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    Part 1 of a 3-part series, published October 7th, 2018, Feast of the Holy Rosary
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    What Catholics Believe
    Published on Oct 7, 2018

    In this special series of What Catholics Believe, Fr. Jenkins begins his discussion (sections #1 - #3) on the Papal encyclical, Pascendi dominici gregis ("Feeding the Lord's Flock"), promulgated by Pope Saint Pius X on 8 September 1907. This is the first in a series on the encyclical examining the doctrines of the Modernists. Pascendi dominici gregis can be read here: http://tiny.cc/Pascendi
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    This promises to be an excellent series!
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    Already in this introduction to the topic, Fr. Jenkins patiently and with precision has articulated the plan of the entire encyclical, written and promulgated (in the proper sense of the term) by the most recent true Pope Saint of the Universal Church. It is a great consolation to me to see that a good priest has taken on the burden of teaching this encyclical, with the vantage point of perception that comes with 111 years of Church history since its promulgation. 
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    Subsequent installments promise to expand on what is meant by "the Modernist as philosopher, believer, theologian, historian, critic, apologist and reformer." -- Seven roles in one person -- or could we say, a seven-headed beast of the Apocalypse?
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    Pascendi contains the antidote for the Crisis in the Church, inasmuch as for a Catholic to understand the roots of this crisis, and to be able to discern in a public figure the earmarks of Modernism, this is the Rosetta Stone of what would otherwise be total mystery. 
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    Pascendi gives us the keys we need to penetrate the poorly-fitting disguise Modernists wear, by organizing their ostensibly disordered teachings, so as to make them recognizable as their false teachings come up, giving the Catholic student who goes through the rigors of studying Pascendi a fitting perception of Modernism's pretense, such that the disguises they wear will not be effective, and the well-practiced student will be able then to see right through the fog of distortion by which others, even though they may try, will be blinded!
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    The key is study. This is not light reading. This is a topic that must be taken in due time and with patience. Only by STUDYING Pascendi, and preferably with the guidance of a good teacher, like Fr. Jenkins, can the student accomplish a firm grasp of the invaluable lessons that this encyclical has to offer.
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    The modern mind is like a post office with letters all disorganized, or scattered about on the tables and floor, but it's a post office without any pigeon hole shelving for the purpose of sorting mail. Where does one begin? The modern mind, due to the culture that surrounds us, is unable to sort the mail and the chaos only increases as more mail arrives.
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    What the STUDY of Pascendi does is this: it builds pigeon hole shelving in the post office and shows you how to sort the mail. The modern mind does not know where to put timely and priceless information about Modernism, so it remains disordered and chaotic and hard to keep track of. By providing mail boxes (pigeon holes) where the data can be reliably kept for future reference, Pascendi makes the modern mind capable of knowing the reality of the danger Modernism poses to the faith of Catholics, and what to do about it so as to protect your faith.
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    They don't say what the duration of this series will be, but I wouldn't be surprised if it continues into January. This is a difficult topic and the producers of the video are hoping to attract viewers, which might take time. You can't expect a series like this to "go viral" overnight. But if all the viewers on CI would like, subscribe and share this video, perhaps more viewers will find their way to seeing it. Presently there are 1467 views and 5.2K subscribers. Looks like insufficient likes yet for a count to appear, perhaps because the channel is not monetized. This video should have views in the tens of thousands, or at least close to the number of subscribers (5K).



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    Re: MODERNISM - Fr. William Jenkins teaches Pascendi Dominici Gregis, #1
    « Reply #1 on: October 14, 2018, 05:24:22 AM »
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    Fr. Jenkins does an excellent job of bringing out the meaning of the encyclical for today's Catholics.
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    Published on Oct 7, 2018

    In this second part of a special series of What Catholics Believe, on the papal encyclical, Pascendi dominici gregis ("Feeding the Lord's Flock"), Fr. Jenkins discusses sections #4 - #10, examining: the division of the encyclical; modernist teaching; agnosticism's philosophical foundation; vital immanence; and the consequences of the disfigurement of religion.  Covered in those: are how the first thing destroyed by modernism is the intellect (which is how one knows God and the Truth); how modernism is a 'faith experience'; how science and history are limited by this; the role 'sentiment' plays; and how the modernist mind is worse than schizophrenic. All these things are the foundation of their beliefs and are an never ending process which ultimately will lead (if followed to their conclusion) to one world government, one world religion, and the anti-Christ.

    Pascendi dominici gregis ("Feeding the Lord's Flock"), was promulgated by Pope Saint Pius X on 8 September 1907.  Pascendi dominici gregis can be read here: http://tiny.cc/Pascendi
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    Re: MODERNISM - Fr. William Jenkins teaches Pascendi Dominici Gregis, #1
    « Reply #2 on: October 14, 2018, 05:28:58 AM »
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    Re: MODERNISM - Fr. William Jenkins teaches Pascendi Dominici Gregis, #1
    « Reply #3 on: October 14, 2018, 09:57:37 PM »
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    No Catholic discussion of religion and science can be complete today without reference to Pascendi.
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    The CI thread on Fr. Robinson's book, A Realistic Guide to Religion and Science, ought to be referring to Fr. Jenkins' #2 here.
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    See minutes 3 through 9.
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    Starting at minute 12 Fr. Jenkins reviews the infallible prohibitions found in Vat. I regarding Modernist errors.
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    All these things apply directly to the subject of Fr. Robinson's book.
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    Re: MODERNISM - Fr. William Jenkins teaches Pascendi Dominici Gregis, #1
    « Reply #4 on: October 14, 2018, 11:10:41 PM »
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  • See minutes 3 through 9.
    He did a good job explaining agnosticism, phenomenalism, and how the Modernists deny Rom. 1:20. They, like St. Paul said of the Romans, have no excuse for being atheist.

    The Catechism of Modernism by Fr. Jean Baptiste Lemius (1851-1938), thought to be the drafter of Pascendi, is also very good. cf. pp. 7ff.
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    Re: MODERNISM - Fr. William Jenkins teaches Pascendi Dominici Gregis, #1
    « Reply #5 on: October 15, 2018, 02:43:20 AM »
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  • He did a good job explaining agnosticism, phenomenalism, and how the Modernists deny Rom. 1:20. They, like St. Paul said of the Romans, have no excuse for being atheist.

    The Catechism of Modernism by Fr. Jean Baptiste Lemius (1851-1938 ), thought to be the drafter of Pascendi, is also very good. cf. pp. 7ff.
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    I'm very impressed you know about Fr. Lemius' book, Geremia. 
    That is the definitive work that opens Pascendi up to every reader. 
    Without a guide like that, it's too cryptic for most educated readers.
    I know a priest who says, "You need a degree in dogmatic theology to understand Pascendi."
    Consequently, his parishioners don't bother trying. There's something wrong with that. 
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    Re: MODERNISM - Fr. William Jenkins teaches Pascendi Dominici Gregis, #1
    « Reply #6 on: October 15, 2018, 06:24:05 PM »
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    I'm very impressed you know about Fr. Lemius' book, Geremia.
    That is the definitive work that opens Pascendi up to every reader.
    Without a guide like that, it's too cryptic for most educated readers.
    I know a priest who says, "You need a degree in dogmatic theology to understand Pascendi."
    Consequently, his parishioners don't bother trying. There's something wrong with that.
    Modernism is complex because its nonsense, whereas Aristotelian-Thomistic metaphysics is very commonsense.
    Pascendi does a good job trying to make sense of the Modernist nonsense, though.
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    Re: MODERNISM - Fr. William Jenkins teaches Pascendi Dominici Gregis, #1
    « Reply #7 on: October 15, 2018, 11:43:39 PM »
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  • Modernism is complex because it's nonsense, whereas Aristotelian-Thomistic metaphysics is very commonsense.
    Pascendi does a good job trying to make sense of the Modernist nonsense, though.
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    It's interesting to me you say it's believed that Fr. Lemius drafted the encyclical. Do you have a source for that opinion?
    Details like that tend to get lost over time so we ought to try to keep track of them, where possible.
    Sometimes it's just a priest speaking to someone and recalling the conversation years later, when nobody bothers to write it down.
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    Re: MODERNISM - Fr. William Jenkins teaches Pascendi Dominici Gregis, #1
    « Reply #8 on: October 15, 2018, 11:47:30 PM »
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  • He did a good job explaining agnosticism, phenomenalism, and how the Modernists deny Rom. 1:20. They, like St. Paul said of the Romans, have no excuse for being atheist.

    The Catechism of Modernism by Fr. Jean Baptiste Lemius (1851-1938 ), thought to be the drafter of Pascendi, is also very good. cf. pp. 7ff.
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    Recall that JPII was an avid adherent of phenomenology, which is closely related to phenomenalism.
    Brother Francis of the St. Benedict Center in Richmond was known to say "JPII was a philosopher";  to be clear, his "philosophy" was phenomenology.
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    Re: MODERNISM - Fr. William Jenkins teaches Pascendi Dominici Gregis, #1
    « Reply #9 on: October 16, 2018, 01:15:54 PM »
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  • It's interesting to me you say it's believed that Fr. Lemius drafted the encyclical.
    I think he's thought to have drafted it because he was the first to publish something on the encyclical after its promulgation.
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    Re: MODERNISM - Fr. William Jenkins teaches Pascendi Dominici Gregis, #1
    « Reply #10 on: October 16, 2018, 04:39:28 PM »
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  • I think he's thought to have drafted it because he was the first to publish something on the encyclical after its promulgation.
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    If you could find where or who thought that it would be helpful. Sometimes things are said and someone hears it and remembers it, but it doesn't get written down, then later, the speaker dies and nobody can recall whether the speaker ever identified his source. While the book, A Catechism on Modernism, was published fairly quickly after the encyclical emerged, would contribute to the supposition that Fr. Lemius had also been involved in the authorship of the encyclical, it's not as convincing as having someone who knows something about the encyclical's roots describe who the ghost author may have been, otherwise, it's speculation. Also, that the style of language in the Catechism is very similar to the encyclical tends to have the same effect. But it could be challenging to distinguish the styles of the two works since the Catechism's contents is something like 20% direct quotes from the encyclical, so a casual reading of it would tend to lose track of one style versus the other; the two styles (if there indeed ARE two styles) might seem to merge together in the reading. For me, it was all I could do to keep up with the content, without cross-analyzing the manner of sentence structure.
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    What you say surprises me nonetheless, since I had not heard anyone else say that in the past. I have, however, heard otherwise.
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    If anyone is trying to think of an unforgettable Christmas present for someone special, if the recipient is open to philosophical works and has at least some appreciation for Catholic books, it seems to me you could hardly do better than a copy of Fr. Lemius' book. Last I saw it was only $10.
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    Re: MODERNISM - Fr. William Jenkins teaches Pascendi Dominici Gregis, #1
    « Reply #11 on: October 16, 2018, 04:54:11 PM »
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  • Wikipedia says Lemis drafted it. As source they give:

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    Darrell Jodock, Catholicism Contending With Modernity page 20, and page 110, note 66 (Cambridge University Press, 2000). ISBN 0-521-77071-8
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    Click the link in the quote.

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    Re: MODERNISM - Fr. William Jenkins teaches Pascendi Dominici Gregis, #1
    « Reply #12 on: October 16, 2018, 04:54:38 PM »
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  • If you could find where or who thought that it would be helpful.
    From A Variety of Catholic Modernists pp. 17:
    Quote from: Alec Vidler
    Of course the full truth will not be known until the Vatican Archives are opened, but it can now be said with confidence that the principal author of the encyclical, i.e. of the doctrinal part, was Father Joseph Lemius (1860-1923), an Oblate of Mary Immaculate, an able theologian who held various posts in the Curia at Rome.
    Read pp. 17-18 for why Alec Vidler thinks this.
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    Re: MODERNISM - Fr. William Jenkins teaches Pascendi Dominici Gregis, #1
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    Thanks, guys. I knew Fr. Nicholas Gruner and he told me he had found reason to think (but I never managed to find out what the reason was! now it's too late) that Cardinal Merry del Val, Pope St. Pius X's Secretary of State, wrote Pascendi, and that the pope read it and approved it by signing his name to it, as if he himself had been the author. But that was not unusual, as many popes had done the same thing with important encyclicals and other docuмents. He said that Pius IX most likely used the scholarly assistance of at least one other cleric in drafting the Syllabus of Errors, for example, as well as the infallible decree on the Immaculate Conception. 
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    Now I wonder if perhaps del Val and Lemius had cooperated in a joint effort to compose Pascendi. Cardinal del Val had a lot of enemies, so it would be no surprise that his name is ignored in the approbation. Fr. Gruner told me he was sure that Cardinal Merry del Val was a saint. So who do we see canonized instead? Never mind!! 
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    Re: MODERNISM - Fr. William Jenkins teaches Pascendi Dominici Gregis, #1
    « Reply #14 on: October 18, 2018, 01:18:13 AM »
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  • Wikipedia says Lemis drafted it. As source they give:
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    Click the link in the quote.
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    The linked book is:
    Catholicism Contending with Modernity: Roman Catholic Modernism and Anti-Modernism in Historical Context.
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    "Roman Catholic Modernism and Anti-Modernism," it says. Since when is Modernism Roman Catholic?!?
    Something like Yin and Yang, Democrats vs. Republicans, or Good Cop vs. Bad Cop; Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde?
    Or should we say Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum -- the publisher is Cambridge University Press, after all.
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    What they have is limited and sketchy, but since it's a preview of a copyrighted book, some pages are not accessible.
    Barnes & Noble offers a copy at $107 and up. Published in AD 2000, multiple authors (non-Catholics?), edited by Darrell Jodock.
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    The book seems to treat Modernism as a laboratory specimen with a pluralist overview, of some in favor of it, some opposed.
    One reference cited is a book written by Maurice Blondel, 1884 and 1893, reprinted in Paris, 1995 (102 years later!).
    Title = Blondel, Action: Essay on a Critique of Life and a Science of Practice (certainly something Fr. Stanley Jaki would have read and admired).
    Maurice Blondel was one of the prominent Modernists against whom Pius X, et. al., spent their lifetimes doing battle.
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    Fr. William Jenkins is very clear in his description of the Modernist as explained in Pascendi.
    He says the one Modernist appears in 7 roles: Philosopher, Believer, Theologian, Historian, Critic, Apologist, Reformer.
    Curiously, each of these functions are found in the works referenced in this 2000 compilation.
    I'd like to know what Fr. Jenkins thinks of the linked book, Catholicism Contending?
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