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Offline ThatBritPapist

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MHFM/Diamonds Original Stance
« on: April 13, 2025, 08:00:07 AM »
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    • (NB: I am coming through lense of ignorance of not knowing much about the History of the MHFM, not here to be Anti Diamond or Pro Diamond)

    Were the Diamonds originally Sedevacantists? I believe I have a video of one of the Diamonds (Like I said not in the loop with this stuff) against Sedevacantism. I have linked the video down below.

    If there is a larger context to the video, do tell me!
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    Re: MHFM/Diamonds Original Stance
    « Reply #1 on: April 13, 2025, 10:05:21 AM »
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    • Correct.  They were not initially sedevacantists ... but that happens a lot, as it did for me.  You first just become a more generic "Traditional Catholic", but then start looking into Traditional Catholic ecclesiology and realize there's a problem.  In one of the classes Bishop Williamson gave, he admitted that the theologians between VI and VII largely supported the Major of the SV position.  If you look at +Lefebvre's statement more carefully also, you'll find that he "agrees with" it also.
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    Re: MHFM/Diamonds Original Stance
    « Reply #2 on: April 13, 2025, 12:11:27 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on April 13, 2025, 10:05:21 AM
    Correct.  They were not initially sedevacantists ... but that happens a lot, as it did for me.  You first just become a more generic "Traditional Catholic", but then start looking into Traditional Catholic ecclesiology and realize there's a problem.  In one of the classes Bishop Williamson gave, he admitted that the theologians between VI and VII largely supported the Major of the SV position.  If you look at +Lefebvre's statement more carefully also, you'll find that he "agrees with" it also.
    Thanks Ladis for the info!
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    Re: MHFM/Diamonds Original Stance
    « Reply #3 on: April 13, 2025, 02:35:38 PM »
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    • Quote from: ThatBritPapist on April 13, 2025, 12:11:27 PM
    Thanks Ladis for the info!

    You're welcome.
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    Re: MHFM/Diamonds Original Stance
    « Reply #4 on: April 14, 2025, 05:05:16 AM »
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    • Quote from: ThatBritPapist on April 13, 2025, 08:00:07 AM
    (NB: I am coming through lense of ignorance of not knowing much about the History of the MHFM, not here to be Anti Diamond or Pro Diamond)

    Were the Diamonds originally Sedevacantists? I believe I have a video of one of the Diamonds (Like I said not in the loop with this stuff) against Sedevacantism. I have linked the video down below.

    If there is a larger context to the video, do tell me!

    There are older youtubes out there from the 1990s of one of the DBs condemning sedeism. There is an excellent 50 minute youtube (below) with him interviewing Fr. Wathen wherein sedeism is discussed and explained - the DB fully understood that there is a certain malevolent, non-Catholic nature inherent in sedeism, apparently even before the interview. But then, as has happened and continues to happen to Catholics, including trad priests and bishops (who should know better), they start venturing into an area that they really should not venture into, and like the DB's, once they convince themselves of sedeism, they're usually hooked for life. Very often (not always) before they know it, their opinion becomes a dogmatic truth and no power on earth can change their thinking back.     

    Whenever the DBs catch wind of someone posting one of those videos, they threaten youtube or whatever host, to take it down, so it is hard to find these videos but they are out there.





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    Re: MHFM/Diamonds Original Stance
    « Reply #5 on: April 14, 2025, 07:05:59 AM »
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    • Quote from: Stubborn on April 14, 2025, 05:05:16 AM

    Whenever the DBs catch wind of someone posting one of those videos, they threaten youtube or whatever host, to take it down, so it is hard to find these videos but they are out there.


    Why would they? Good to archive anything tbh
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    Re: MHFM/Diamonds Original Stance
    « Reply #6 on: April 14, 2025, 08:19:11 AM »
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    • Quote from: ThatBritPapist on April 14, 2025, 07:05:59 AM
    Why would they? Good to archive anything tbh
    Good question.
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    Re: MHFM/Diamonds Original Stance
    « Reply #7 on: April 17, 2025, 08:37:36 PM »
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    • You might want to research their history.  Where did these guys come from?

    In this updated Fatima video, they put forth their 2006 thesis that the Fatima Consecration is complete.

    The Whole Truth about the Consecration and Conversion of Russia

    They didn't actually write this on their own. Do you think these two guys are putting out all this stuff?

    They have a team of media people.  Contact them and ask to let you visit MHFM and see how they respond.

    When you take a closer look at the Dimond's MHFM... it's a Marrano-mis-direction, media workshop.
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    Re: MHFM/Diamonds Original Stance
    « Reply #8 on: April 17, 2025, 10:41:13 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on April 17, 2025, 08:37:36 PM

    When you take a closer look at the Dimond's MHFM... it's a Marrano-mis-direction, media workshop.
    I don't believe that because the logic of their material always puts Catholic teaching first. I.e protestants destroyed, eastern orthodox rebuked etc
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    Re: MHFM/Diamonds Original Stance
    « Reply #9 on: April 23, 2025, 08:41:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: AnthonyPadua on April 17, 2025, 10:41:13 PM
    I don't believe that because the logic of their material always puts Catholic teaching first. I.e protestants destroyed, eastern orthodox rebuked etc

    A Marrano operation’s MO is to cut & paste things Catholic and then slip a diversionary sucker-punch in when your not looking.

    That was Malachi Martin MO and more recently, the admitted jew, Taylor Marshall does the same.

    “Oh, but it sounds so Catholic”. 

    The Dimonds have a very sorted history. They listen to trad feedback closely and modify their stances accordingly.

    They used to take the position that every priest & Sacrament is invalid. Fatima is finished and now, Trump’s assassination attempt was real.

    The devil is in their details. Don’t fall for their Kayfabe.
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