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Online Nadir

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Re: Mary died? Where did that story come from?
« Reply #30 on: August 20, 2017, 04:12:29 PM »
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  •  I give up. I'll say it one more time, and then I'm done:
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    Offline Last Tradhican

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    Re: Mary died? Where did that story come from?
    « Reply #31 on: August 20, 2017, 04:30:04 PM »
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  • I'm not saying I distrust Mary of Agreda but the best source for what happened to Our Lady is Tradition (i.e. What the Church Fathers taught, who were the direct successors of the Apostles).
    Mary of Agreda's book does not conflict with tradition. Read the book, the part about her death is very detailed, a quick read, like one chapter long, 20 pages maybe. She never aged past 33 years of age, and all the apostles were called to bid her farewell, she was in perfect condition when she "died" at her request, like her son had died. Then she passed the the other side. One could call it a "dormition", I could understand why, as she chose to die rather than just be assumed alive to heaven. It was her choice, she layed down and died. It was her choice.
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    Offline Nooseph Polten

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    Re: Mary died? Where did that story come from?
    « Reply #32 on: August 20, 2017, 07:49:20 PM »
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  • I haven't said one single word against any Church tradition whatsoever. The story was cooked up in the sixth century by a man who denied the perpetual sinlessness of the Mother of God. That' doesn't constitute "Tradition"  at all. If anything, I'm UPHOLDING the traditional teaching of the Church that those who were born without Original Sin were not under the curse of death. Nor is anyone who never commits any sin worthy of death. What "tradition" are you upholding? There's absolutely NOTHING "Traditional" about your position at all. In fact, it was founded on a serious theological error (heresy by today's standards).
    Well then I guess St. Alphonsus, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, St. Ephrem, and Pope Hadrian I, as well as most theologians, were heretics then... ::)
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    Re: Mary died? Where did that story come from?
    « Reply #33 on: August 20, 2017, 07:51:58 PM »
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