »
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  • .
    This is the reason there won't be any lunar landings until after it has become common knowledge that the Apollo missions were fake.
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    When a real mission goes to the moon it will become obvious how staged the Apollo videos and photographs were.
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    They were only competing against motion picture sophistication like that of this movie from 1950, 18 years old.
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    This is the "staged drama" that everyone was accustomed to for nearly 2 decades:
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    Re: Moon Landings - No Hard Science Knowledge
    « Reply #158 on: June 10, 2018, 12:24:13 PM »
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  • Here's Rodney Ascher's 2012 docuмentary film "Room 237" about Stanley Kubrick's telling of the moon landings story in the film "The Shining."

    I've been watching this and it's compelling. If it isn't a matter of Kubrick leaving all sorts of references to Apollo 11 then there are lots of coincidences. Not being skilled with numerology and symbol-finding, I don't know that lots of other messages, totally unrelated to NASA and Apollo, couldn't be found in the film if one were to look hard. It's possible to count the cars in the Overlook parking lot in such a way that they make up the date of the first step on the moon 7-21-69. But couldn't you rearrange 43 cars to represent anything? D.B Caulfield is a stretch, as representing Kubrick selling out. If anything his claimed involvement with NASA boosts his profile and makes him seem a genius. His movies are overrated.

    The eagle statues in the office, the Indian totems do look like rockets. Adler is German for eagle. Danny with the Apollo sweater. Room 217 in the book changed to 237. Interesting stuff.

    In the beginning of the movie Kubrick's meeting with Mueller and Slayton is mentioned. If his meeting with them was for ulterior motives I don't see why it would have been publicized, with photos taken, unless they needed a cover story. Kubrick hired Marshall Space Flight Center personnel Fred Orway and Harry Lange, and they relocated to England to help with pre-production. This source says that the purpose of all this was to ensure the scientific accuracy of his 2001 project.

    I'd think NASA would employ a team of special-effects people, but I don't see any use for employing Kubrick. I don't even think Kubrick is a very good storyteller, so the claim that he was hired to write the scripts for Apollo 11, 12, and 13 sounds fishy. Better to hire some very skilled screenwriter who has a vested interest in the conspiracy.

    The Oleg Olleynik article referenced is above my head. For those interested the people here claim that it's bunk.





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    Re: Moon Landings - No Hard Science Knowledge
    « Reply #159 on: June 10, 2018, 01:51:53 PM »
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  • Kubrick has a lot of offshore money revealed in the Panama Papers of the Fonseca Firm.

    Where do you suppose all that money came from and why would he need to hide it?




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    Re: Moon Landings - No Hard Science Knowledge
    « Reply #160 on: June 10, 2018, 03:05:53 PM »
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  • Kubrick has a lot of offshore money revealed in the Panama Papers of the Fonseca Firm.

    Where do you suppose all that money came from and why would he need to hide it?
    This doesn't really have much to do with the thread. I read he was worth about $20 million. That shocks me, as I thought he would be worth much more than that.  It's not like Bill Gates-level wealth. Tons of rich people keep money offshore.

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    Re: Moon Landings - No Hard Science Knowledge
    « Reply #161 on: June 10, 2018, 08:06:29 PM »
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  • I had a look at this debunking video:



    One of the claims in Shining Code 2.0 which I found intriguing is that room 217 in the book was changed by Kubrick to room 237 to represent the 237,000 miles distance between the Earth to the moon, even through the distance changes due to the elliptical orbit. But this guy looked at old textbooks to find earlier references that generalize the distance and hasn't found any reference to the moon being 237,000 miles from the Earth.
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    Re: Moon Landings - No Hard Science Knowledge
    « Reply #162 on: June 14, 2018, 12:50:17 PM »
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    237 - 217 = 20 
    This means it's going to take another 20 years to make it to the moon -- or else Kubrick won't be allowed to live that long.
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    Re: Moon Landings - No Hard Science Knowledge
    « Reply #163 on: June 22, 2018, 08:58:39 AM »
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  • Germar Rudolf wrote The Moon Landing: Fact or Fiction? for The Revisionist in 2003, disputing some of the major moon hoax claims.

    I'd think his view would carry more weight, as he's a scientist and he also doesn't lack the backbone to attack a historical claim (the h0Ɩ0h0αx) that is genuinely dangerous to attack, unlike the moon hoax stuff.

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    Re: Moon Landings - No Hard Science Knowledge
    « Reply #164 on: July 01, 2018, 09:04:30 AM »
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  • In re-reviewing this thread it's clear to me that moon hoaxers should admit that they're speculating. I don't see any information they have that should lead them to know the moon landings didn't happen.
    Some would have people believe that I'm a deceiver because I've used various handles on different Catholic forums. They only know this because I've always offered such information, unprompted. Various troll accounts on FE. Ben on SuscipeDomine. Patches on ABLF 1.0 and TeDeum. GuitarPlucker, Busillis, HatchC, and Rum on Cathinfo.