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Re: Microchip COVID vaccine passport in your hand
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2021, 09:05:34 PM »
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  • Someone sent me an e-mail, entitled "The Mark", with nothing but this link:

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/swedish-biohacker-promotes-implanted-microchip-covid-passports-in-your-hands/?utm_source=top_news&utm_campaign=usa

    To reply to the sender of the above email:

    With all due respect, I still have what I believe to be a good question: Where is the Antichrist -- the Beast? What is his name, and where is he right now?
    I can't help but notice you've dropped "of the Beast" from the famous phrase "Mark of the Beast" and are just calling it "the Mark" now?

    Is that to draw attention away from the obvious weakpoint in this argument -- namely, that the Antichrist or Beast has NOT manifested himself yet?

    I have never heard ANY prophecy that the Mark of the Beast will precede the Antichrist. The very idea is ludicrous. The whole thing is supposed to be a sign of capitulation, of submission, to the Beast (the Antichrist) and his rule. How could he institute such a system before his coming?

    That would be like the Catholic Church (New Testament) forming almost completely, with Sacraments and all, before Our Lord's manifestation at age 30.

    Again, I wouldn't touch this "jab" with a 100 foot pole, and I make no distinction between being shot with a gun, and being "shot" against my will with this poison jab. And I will react (in self defense) accordingly.

    But to say it's the literal Mark of the Beast, on your forehead or hand, as foretold in Scripture? That's a bit of a stretch, to say the least.

    By the way, there have been fearmongers and "scares" like the above article ever since the 1970's.  I've been in Tradition a *long* time, and I've heard it all. Alarmists have been wrong about the imminent Antichrist or Mark of the Beast every single decade since Vatican II pretty much. There's Maitreya (I read about him on the back of a book cover published in the 70's), UPC codes all have 6-6-6 on them, there is some government system called The Beast, etc. That was all before 1995.

    I haven't seen any widespread, or mainstream push to implement ANYTHING COVID-related in the hand or forehead -- the fearmongering article by LifeSiteNews notwithstanding. Mainstream word on the street, and in the Mainstream Media is that the coming vaccine passport(s) will take the form of a phone app. It's that simple. Most people aren't game for an invasive install of a chip in their hand. We're not there yet.
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    Re: Microchip COVID vaccine passport in your hand
    « Reply #2 on: November 30, 2021, 09:12:39 PM »
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  • P.S. Once again, we have recourse to Protestant heretics. If they are against something, it's because SCRIPTURE TELLS THEM SO. They think Scripture is a user manual for life in 2021. No Tradition or Magisterium needed. Ludicrous!

    Protestants are against abortion because "Thou Shalt Not Kill"

    Some fundie Protestants are against the jab because Scripture warns against the Antichrist and the Mark of the Beast. If it's not the Mark, they would probably take it out of "prudence" because if Scripture doesn't cover it, you're just supposed to do the "normal" thing according to those in your time period. At the very least, it's "up to you" if Scripture doesn't mention it. A complete toss-up.

    Prots twist Scripture to be the be-all and end-all source of approval or condemnation of everything -- even modern creations like Rock music. It's insane.

    Trying to attack Rock music, Catholics would go into discussions of the essence of music, objective goodness, beauty -- Prots would actually quote Scripture 100%. What would they quote? Oh, they don't have any REALLY good quotes -- they just twist a bunch of quotes and claim they fit their argument. I actually read a book like this. It really left an impression with me about the silliness of protestants. They had a lot of good material in the book about the "evil end" and early death of virtually EVERY famous rocker in the 50's, 60's and 70's. Evils of their lifestyle, their own words, etc. THOSE would be the arguments I'd use.
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    Re: Microchip COVID vaccine passport in your hand
    « Reply #3 on: November 30, 2021, 09:29:34 PM »
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  • Yeah, it's definitely not the Mark.

    Here's what Fr. Berry has to say about the Mark of the Beast:

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    16.  The followers of Antichrist will be marked with a character in imitation of the sign that St. John saw upon the foreheads of the servants of God.  This indicates that Antichrist and his prophet will introduce ceremonies to imitate the Sacraments of the Church. In fact there will be a complete organization—a church of Satan set up in opposition to the Church of Christ. Satan will assume the part of God the Father; Antichrist will be honored as Saviour, and his prophet will usurp the role of Pope. Their ceremonies will counterfeit the Sacraments and their works of magic be heralded as miracles. A similar project was attempted in the fourth century when Julian the Apostate counterfeited Catholic worship with pagan ceremonies in honor of Mithras and Cybele. He established a priesthood and instituted ceremonies in imitation of Baptism and Confirmation.
    And Fr. Herman Kramer:


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    Verse 16

    All classes of people whom the doctrines, and signs of Antichrist will captivate and mislead are named in this verse. Those who will not accept the true faith shall then be at the mercy of error. Another idea is contained in this verse: Antichrist will abolish all class distinction and make his followers alone the elite. It points to something like communism. The educated and refined, the uneducated and rude will submit.
    The mark of distinction borne by antichristians will be a brand like that seared on the forehead of slaves in Roman limes. Those who are steeped in vice, who are enthusiastic about Antichrist and are stupefied by the marvels of his signs will proclaim themselves his slaves and have his stamp put on their foreheads. Others will go still farther and have their right hands dedicated to him becoming his soldiers. This alludes to the signing of the faithful in chapter VII. The foreheads of all Christians are signed in the sacraments, while the hands of the priest are also anointed. The False Prophet may institute secret rites, through which the followers of Antichrist will be advanced by degrees into the deeper mysticism of his cult. A sort of diabolical sacramental system would thus be instituted conferring the graces of Satan and consecrating people to the service of the Beast. They will bear this mark of disgrace openly and thus easily recognize one another and those who do not follow the Beast. The adorers of the Beast will worship the animate statue in awe and reverence. And in the spiritual darkness into which sin has led them they are convinced, because they wish to be, that Antichrist is God.
    All commentators who try to force this chapter as fulfilled in St. John’s time are constrained to admit that they are confronted with a fact prophesied and not fulfilled, for those provincials who conformed to the caesar-cult were not branded as here stated. Since the preceding part of this chapter only uses the Roman empire existing then as a model for the description of the empire and times of Antichrist, so do these last verses. The Apocalypse is a genuine prophecy and depicts future history, whether we hold verbal dictation or not, and is not a mere poetic embellishment of existing conditions. Those commentators who do not see the foretelling of real future events in this prophecy find no satisfactory explanation for anything contained in it.


    Neither speak of the Mark preceding the Antichrist, who is synonymous with the first Beast in both commentaries. It only arrives after the Antichrist as a sign of loyalty to him. The shot does not do this, although the technology is certainly there with luciferase.
    Fr. Berry's interpretation actually supports the idea of MHFM on the Novus Ordo rites being the Mark of the Beast (not that I really believe this myself).
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Microchip COVID vaccine passport in your hand
    « Reply #4 on: November 30, 2021, 09:33:05 PM »
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  • Prots twist Scripture to be the be-all and end-all source of approval or condemnation of everything -- even modern creations like Rock music. It's insane.

    Trying to attack Rock music, Catholics would go into discussions of the essence of music, objective goodness, beauty -- Prots would actually quote Scripture 100%. What would they quote? Oh, they don't have any REALLY good quotes -- they just twist a bunch of quotes and claim they fit their argument. I actually read a book like this. It really left an impression with me about the silliness of protestants. They had a lot of good material in the book about the "evil end" and early death of virtually EVERY famous rocker in the 50's, 60's and 70's. Evils of their lifestyle, their own words, etc. THOSE would be the arguments I'd use.
    Since we're on the subject, I personally warn against indulging in these kinds of music due to the simple effects it has on the appetites. I used to really be into the heavy stuff (black, death metal, etc) and it has a definite effect on your irascible appetites (anger). Every so often I listen to it out of weakness and find myself in a terrible mood the following day. Anecdotally, my obsession with these extreme forms of music led me to all sorts of blasphemy and scandal.

    So, there's definitely a deeper argument to be had on the effects of certain types of music and what that can lead people into.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]


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    Re: Microchip COVID vaccine passport in your hand
    « Reply #5 on: November 30, 2021, 09:34:21 PM »
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    Fr. Berry's interpretation actually supports the idea of MHFM on the Novus Ordo rites being the Mark of the Beast (not that I really believe this myself).
    Fr Berry also destroys the Diamonds' belief that JP2 was the antichrist.  :jester:  I can't believe they are still talking about it.  :facepalm:

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    Re: Microchip COVID vaccine passport in your hand
    « Reply #6 on: November 30, 2021, 09:39:27 PM »
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  • Fr Berry also destroys the Diamonds' belief that JP2 was the antichrist.  :jester:  I can't believe they are still talking about it.  :facepalm:
    I think what they point out is extremely interesting in its parallels, but claiming he was THE Antichrist just doesn't hold water. The simplest thing that refutes their whole argument is the consensus of various Fathers and theologians that Antichrist's reign will be 3.5 years, yet JPII reigned for 27 years. I firmly believe he was a TYPE of the Antichrist to come, but most certainly was not that Man of Sin.

    Secondly, while his blasphemies were horrible, not to mention the mass spiritual death he influenced with his heretical teachings; he did not embody the outward vice and ruthlessness that Antichrist will have.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Microchip COVID vaccine passport in your hand
    « Reply #7 on: November 30, 2021, 09:56:28 PM »
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  • Secondly, while his blasphemies were horrible, not to mention the mass spiritual death he influenced with his heretical teachings; he did not embody the outward vice and ruthlessness that Antichrist will have.

    This.

    In short, we have to distinguish between sinful/terrible/bad things to be rejected, and SPECIFIC evils like the Mark of the Beast. Just because you have a horrible blasphemer, doesn't mean you're looking at the Antichrist. We've had countless "types" of Antichrist up to the present day. Nevertheless, the Man of Sin is not yet here.
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    Re: Microchip COVID vaccine passport in your hand
    « Reply #8 on: November 30, 2021, 10:09:19 PM »
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  • This.

    In short, we have to distinguish between sinful/terrible/bad things to be rejected, and SPECIFIC evils like the Mark of the Beast. Just because you have a horrible blasphemer, doesn't mean you're looking at the Antichrist. We've had countless "types" of Antichrist up to the present day. Nevertheless, the Man of Sin is not yet here.
    Yes. And yet, will we have faith enough to recognize him when he does? I sure hope so.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Microchip COVID vaccine passport in your hand
    « Reply #9 on: December 01, 2021, 02:50:07 AM »
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  • Yes. And yet, will we have faith enough to recognize him when he does? I sure hope so.

    We don't need to make 50 false positive IDs over the years to assure ourselves we'll believe him when we see him -- or that we "still believe in" the Antichrist.

    I don't think there's going to be a lot of doubt when he appears. Kind of like the restoration of the Church -- it will be glaring and obvious that something has majorly changed. It will not be a subtle change.
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    Re: Microchip COVID vaccine passport in your hand
    « Reply #10 on: December 01, 2021, 05:18:59 AM »
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  • We don't need to make 50 false positive IDs over the years to assure ourselves we'll believe him when we see him -- or that we "still believe in" the Antichrist.

    I don't think there's going to be a lot of doubt when he appears. Kind of like the restoration of the Church -- it will be glaring and obvious that something has majorly changed. It will not be a subtle change.

    I don't have a firm view on this and I'm looking at all angles...

    but I wonder...

    Do you think it will be obvious?

    Why does Jesus say that even the elect will be deceived?
    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    « Reply #11 on: December 01, 2021, 08:19:13 AM »
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  • I don't have a firm view on this and I'm looking at all angles...

    but I wonder...

    Do you think it will be obvious?

    Why does Jesus say that even the elect will be deceived?
    Yes, He does [Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22]

    That's why I'm not at all convinced of the "oh, he will be easy to spot" argument, because it simply won't be true. The Man of Sin will do great signs and wonders in order to convince men that he is god, which is why a cult develops around him when he seats himself in the holy place. The Mark will come once he has thoroughly convinced most that he is god, it will be something people will take willingly to show their devotion, not something forced upon everyone like this shot.

    Those elect who have been deceived will only really wake up to it once the Two Witnesses come and start preaching against Antichrist.

    This is also why the Dimond argument that JPII is the Antichrist doesn't work, because while he has deceived many that he was the Pope, people did not believe him to be god or worship him as a god. He may have taught that man is god, but that's just basic Masonic doctrine being passed off as Catholicism. Further, they assert that his image is "worshipped", which undermines the Catholic teachings of latria versus dulia, since he was declared a "saint", not god.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Microchip COVID vaccine passport in your hand
    « Reply #12 on: December 01, 2021, 08:27:49 AM »
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  • I would like to add that this grand deception (and it will be GRAND) is why I think that the distasteful "Ressurectufix" so many NO's use is itself an icon of Antichrist, which is there to "soften them up" for his inevitable reveal. This is also why you see works like Signorelli's "The Preaching of the Antichrist" with the Man of Sin depicted as looking like traditional icons of Christ. He will ape Our Lord that closely.


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    Therefore, we as Catholics, need to be very careful that we are not deceived. As Our Lord will come in all power and majesty from the clouds [Matthew 24:30]. Anyone else who comes claiming to be the son of god in any other manner will be a deceiver.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Microchip COVID vaccine passport in your hand
    « Reply #13 on: December 01, 2021, 06:47:21 PM »
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  • Therefore, we as Catholics, need to be very careful that we are not deceived. As Our Lord will come in all power and majesty from the clouds [Matthew 24:30]. Anyone else who comes claiming to be the son of god in any other manner will be a deceiver.
    Yeah but just be sure (((they))) don't Project Blue Beam such a deception. Make sure the doctrines/dogmas are the same as taught by the real Jesus Christ and His Church before the Vatican II eclipse by Counterchurch.

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    Re: Microchip COVID vaccine passport in your hand
    « Reply #14 on: December 01, 2021, 07:09:11 PM »
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  • Yes, He does [Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22]

    That's why I'm not at all convinced of the "oh, he will be easy to spot" argument, because it simply won't be true. The Man of Sin will do great signs and wonders in order to convince men that he is god, which is why a cult develops around him when he seats himself in the holy place. The Mark will come once he has thoroughly convinced most that he is god, it will be something people will take willingly to show their devotion, not something forced upon everyone like this shot.

    Those elect who have been deceived will only really wake up to it once the Two Witnesses come and start preaching against Antichrist.

    I wouldn't be deceived, if I live through it. Know how I know? I haven't been deceived by the Novus Ordo religion, the COVID madness, etc.
    I have a good track record, by God's grace of course. But I also RESPONDED to those graces -- I chose the truth in each and every case, even if it meant grave inconvenience for me and my family.

    I am well aware of what devils can do, so if some guy is in the Temple in Jerusalem advertising he is god, and working wonders, I would recall Our Lord's words of warning and recognize the Antichrist for who he is. Our Lord warned us. When Our Lord returns, it will be with power and majesty, and he will appear as lightning, appearing in the East AND the West at once. Anyone deceived has to be "too busy" to read Scripture, Catholic books, and basically too busy for "religious stuff" in general. In short, they would have to be lukewarm with OTHER priorities in life. May God forbid that such would ever describe me.

    If you fell for the COVID scam, you WILL fall for the Antichrist. If you didn't fall for the COVID scam, you MIGHT NOT fall for the Antichrist.
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