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    [NOTE: Imagine what chaos will happen without any police. How long will it take before the U.N. troops have to be imported to restore order? It is clear that we are witnessing a Communist revolution, they are no longer satisfied with their soft communisms which they installed over the years, now they want full control]

    Minneapolis City Council members look to disband the police department as schools and other city agencies cut ties with police



    Ten days after the police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis, Minnesota, several members of the Minneapolis City Council are seeking to get rid of the police department — permanently.

    Ward 3 Councilmember Steve Fletcher announced the effort on social media, saying that he and other members of the council are looking to "disband" the Minneapolis Police Department, calling it "ungovernable" and "irredeemably beyond reform." Without any historical precedent, there's no easy path forward, he said.
    "Several of us on the council are working on finding out what it would take to disband the MPD and start fresh with a community-oriented, non-violent public safety and outreach capacity," Fletcher tweeted.

    The effort, which is without precedent in American history, comes as protests surge nationwide and around the world. The demonstrations, some of which have turned destructive, have mainstreamed some typically fringe demands, like defunding the police or abolishing them wholesale.

    "We can send a city response that makes situations better. We can resolve confusion over a $20 grocery transaction without drawing a weapon, or pulling out handcuffs," Fletcher said.

    "The whole world is watching, and we can declare policing as we know it a thing of the past, and create a compassionate, non-violent future," he added. "It will be hard. But so is managing a dysfunctional relationship with an unaccountable armed force in our city."

    The MPD has a history of racist police violence: Its officers use force against black denizens seven times more frequently than against white ones, the New York Times reported.

    Derek Chauvin, who killed Floyd, was involved in three shootings and was the subject of numerous internal investigations over his 19-year career. Tao Thou, the officer who stood guard as Chauvin knelt on Floyd's neck, settled an excessive-use-of-force lawsuit out of court in 2018. 

    With the MPD in the spotlight, several city agencies have severed ties with the police force

    On Wednesday, the Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board unanimously voted to end its contract with the MPD, precluding the police from guarding park events and preventing park police from responding to non-violent police calls.

    "Recent actions by the Minneapolis Police Department in the alleged murder of George Floyd while in police custody have severely undermined community trust in, and sense of safety around, Minneapolis Police," the Board resolution said.
    © J.D. Duggan Protesters at a Target in Minneapolis. J.D. Duggan

    On Tuesday, Minneapolis Public Schools terminated its $1.1 million contract with the police department, which staffs citywide schools with "school resource officers," according to Buzzfeed News. Agency officials voted unanimously in favor of termination.

    "This vote is about justice," Siad Ali, director of the school board, said during on Tuesday. "It's about time we end this contract with the Minneapolis police. They do not meet our values, and therefore, we will have no business with this organization."

    On May 27, two days after the police killing of Floyd, the University of Minnesota cut ties with the police department. 

    The university will "no longer contract with the Minneapolis Police Department for additional law enforcement support need for large events, such as football games, concerts, and ceremonies," President Joan Gabel said in a statement. 

    The university also stopped using the MPD for other events where "specialized [police] services are needed," like "K-9 Explosive detection units," Gabel said.

    Police reform is not up to the task of keeping Americans safe, said Alex Vitale, a sociologist at Brooklyn College and author of "The End of Policing." Instead, police departments must be defunded and eventually abolished, he said.

    "It's time instead to have a complete rethink about why we're using police in the United States to solve every problem under the sun," Vitale told Insider. "When you turn a problem over to the police, it's going to be done through the lens of violence and intimidation."

    The MPD and the Minneapolis City Council did not immediately respond to Insider's requests for comment.


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    Re: Minneapolis City Council members look to disband the police
    « Reply #1 on: June 04, 2020, 01:28:49 PM »
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  • The idea is no local police, but to institute a national police.  Disaster.
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    Re: Minneapolis City Council members look to disband the police
    « Reply #2 on: June 04, 2020, 02:49:03 PM »
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    [NOTE: Imagine what chaos will happen without any police. How long will it take before the U.N. troops have to be imported to restore order? It is clear that we are witnessing a Communist revolution, they are no longer satisfied with their soft communisms which they installed over the years, now they want full control]

    Minneapolis City Council members look to disband the police department as schools and other city agencies cut ties with police



    Ten days after the police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis, Minnesota, several members of the Minneapolis City Council are seeking to get rid of the police department — permanently.

    Ward 3 Councilmember Steve Fletcher announced the effort on social media, saying that he and other members of the council are looking to "disband" the Minneapolis Police Department, calling it "ungovernable" and "irredeemably beyond reform." Without any historical precedent, there's no easy path forward, he said.
    "Several of us on the council are working on finding out what it would take to disband the MPD and start fresh with a community-oriented, non-violent public safety and outreach capacity," Fletcher tweeted.

    The effort, which is without precedent in American history, comes as protests surge nationwide and around the world. The demonstrations, some of which have turned destructive, have mainstreamed some typically fringe demands, like defunding the police or abolishing them wholesale.

    "We can send a city response that makes situations better. We can resolve confusion over a $20 grocery transaction without drawing a weapon, or pulling out handcuffs," Fletcher said.

    "The whole world is watching, and we can declare policing as we know it a thing of the past, and create a compassionate, non-violent future," he added. "It will be hard. But so is managing a dysfunctional relationship with an unaccountable armed force in our city."

    The MPD has a history of racist police violence: Its officers use force against black denizens seven times more frequently than against white ones, the New York Times reported.

    Derek Chauvin, who killed Floyd, was involved in three shootings and was the subject of numerous internal investigations over his 19-year career. Tao Thou, the officer who stood guard as Chauvin knelt on Floyd's neck, settled an excessive-use-of-force lawsuit out of court in 2018.

    With the MPD in the spotlight, several city agencies have severed ties with the police force

    On Wednesday, the Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board unanimously voted to end its contract with the MPD, precluding the police from guarding park events and preventing park police from responding to non-violent police calls.

    "Recent actions by the Minneapolis Police Department in the alleged murder of George Floyd while in police custody have severely undermined community trust in, and sense of safety around, Minneapolis Police," the Board resolution said.
    © J.D. Duggan Protesters at a Target in Minneapolis. J.D. Duggan

    On Tuesday, Minneapolis Public Schools terminated its $1.1 million contract with the police department, which staffs citywide schools with "school resource officers," according to Buzzfeed News. Agency officials voted unanimously in favor of termination.

    "This vote is about justice," Siad Ali, director of the school board, said during on Tuesday. "It's about time we end this contract with the Minneapolis police. They do not meet our values, and therefore, we will have no business with this organization."

    On May 27, two days after the police killing of Floyd, the University of Minnesota cut ties with the police department.

    The university will "no longer contract with the Minneapolis Police Department for additional law enforcement support need for large events, such as football games, concerts, and ceremonies," President Joan Gabel said in a statement.

    The university also stopped using the MPD for other events where "specialized [police] services are needed," like "K-9 Explosive detection units," Gabel said.

    Police reform is not up to the task of keeping Americans safe, said Alex Vitale, a sociologist at Brooklyn College and author of "The End of Policing." Instead, police departments must be defunded and eventually abolished, he said.

    "It's time instead to have a complete rethink about why we're using police in the United States to solve every problem under the sun," Vitale told Insider. "When you turn a problem over to the police, it's going to be done through the lens of violence and intimidation."

    The MPD and the Minneapolis City Council did not immediately respond to Insider's requests for comment.
    Community activists are on the move right now requesting that states monitor the local police with a "civilian review board". This has been a goal of the communists in the USA since the 60's. We have to support our local police-- and keep them independent.  All of our security and lives depends on this. 

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    Re: Minneapolis City Council members look to disband the police
    « Reply #3 on: June 05, 2020, 01:31:44 AM »
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    It was not Trump who divided America in this racial crisis. The nation was united in revulsion at the criminal cruelty that led to George Floyd’s death… What divided America were the methods and means protesters began using in the first hours of the Minneapolis riot — the attacks on cops with bottles, bricks and Molotov cocktails.
    In his statement to The Atlantic magazine, former Defense Secretary General James Mattis says of the events of the last 10 days that have shaken the nation as it has not been shaken since 1968:
    “We must not be distracted by a small number of lawbreakers.”
    Is “a small number of lawbreakers” an apt description of wilding mobs who have showered cops with bottles, bricks and rocks in 40 cities, looted stores in the hundreds, torched police cars, and injured dozens of Secret Service personnel defending the White House?
    Is “a small number of lawbreakers” the way a patriot would describe anti-American anarchists who desecrated the Lincoln Memorial, the World War II Memorial on the Mall and the Korean War Memorial and tried to burn down the Church of the Presidents in Lafayette Square?
    Was the sacking of Georgetown, Rodeo Drive in LA, 5th Avenue in New York and 40 city centers, the work of a few “lawbreakers”?
    Is that a good description of the people who gravely wounded that cop in Las Vegas and shot four cops and murdered that retired black police chief in St. Louis?
    The protesters, says Mattis, are “rightly demanding … Equal Justice Under Law.” This is a “wholesome and unifying demand — one that all of us should be able to get behind.”
    But what does the general think of the methods and means the “protesters” have used — the massive civil disobedience, the blocking of streets, the vilification of police, the contempt for curfews. What does the general think of protesters who provide moral cover for ιnѕυrrєcтισn?
    “Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people,” says Mattis. Trump “doesn’t even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us.”
    But it was not Trump who divided America in this racial crisis.
    The nation was united in revulsion at the criminal cruelty that led to George Floyd’s death. The nation was united in backing an enraged people’s right to protest that atrocity.
    What divided America were the methods and means protesters began using in the first hours of the Minneapolis riot — the attacks on cops with bottles, bricks and Molotov cocktails.
    In Mattis’ statement, one finds not a word of sympathy or support for the police bearing the brunt of mob brutality for defending the communities they serve, while defending the constitutional right of the protesters to curse them as racist and rogue cops.
    “Keeping public order rests with civilian state and local leaders who best understand their communities and are answerable to them,” not to the military, says the general.
    Correct. But what happens when mobs run wild to where a governor of New York is denouncing the NYPD for failing to protect the city from anarchy and is threatening to replace the mayor for failing to put down the ιnѕυrrєcтισn.
    In July 1967, the 82nd Airborne was sent into Detroit to put down the riot. In 1968, there were federal troops in D.C. to stop the rioting in the wake of Dr. King’s assassination. In the violent protests of the Nixon era, U.S. airborne troops were brought into the basement of the Executive Office Building.
    The general quotes James Madison: “America united with a handful of troops, or without a single solider exhibits a more forbidding posture to foreign invaders than an America disunited.”
    And how, General, did that work out for Madison when the “foreign invaders” arrived in Maryland in August 1814, marched up Bladensburg Road, and burned the Capitol and White House and Alexandria, while “Little Jimmy” fled out the Brookville Road?
    If memory serves, it was Gen. Andrew Jackson and the troops he pulled together for the Battle of New Orleans who defeated the British and saved the Union.
    “Society cannot exist,” wrote Edmund Burke, “unless a controlling power upon will and appetite be placed somewhere; and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without.
    “It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters.”
    That is where we are now. Society and civilization are on the line.
    If mob tactics are now how we change laws and alter public policy, the democratic republic is dead and we have gone full Third World.
    Some of us do not believe America is a racist society or that the nation’s police, numbering a million men and women, are shot through with anti-black racism.
    Some of us believe the police are the last line of defense we have against that “small number of lawbreakers” Mattis tells us are no problem.
    Did the general actually produce this pile of mush that reads like something out of Ramsey Clark in the 1960s?
    My guess: Mattis, an obedient servant of President Trump for two years, has been persuaded that the wind is blowing the other way and his “place in history” demands that he get himself on the correct side.
    The general has just defected to the resistance.

    https://buchanan.org/blog/liberal-mush-from-the-mad-dog-138648#more-138648
    "In His wisdom," says St. Gregory, "almighty God preferred rather to bring good out of evil than never allow evil to occur."