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Offline Mathieu

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« on: May 03, 2012, 07:26:29 AM »
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  • I just came across this and thought others might appreciate it.  It is from the finale of the opera, "Dialogues of the Carmelites" by Poulenc and concerns the 16 Carmelite martyrs of Compiègne.  I found it quite gripping - it seems relevant to our time...





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    « Reply #1 on: May 03, 2012, 11:09:02 AM »
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  • I saw Dialogues years & years ago without first really knowing the background.  I only went because it was about Carmelites.  I'd love to see it again.  We need to be reminded now about all the sacrifices that people were willing to do then.
    "I will lead her into solitude and there I will speak to her heart.  Osee 2:14


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    « Reply #2 on: May 05, 2012, 03:35:23 PM »
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  • I wonder if persecutions against traditional Catholics will become such that we would be called to the same martyrdom as they were.

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    « Reply #3 on: May 05, 2012, 04:27:40 PM »
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  • Quote from: Mathieu
    I wonder if persecutions against traditional Catholics will become such that we would be called to the same martyrdom as they were.


    The punishment for not following the Noahide Law is beheading.
    Many more will be executed than just Traditional Catholics.
    Ignorance of the law is no excuse. Read here:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noahide_laws

    The US congress signed a docuмent accepting the Noahide laws when they, at the behest of Jєωs in congress, gave Rabbi Schneerson a Congressional medal of honor, posthumously.

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    1st Session
    H. J. RES. 104
    JOINT RESOLUTION
     To designate March 26, 1991, as `Education Day, U.S.A.'.
    HJ 104 EH
     102nd CONGRESS
     1st Session
    H. J. RES. 104

    JOINT RESOLUTION
     To designate March 26, 1991, as `Education Day, U.S.A.'.

    Whereas Congress recognizes the historical tradition of ethical values and principles which are the basis of civilized society and upon which our great Nation was founded;

    Whereas these ethical values and principles have been the bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization, when they were known as the Seven Noahide Laws;
    Whereas without these ethical values and principles the edifice of civilization stands in serious peril of returning to chaos;

    Whereas society is profoundly concerned with the recent weakening of these principles that has resulted in crises that beleaguer and threaten the fabric of civilized society;

    Whereas the justified preoccupation with these crises must not let the citizens of this Nation lose sight of their responsibility to transmit these historical ethical values from our distinguished past to the generations of the future;

    Whereas the Lubavitch movement has fostered and promoted these ethical values and principles throughout the world;

    Whereas Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, leader of the Lubavitch movement, is universally respected and revered and his eighty-ninth birthday falls on March 26, 1991;

    Whereas in tribute to this great spiritual leader, `the rebbe,' this, his ninetieth year will be seen as one of `education and giving,' the year in which we turn to education and charity to return the world to the moral and ethical values contained in the Seven Noahide Laws; and

    Whereas this will be reflected in an international scroll of honor signed by the President of the United States and other heads of state: Now, therefore, be it
    Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That March 26, 1991, the start of the ninetieth year of Rabbi Menachem Schneerson, leader of the worldwide Lubavitch movement, is designated as `Education Day, U.S.A.'. The President is requested to issue a proclamation calling upon the people of the United States to observe such day with appropriate ceremonies and activities.

    Passed the House of Representatives March 5, 1991.
    Attest:
    Clerk.
    END

    http://www.takebackourrights.org/docs/Christians-full%20page.html


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menachem_Mendel_Schneerson

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    « Reply #4 on: May 05, 2012, 09:11:35 PM »
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  • I heard recently that there are guillotines in this country as well - is that true?


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    « Reply #5 on: May 05, 2012, 11:23:59 PM »
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  • Quote from: Mathieu
    I heard recently that there are guillotines in this country as well - is that true?


    I don't know.

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    Georgia House of Representatives - 1995/1996 Sessions
    HB 1274 - Death penalty; guillotine provisions
    Code Sections - 17-10-38/ 17-10-44
    A BILL TO BE ENTITLED AN ACT

      1- 1  To amend Article 2 of Chapter 10 of Title 17 of the Official
      1- 2  Code of Georgia Annotated, relating to the death penalty
      1- 3  generally, so as to provide a statement of legislative
      1- 4  policy; to provide for death by guillotine; to provide for
      1- 5  applicability; to repeal conflicting laws; and for other
      1- 6  purposes.

        SECTION 1.

      1- 8  The General Assembly finds that while prisoners condemned to
      1- 9  death may wish to donate one or more of their organs for
      1-10  transplant, any such desire is thwarted by the fact that
      1-11  electrocution makes all such organs unsuitable for
      1-12  transplant. The intent of the General Assembly in enacting
      1-13  this legislation is to provide for a method of execution
      1-14  which is compatible with the donation of organs by a
      1-15  condemned prisoner.

    This did not pass to my knowledge.
    http://www1.legis.ga.gov/legis/1995_96/leg/fulltext/hb1274.htm

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    SANTORUM: They are taking faith and crushing it. Why? Why? When you marginalize faith in America, when you remove the pillar of God-given rights, then what’s left is the French Revolution. What’s left is the government that gives you right, what’s left are no unalienable rights, what’s left is a government that will tell you who you are, what you’ll do and when you’ll do it. What’s left in France became the guillotine. Ladies and gentlemen, we’re a long way from that, but if we do and follow the path of President Obama and his overt hostility to faith in America, then we are headed down that road.


    I would say that if someone is making money selling them, like someone (Chertoff) made money selling body scanners for airports then there probably are.
    http://www.cknife.com/cut_type/guillotine-blades.asp

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    « Reply #6 on: May 06, 2012, 06:34:18 PM »
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  • It reminds me of Apocalypse 20:4 -

    And I saw seats. And they sat upon them: and judgment was given unto them. And the souls of them that were beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God and who had not adored the beast nor his image nor received his character on their foreheads or in their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.